Dead Money = Waste Of Money

Post » Mon May 03, 2010 9:32 am

How that is computable??


Bioware is miles better than Bethesda
No
They never let me down in a story
http://gza.gameriot.com/content/images/orig_320200_1_1257581825.png Its the same damn story BW cant write interesting, only rehash the same thing.
The characters too, and Bethesda improved things, look ar skyrim, refined, Look at mass effct 2 removed.

Then again

Dead Money wasn supposed to be the "average shooter like some people sadly want and demands"

Its about puzzle and the great writting

Something common of Chris Avellone

I bought the DLC not for the Combat

But for the writting and the puzzles

If I want Shooter again


Doom is better
Cs is better
Wolf is better
Quake is better


bold.
You are entitled to your opinion as I am entitled to mine.
1.Bioware dosent make RPG's anymore, the DA2 demo was a JRPG with some cutscenes and boring conversations
2.I find Biowares take on the whole "romances" fiasco to be REALLY stupid, give someone a gift and let them talk your ear of.
3.it's fan base is the worst I have seen ever, and I mean EVER, they are the biggest bunch of svck-ups ever to crawl out of anything, they call any form of criticism a troll and would gladly pay for a romance DLC if Bioware made one.
seriously I don't see how anyone can enjoy those games anymore, they stopped being good at KOTOR, afterwards they just broke out into sad romances.
4.Almost everything in their games caters to the romanced obsessed fraction
5.Most annoying voice actors ever, Tali is like sandpaper to my ears and lelienna is just terrible.

2. ME2 was a shooter, ruined it for me.
3. Agreed, ME2 wasnt an rpg, so what if I can punch a reporter or talk nicely, I have to go through the sae chest high wall shooting to do it, the dialouge dosent make it an RPG, its gameplay is a shooter, its a gears clone. Say that on the BW forums and get flamed, how dare you criticise something that passes itself of as something it isnt, how dare you point out flaws, how dare you criticise the devs handleing of problems.
4. Agreed, romances are shallow, dont even get me started on the terrible tali one.
5. I liked her accent (Talis) ... Halo on the other hand.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:12 pm

LOL are you dead serous(lol i said dead as in dead money...)And FNV isnt expensive?? you might want to think that through. Its all optional to buy the add on's just like on here. What do you mean by the "formula" hasnt changed.

I got Dead Money for 30 bucks on the Steam sale.
COD MW2 is still 60 bucks and it it over 2 years old.
And 10 bucks for a Fallout solid DLC is a great deal.
I'm not paying 60 bucks for a generic FPS (COD) then another 15-45 dollars for more mapppacks.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 11:40 pm

bold.

2. ME2 was a shooter, ruined it for me.
3. Agreed, ME2 wasnt an rpg, so what if I can punch a reporter or talk nicely, I have to go through the sae chest high wall shooting to do it, the dialouge dosent make it an RPG, its gameplay is a shooter, its a gears clone. Say that on the BW forums and get flamed, how dare you criticise something that passes itself of as something it isnt, how dare you point out flaws, how dare you criticise the devs handleing of problems.
4. Agreed, romances are shallow, dont even get me started on the terrible tali one.
5. I liked her accent (Talis) ... Halo on the other hand.


Im aware of that "Cliche chart", but I dont care, I still like what they re doing, with the exception of ME2, who was pure shooter for the sake of shooter devoted fans,

I like their story even if they are only rehashing, they re still interesting and for what I see, DA2 looks interesting for me at least

IMO, the last good RPG Bethesda game was Morrowind




FWIW I thought this add-on was pretty terrible. The story/dialogue might have been OK but I was that bored by the gameplay that I wasn't paying much attention by the end.

I like Fallout for the exploration, non-linear progression and immersion. This add-on was linear, through a drab and forgettable location, and added instant death mechanics. Sorry, but there's a couple of bits in the end zone that devolve to dieing and reloading, and anyone who argues otherwise is [censored]ting. Add to that the traps, unkillable enemies.. meh. I get they were tring to do survival horror, but the point with those games is the suspense of what's round the next corner - not just trying to piss the player off through cheap death mechanics.



Thats the whole purpose of the DLC (dont like that is the only Linear DLC, Point Lookout was the only with good exploration)
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 1:10 pm

But Fallout isn't all about exploring the environment, it is always about exploring the story behind places and people. And just because it is a Italic style villa complex doesn't mean you can't "explore".
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 11:36 pm

With the DLC, I guess they could have not told you where the BOS bunker was and had you just stumble across it. THe thing is that when you buy a DLC, you want to play it right away and I think most people would have googled its locaiton anyway. Many people have told you how they liked DM's storyline - I thought the story was great and while it wasn't quite the survival horror thing that they were aiming for (anymore than Anchorage was a good fps) it wasn't bad and there were times when I looked at the ghosts and thought "whoah, they're creepy." Not a fan of survival horror anyway...

