[RELz] Deadly Reflex 6 (Beta) - The Official Release and Bug : IV - Oblivion

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:39 pm

No! As you are missing a master, the game will not load! Also, you are using both DR 5 and DR 6 simultaneously. :facepalm: Uninstall DR5 first, clean save and READ THE README for DR6 :read: (it specifically asked you to do so).

PS: Also run BOSS and read the BOSS log to determine your mods order is oK or not. ANd use spoiler tags for listing your load order to avoid scrolling for all.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:23 pm

Sorry,

I just added the .esp Deadly Reflex 6 - combat moves.

You say I must uninstall DR 5. But I want to use this version, not DR 6, which is a beta.

How do I make spoliers?
[spolier] like this? [/spolier]

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:23 pm

Sorry,

I just added the .esp Deadly Reflex 6 - combat moves.

You say I must uninstall DR 5. But I want to use this version, not DR 6, which is a beta.

How do I make spoliers?
[spolier] like this? [/spolier]

Then uninstall
B9 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

I hope you created an OMOD out of DR6 (not manual install), so just uninstall DR6 using OBMM (or BAIN if you used that). Also, uninstall
A4 SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.90]

as it requires DR 6.

Then run BOSS, read the BOSS log and make corrections. Finally rebuild your bashed patch.

Yes, your use of "spoiler" tags is correct, but you need to correct the spelling of "spoiler".

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:53 am

Then uninstall
B9 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp

I hope you created an OMOD out of DR6 (not manual install), so just uninstall DR6 using OBMM (or BAIN if you used that). Also, uninstall
A4 SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.90]

as it requires DR 6.

Then run BOSS, read the BOSS log and make corrections. Finally rebuild your bashed patch.

Thank you for all the help provided. This is now the list of mods:

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.71]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm07  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  BetterMusicSystem.esm0D  CURP_Controller.esm0E  HorseCombatMaster.esm0F  ScreenEffects.esm10  Toaster Says Share v3.esm11  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]12  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]13  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp19  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp1A  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp1B  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1E  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1F  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp20  Side's EAX Control.esp21  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]22  ScreenControls.esp23  DLCHorseArmor.esp24  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]25  DLCOrrery.esp26  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]27  DLCVileLair.esp28  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]29  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2A  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2B  DLCSpellTomes.esp2C  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2D  DLCThievesDen.esp2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]30  ExnemRuneskulls.esp31  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp33  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.69]34  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]35  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp36  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]37  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp38  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp3A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]3B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3E  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]3F  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]42  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]44  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]45  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]46  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]47  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]48  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]49  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4A  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4D  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]4E  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]52  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.2b]54  TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 1.2b]55  TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp  [Version 1.2b]56  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [Version 1.2b]57  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]58  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]59  BlackMarshHall.esp5A  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp5B  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp5C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp5D  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp5E  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp5F  Return Of Shadows.esp  [Version 1.03]60  DLCFrostcrag.esp61  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]62  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp63  Knights.esp64  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]65  The Lost Spires.esp66  Mighty Umbra.esp67  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6]68  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp69  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6A  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]6B  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6C  FCOM_OMG.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6D  FCOM_OMGSRT.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6E  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]6F  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp70  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]71  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]72  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]73  xulTheHeath.esp74  XulEntiusGorge.esp75  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]76  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]77  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]78  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]79  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]7A  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]7B  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]7C  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]7D  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]7E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]7F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]80  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]81  xulPantherRiver.esp82  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]83  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]84  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]85  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]86  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]87  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]88  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]89  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]8A  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp8B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]8C  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]8D  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]8E  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]8F  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]90  Short Grass V3.esp91  BIE.esp92  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]93  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]94  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]95  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]96  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]97  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]98  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]99  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]9A  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]9B  MidasSpells.esp9C  FearsomeMagicka.esp9D  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp9E  StealthOverhaul.esp9F  RenGuardOverhaul.espA0  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.espA1  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 3.7.1]A2  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espA3  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espA4  OOO-Level_Slow.espA5  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.espA6  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.espA7  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.espA8  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]A9  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]AA  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]AB  Better Cities Full.espAC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.espAD  Better Imperial City.espAE  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.espAF  Better Imperial City - OMG.espB0  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.espB1  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]B2  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.espB3  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.espB4  Francesco's 21 days respawn time - 1-24 day lenght rescale.espB5  WNewShockBoltEffects20.espB6  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]B7  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]B8  CasaMania.espB9  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.espBA  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Yes, your use of "spoiler" tags is correct, but you need to correct the spelling of "spoiler".

