Good match Trannigan! Hjolfyr would have done better without the bow. Next time I'll lose the bow...and the magic...and replace the warhammer with a mace and shield. ^_^
Trannigan FTW now!

Here is the corrected fight between Kjelhe and David: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZBCl2tKw2M



Yes, lose the bow. But don't switch to a mace and shield, get an enchanted warhammer instead. If I am correct Hjolfyr took more damage from the enchantment on Trannigan's sword than from the sword itself and enchantments can't be blocked and neither can spells for that matter. You're better of going for a brutal offensive with a hard hitting long reach weapon like Duluk did.


Tomorrow we start with round 2 and the following lineups:

Match 1: Crazy Jim vs Duluk the Conqueror

Duluk has shown that conjurers can be beaten, but this time he's up against the champ. Can he repeat his success?

Match 2: Gregnak gro-Nagrog vs Hrothgar the Speaker

Another Orc faces another summoner. And this summoner has the ability to invalidate one of Gregnak's victories. Can Gregnak still prevail?

Match 3: Kjelhe Bolthammer vs Tranngian Drattmer

The runner up of the original tournament against a conjurer from Skyrim. Trannigan is deadlier in melee thanks to his magic sword, but Kjelhe is a summoner. Who will win?

Match 4: Vandir Numdar vs John

Two Nords with the Warrior birthsign, no attack spells, pure melee slugfest. Vandir has a stronger weapon and higher Strength but John has a higher AR and a healing spell. Which will be decisive?

Stay tuned for more exciting matches in Deadliest Warrior of Oblivion: Sons of Skyrim!

(Personally, I think match 4 between Vandir and John will be the most fun to watch. They are both very durable so thei individual fights won't be over in 20 seconds.)

To my knowledge I never put Restoration as a major or Restore Health as a spell, but thanks for taking the time to make the correction and redo the match. I figured the change wouldn't make that much difference anyway. Congrats to all of the winners, especially Halperin and Kjelhe. I will be rooting for you for the rest of the tournament

In case you missed it, there's a link to David's second match in my post directly above yours.

Also, while upgrading the winners to level 21 I noticed that I was wrong. At level 21 Hrothgar and Kjelhe still have only 45 Conjuration so they're stuck with Scamps for one more match. That's great news for Gregnak and Trannigan, but Duluk is still doomed.

I have one question in case of a future tournament that I will hopefully sign up for in time, can the Staff of Everscamp or Sanguine Rose be chosen as artifacts? They seem like pretty good choices and I dont think I saw anyone choose them so I'm just curious.

Thanks. I think I may have done better with the restore health spell as he never even cast a shield spell :facepalm:

Anyway, just out of curiosity, in future tournaments would you consider allowing the use of any item of our choosing in place of an artifact in the final round? For instance, the Necklace of Swords. It's not an artifact per se, but is still a useful item that cannot be bought with the given gold budget.

And this question is for all of the members participating in the tournament: How close is your tournament character, including race, class, skills, etc. to the character you actually play as in-game? Is the character you are using in this tournament how you actually play, or did you make it just for this tournament? Mine was pretty spot-on to how I play, other than in-game I have Alchemy as a major instead of Light Armor. My character in-game does switch between unarmored, light armor, and heavy armor, though.

The Staff of Everscamp is scripted and only works on the player so no. But the Sanguine Rose should be legal. However, if the random daedra ends up killing both your opponent and you, the fight is considered a draw.



That is not true, he used his Shield both times. He casts it at the very beginning and it's duration is longer than the fight. See how he glows yellow whenever he gets hit? That's the Shield spell in action.



I think that's reasonable. Alright then, unless someone convinces me otherwise you'll be able to choose any item you want for the grand finale of the next tournament I host.

wheee im looking forward to the next fight, its gonna be epic XD

Gotcha. Now I just need someone to host another tourney. :toughninja: ^_^

Mine is very close to Rythe Arano in game, except Rythe has Alchemy instead of Light Armour (though he does use it) and Mysticism instead of Illusion.