For what it's worth, it wasn't perfect, but it was different. As sympathetic as I am, I cannot find any truth in that first complaint of yours. They also seem to be setting up for something big with this first DLC - I read somewhere that they have seven more planned. Maybe big things are going to happen
Spoiler
when this other courier shows up and we battle it out under an ancient flag
. The story was killer and with someone like that penning the script I for one and looking forward to it.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 2:53 pm

No. It's the craptacular representation of what "Modern Warfare" is. Dual wielding shotguns (LOL?! Have they even SHOT a shotgun?), pistols, SMGs. AC130s blowing 120mm canisters at soft-targets. Getting shot head-on by a .50 Calibre and magically not dying. It's an unrealistic pile of crap that tries to pose itself as realistic. Hell, it's like they went on a Hollywood movie binge and that's how they came up with the plot. Modern Warfare 2 svcked.

Oh and don't use the childish asinine "you don't have skill" argument, because it is not hard to absolutely tear at Crap of Dookie. I *always* come out with a 2:1 kill ratio.

Yes i cannot argue about that some of the stuff they do in there is ridiclus and not belieable. But isnt that how it is in FNV also...In MW2 you cant duel wield shotguns just try it in real life you might break your arm or put it out of place depending on the gauge. Plus theres plenty of guns that you shoot in peoles head in FNV and they dont die in one shot. Also the story line does not svck the singleplayer is pretty good if ask me. But latly i have been playing Battlefield bad company 2 it is far more challenging that COD. I have been getting sick of it within the first or second game of playing it after i was playing BBC2 for a while and RDR.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 9:50 pm

Dead money is a complete waste of money. Why would I want to run around a small area thats filled with nothing but bear traps. Seriously, couldnt you think of something else? This is what happens when you beat a 10 year code to death with the same thing over and over.

Whats different from this and new vegas, NOTHING. What is the justification of not including this in the original game? They want more money.

Bethesda is pitiful and becoming EA in a lot of ways. Nothing new and innovative for a hard core gamer.

Bioware is destroying Bethesda.

This DLC is only a few hours, only 2 new monsters (pitiful) with a stupid drawn out story that nobody cares about.

I will NEVER buy another game from Bethesda for as long as I live.

Just wait and read the reviews of this garbage. Its garaunteed the critics are going to scream FOUL PLAY!



Bye bye. You probably won't be missed.


...and we don't want to hear your complaints when you buy more DLCs.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 9:06 pm

To the OP,

Exactly how many bear traps did you step on, in a row, before you posted this?

This DLC has been very entertaining so far, and the use of extensive traps with the radio-detonating collar has been frustrating but interesting.

This is the first time in a while that I have been challenged in FO gameplay and rewarded for uncovering the "side plot," something I would strive for just for the personal satisfaction.

The story and character interactions in this DLC have exceeded my expectations, Christine pantomimes in text for God's sake, very engaging and unique.

You get to meet the guy on the poster!>>> He's an [censored]!

Well worth the 10 bucks......if you TRULY LIKE Fallout for what the game is at it's core.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 2:11 pm

Yes i cannot argue about that some of the stuff they do in there is ridiclus and not belieable. But isnt that how it is in FNV also...In MW2 you cant duel wield shotguns just try it in real life you might break your arm or put it out of place depending on the gauge. Plus theres plenty of guns that you shoot in peoles head in FNV and they dont die in one shot. Also the story line does not svck the singleplayer is pretty good if ask me. But latly i have been playing Battlefield bad company 2 it is far more challenging that COD. I have been getting sick of it within the first or second game of playing it after i was playing BBC2 for a while and RDR.


I play BBC2 pretty frequently. I just got the vietnam xpac, and it's pretty cool. I like how the bullets drop with gravity. If you haven't heard of it, try playing Rainbow Six: Vegas 2. It's the most realistic CQB Shooter I've ever played, and it's very hard.

As for comparing FNV with CoD, it doesn't work. Fallout doesn't claim to be realistic. Physics wise, in the Fallout universe was based off of speculations of the future from 1950s culture, so some things can be stretched, but it still tries to make sense.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 11:02 am

I play BBC2 pretty frequently. I just got the vietnam xpac, and it's pretty cool. I like how the bullets drop with gravity. If you haven't heard of it, try playing Rainbow Six: Vegas 2. It's the most realistic CQB Shooter I've ever played, and it's very hard.

