Dawnguard allies hostile : V

» Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:27 pm

I have an issue with Dawnguard allies turning hostile. First it happened with Dexion, who suddenly attacked my char and/or Serana after exiting the dungeon you save him from. I thought it might be glitching - and sure enough it worked fine when redoing the dungeon from an earlier save. But now Florentius is hostile when rescuing him, which basically makes it impossible to continue. I thought it might be caused by Serana somehow, but redoing that section without her, he still attacks my char. Anyone who has an idea what might cause it? I must have played Dawnguard five or six times now and have not had issues like this before. Also, nothing seems to alter Florentius when checking him with TES5Edit. Here's my current load order:

Active Mod Files:

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» Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:12 pm

Have you checked/waited to make sure you currently have zero bounty in all holds?

» Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:40 am

Just checked and she has 0 bounty. In fact, she hasn't had any bounty at all during the play through. My chars are annoyingly law abiding.

EDIT: My suspicion goes to Duel Combat and/or Combat Remastered as they are new to this play through of the Dawnguard quest line. Will check how it works w/o them.

EDIT 2: No, that wasn't it. He's still hostile without both Duel Combat and Combat Remastered. It's not ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp either.

» Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:57 pm

OK, tinkering around trying to fix this, I noticed that the esp's from the unofficial patches are loading before esm's. Weird, I thought that all esm's always loads before the esp's:

00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0a]

03 Dawnguard.esm

04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0b]

05 HearthFires.esm

06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0]

07 Dragonborn.esm

08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0]

09 ApachiiHair.esm

0A ApachiiHairFemales.esm

0B RaceCompatibility.esm

Is this normal? I always let BOSS manage the load order so I haven't even noticed it before.

And something is up with BOSS. Loading Wrye Bash for Skyrim and launching BOSS from it - BOSS sorts Fallout 3! Completely weird.

» Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:44 pm

The Unofficial Patches from version 2.0.0 onwards are false flagged as esm, thus the "odd" load order.

» Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:21 pm

Ah, that explains it. Thanks.

» Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:37 pm

Had this problem myself it's when you deactivate the forcefield and/or attack the dead Imperial before he's been reanimated. If you bring up the console and click the field and just disable it he won't turn hostile and you can continue the quest as normal. The quest marker will still be there but one you complete the following part of the quest it will disappear.