Ah, you're right. I didn't catch that. I still think I did better with the restore health spell though.

Gurkog is a sad orc... I guess the magic sword did more damage with the enchantment than the weapons were doing....next time I may try using one

EDIT: Maybe I should have put his AI as a magic user so that he would cast restore health more often? /shrug

Yeah he did make it to the finals in that one, but after watchin the first few seconds of the first fight i was just thinking he would end up going down.

The last tourny I was in I kept thinking he was gonna lose every match til the finals, then when I started thinking "Hmmm maybe he can win it all..." he went down then.

Oh noes, my internet messed up and I missed quite a bit. D:
I didn't expect to win my round though, hopefully I can win against John and advance further, but just taking part was awesome.

Broken-scale, i hope the inevitable result of our battle has no effect on how you treat Hjolifur in our RP.

Ladies and gentlemen, the matches of Round 2 are here!

Match 1: Crazy Jim vs Duluk the Conqueror: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-xFp9M7GCY

Match 2: Gregnak gro-Nagrog vs Hrothgar the Speaker:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT1SYbUnLGE

Match 3: Kjelhe Bolthammer vs Trannigan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCsAKeX9aDo

Match 4: Vandir numdar vs John: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szucgQzWpBs

Note: I gave john an Imperial Palace helmet because otherwise it would be very hard to tell which one is which, with both of them being Nords andhaving the same armor.

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Don't worry, I don't think any less of him for losing

And a flawless victory by Gregnak!! Wohoo!!

EDIT: I was happy until I realized Gegnak will be facing Crazy Jim next. RIP Gregnak.

Crazy Jim leaves no one alive, ever.

Not even Crazy Jim can kill Crazy Jim.

As proven with the Skull of Corruption, last tournament.

Wow. Kjelhe's fight was intense, I was very surprised he won.

Yes, it was the closet of all the matches so far and also the most interesting to watch. I like it how at 0:51-0:53 it looks like Trannigan slit Kjelhe's throat.


I've been thinking about the fights and what we can learn from the ones until so far is:
- Heavy Armor is better than Light Armor. Not only is the armor itself stronger, but the Heavy Armor skill is governed by Endurance so the character has higher health.
- Conjuration is no longer instant win as Duluk and Gregnak demonstrated. Duluk eventually lost aginst a summoner, but in the second fight Crazy Jims showed that he can win just fine without his skeleton.
- Magic weapons make a big difference. The fighters are doing about 16-18 damage with their weapons, but the opponent's AR reduces that by about half so actual weapon damage is around 10. But top class magic weapons have enchantments that do 20 damage. So the enchantment on the weapon is probably doing twice as much damage as the weapon itself.
- Because of the impact of enchantments Atronach is the best brithsign. 50% Spell Absorption cuts down the enemy damage output by about a third and it's an extremely expensive effect to get with magic equipment. And with the superior magic protection it gives you, you can then spend your magic item budget enhancing your physical defenses.
- On a related note Bretons and Orcs are the best races. Of the two Orcs are more resitant to physical and Bretons are more resistant to magical damage.

And Crazy Jim is pretty much a textbook example of a character that uses these findings. He's a Breton with the Atronach birthsign, he is a combat character, he has a sword tha does fire damage, and he has Shield and Reflect Damage enchantments to protect him. On top of all that he is also a Journeyman in Conjuration and Restoration so he can heal himself and conjure up sme help.

At first I though, yeah another win! Then i read you gave my guy the imperial helmet :lmao: oh well, maybe next time ^^ Good fight!

Another good round of matches, svcks a little bit that Trannigan lost but I'm happy he atleast one the first battle in round 2. ^_^ It was a great fight though and Kjelhe put on a hell of a battle.

wait... wasn't i supposed to have a dremora this time around, not a scamp???

That was a mistake on my part. I though you'd have 50 conjuration, but you only had 45.