As for comparing FNV with CoD, it doesn't work. Fallout doesn't claim to be realistic. Physics wise, in the Fallout universe was based off of speculations of the future from 1950s culture, so some things can be stretched, but it still tries to make sense.

yah but event then sometimes it makes no sense with some stuff they do.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 1:11 pm

A video game doesn't always make sense and isn't that realistic? I'm shocked, doesn't the world really pause while you change clothes mid-fight?

Is DM a waste of money? I've only got so far as gathering the companions so far but I'd be amazed if I get proportionally the same amount of hours as I did with the main game, so it definitely doesn't have the same value.

But I like it, it reminds me a bit of BioShock and don't feel ripped off so far.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 1:52 pm

DM IS AWESOME!!

Sorry bout' that. I just finished it, and I have to say, its one of the best Fallout dlcs ever. It had great writing, the back-story was just incredible, and there were no bugs!

Bravo Obsidian!
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 2:39 pm

I will NEVER buy another game from Bethesda for as long as I live until Skyrim comes out.....or maybe Fallout 4. Or...or..unless the GOTY for New Vegas is released with all the DLC. But not before then!


fixed. :lol:
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:45 am

fixed. :lol:

lol that is perfect.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 2:25 pm

Dead money is completly worth the money. I want to run around a small area thats filled with everything and bear traps. Seriously, could you think of something else? This is awsome

Whats different from this and new vegas, EVERYTHING. They want more people to play dead money cause it's awsome

Bethesda is great. Everythings new and great for harcore gamers

This DLC is only a few hours, only 2 new monsters (awsomel) with a epic drawn out story that everybody cares about.

I will Always buy games from Bethesda for as long as I live.

Just wait and read the reviews of this awsome game. Its garaunteed the critics are going to scream BEST DLC EVER

fixed! :)
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:11 am

I was skeptical at first. I'm not a big fan of the horror genre (and I'd say Dead Money is more horror than anything else), but I liked the DLC; a lot more than The Pitt actually (which people seemed to be comparing it to). I only had one bug (had a permanent health degeneration on me from The Cloud even after I stepped out of a cloud of gas) and had to fix it with a mod. The difficulty on hardcoe Mode was very challenging (more so than the rest of the game I think), voice-acting was good, loot was plentiful enough, secrets and achievements were interesting. The DLC really shines with the story (the most important part in my opinion) - absolutely top notch. Taking into account the bug and the horror setting not being my favorite, I'd give it an 8/10. Oh, and while I'm against DLC's in principle (generally speaking, I think you don't really get the amount of content that you pay for), this one was probably worth it.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:20 am

Well.. I wouldn't give up on a game company just because you didn't like one DLC... Skyrim is coming out in nov. Maybe fallout' just isn't your cup of tea... or maybe it was just this DLC that wasn't appealing to you. Plenty of people didn't like all of the F3 dlc's. I think one of the major problems with DLC's is that you can't return them. There' have been plenty that I wish I hadn't spent my money on. This isn't really the game makers fault however.. It's a team up of distributors and company money men.. There's plenty of games that have come out recently that have just plain disappointed me. So far DA2 is looking like another disappointing game in my list. But I keep on hoping.
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Post » Tue May 04, 2010 12:42 am

No, Dead Money is not horror. lol. It is an adventure mod with action. There is a lot of fetching and finding while sneaking and avoiding baddies to get a key or a silly objective. There is a lot of random logic you have to slog through -- which means there is no obvious consistency in how you disable the the things that can kill you.

That said, the gameplay (health, goods, weapons) and the script (writing, voice acting, plot) are excellent. Truly superb.

The environment could do without so much pink and red. Really ruined it for me.

If you compare this game to the base game, FNV, it is not even a second cousin. It is like what Mothership Zeta was to FO3. Not an expansion...not even related. Still, it is fun...if you like that sort of quest.

I was irritated by DM to no end. I enjoyed a lot of the above, but it was spoiled by the nagging random nature of its darned beeping and bear traps that you could not hope to solve in the first play through.

I rate it a B-minus. But since we can not go back to it, I rate it a C-.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:53 am

I enjoyed DM quite throughly it pissed me off at times but challenges make games funner. I didn't encounter any bugs with DM and I played it on the X-box. I also like Bioware games I don't know where the hate comes from but I understand the hate for the Taliban (Tali [censored]) Black Ops wasn't worth the $65 I spent on it it should be priced at $40 2 of the "missions" were giant [censored] CUTSCENCES
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:46 pm

OT: To be honest, Bioware has yet to make a game that will svck(from a statistics standpoint).

Like Beth with the exploration, Bio's strength lies in the writing, no matter how much it's cliché or it svcks in your opinin, it's still ten times superior to nearly everything we've seen so far(they hire professional writers for a reason). Well, maybe except for New Vegas and the Witcher 2. ;)
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 11:55 am

Dead money is a complete waste of money. Why would I want to run around a small area thats filled with nothing but bear traps. Seriously, couldnt you think of something else? This is what happens when you beat a 10 year code to death with the same thing over and over.

Whats different from this and new vegas, NOTHING. What is the justification of not including this in the original game? They want more money.

Bethesda is pitiful and becoming EA in a lot of ways. Nothing new and innovative for a hard core gamer.

Bioware is destroying Bethesda.

This DLC is only a few hours, only 2 new monsters (pitiful) with a stupid drawn out story that nobody cares about.

I will NEVER buy another game from Bethesda for as long as I live.

Just wait and read the reviews of this garbage. Its garaunteed the critics are going to scream FOUL PLAY!


I have to agree with you there, the DLC was NOT worth the money i paid for it . I just hope that there are better DLC's to come .
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:54 am

I have to agree with you there, the DLC was NOT worth the money i paid for it . I just hope that there are better DLC's to come .

BETTER this is one of the best dlcs I've played
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 1:15 pm

Dead money is a complete waste of money. Not to me.

Why would I want to run around a small area thats filled with nothing but bear traps. You expect to run around and kill baddies like Rambo. What is wrong with a bit of a challenge. If it wasn't for that you will be complaining 'Oh its too easy what is the point.'

Whats different from this and new vegas, NOTHING. Well you have a collar to keep you honest, whilst wearing that collar you have to watch out for speakers, tougher baddies and red gas. With the game proper your head don't explode when you are near a working speaker

What is the justification of not including this in the original game? They want more money. Well, okay say they include this in the game and they left half the things out when they are working in a tight time frame. How about game breaking glitches that breaks the game in-half. I am glad they gave it to Xbox box first to iron out most of the glitches out. If we got it on the same time, you will be crying whining that it broke your computer. Whilst I was playing I ran into one but it wasn't game breaking. All I have to do is to restart the game and it went fine after that. Without money the world will stop turning and we float off the earth.

Bethesda is pitiful and becoming EA in a lot of ways. Nothing new and innovative for a hard core gamer. Who has BioWare in their stables?

Bioware is destroying Bethesda. Kasumi Goto DLC, Zaeed Massani DLC are add-on quest that should of been included in that game including Shadow Broker. But other two, Shadow Broker and Overlord are great. Bethesda has done good DLC like SI, Point Lookout. There is one in Dragon Age Origins Witch Hunt.

This DLC is only a few hours, only 2 new monsters (pitiful) with a stupid drawn out story that nobody cares about. Few hour. For I it took me five hours on hard hard. I did care about my characters and wish I brought one with me. I reckon the story is good. You don't like reading much. Maybe.

I will NEVER buy another game from Bethesda for as long as I live. Don't then. No body is holding a gun to you head and forces you to get it. Wait and see ten months time when you whine about Skyrim.

Just wait and read the reviews of this garbage. Its garaunteed the critics are going to scream FOUL PLAY!I did. It is not the best and it not the worst but playing it is more enjoyable then replying to this. But I want to put my 2 bob in after reading your rant. Because I had the right to do it because I played it.
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 6:14 pm

No see you have the wrong game.

What you want is Bulletstorm or Gears of War. They are full of interesting monsters you can twitch shoot and vast generic battlefields that you can prance away on to your heart's content.

I have been playing Fallout since the late ninenties and Dead Money couldn't be more true to it's spirit. The writing, story and concept are BRILLIANT but you probably never finished grade school and letters give you headaches.

Again, New Vegas is a hardcoe PC RPG game with the emphasis on WRITING, SOUL and IMMERSION.

If you wanted a shooter, go get something by Epic. I hear they're pretty good at what they do.

Finally, Bioware, with the shining exception of the Mass Effect universe are vanilla softies compared to the darkness and grit of Obsidian and CDProjekt RED.

Cheers.

Sure :)
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Post » Mon May 03, 2010 8:43 am

This is has to be the most divided DLC ever people say it svcks others say it's boss LOL
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