:facepalm:

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:53 pm

So, do you still have errors?

I noticed a few things that could be improved in your load order:

12 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
This can be done as a Wrye Bash tweak while building hte bashed patch, so suggest not using this and using the bashed patch tweak instead.

13 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
This is not needed based on other's recommendations I've read on this forum.

Read the MMM thread about these. I am sure both of these are not meant to be used together:
4B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

IIRC, I think the latter one is the preferred esp these days.

And not sure if these are even needed anymore:
30 ExnemRuneskulls.esp
31 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

I don't hink TIE4 Mods has been updated and plays niely with FCOM. Suggest uninstalling these:
53 TIE In.esp [Version 1.2b]
54 TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 1.2b]
55 TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.2b]
56 TIE In - RealSwords.esp [Version 1.2b]

I'll suggest using "Weather - All Natural" instead of
1F Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

All Natural includes Natural Weather and a few more.

Also suggest getting Enhanced Economy.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:34 pm

Because the SM patch for DR is outdated, don't use it. :wink_smile:

This is not correct m8, the latest version of http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12466 works perfectly with DR6

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:58 pm

Just thought i would repost my issue and this happens with other mods that require me to set a hotkey so it could be a local issue. However when i start a new game or try to load any other pre-existing character except the one i logged onto the first time i used DR6 i cannot seem to get the hotkey's set. The stranger thing is that despite having the keys already set in the .ini like the install instructions noted i was given a series of menus telling me to push only the key i wanted to set for each. This wouldnt be a problem if the keys actually set, instead they seem to be set at random including making the bash key the up movement of my mouse. Im hoping this is an issue that can be fixed within my system so that mods like Craftybits work as well.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:55 am

So, do you still have errors?

I noticed a few things that could be improved in your load order:

12 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
This can be done as a Wrye Bash tweak while building hte bashed patch, so suggest not using this and using the bashed patch tweak instead.

13 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
This is not needed based on other's recommendations I've read on this forum.

Read the MMM thread about these. I am sure both of these are not meant to be used together:
4B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

IIRC, I think the latter one is the preferred esp these days.

And not sure if these are even needed anymore:
30 ExnemRuneskulls.esp
31 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

I don't hink TIE4 Mods has been updated and plays niely with FCOM. Suggest uninstalling these:
53 TIE In.esp [Version 1.2b]
54 TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 1.2b]
55 TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.2b]
56 TIE In - RealSwords.esp [Version 1.2b]

I'll suggest using "Weather - All Natural" instead of
1F Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

All Natural includes Natural Weather and a few more.

Also suggest getting Enhanced Economy.

Thank you again. I′ve done all you suggest. Now the game works fine.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:00 am

hoping for some help with torches.

i'm using this: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34644 because I prefer the way it handles the torch hotkey. Think I have configured the DR6 .ini correctly, but it doesn't seem that the light from the torch is throwable... i can throw the torch, but the light stays put.

here's the .ini line:

;ADVANCED CONFIG - Form id of a torch to be dropped - default is from Drop lit torches OBSE
set scc.dropTorchModName to sv_construct "ROM Drop Lit Torches.esp"
set scc.torchId to sv_construct "0002CF9F"

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:16 pm

Hi,

I love this mod, and wouldn't go back to vanilla combat. I have one issue with initiating attacks. When I release an special attack (attack+direction), my character lets out one quick slash before starting the special move. This messes up the combat, of course, since there's always that one unintended move before whatever I try to do.

The bug appeared after I re-installed Oblivion because of general instability. I did a clean install of Oblivion in a new folder, installed a number of other mods and installed DR 6 with OBMM. When I saw the problem, I made a clean save without DR, unistalled DR, installed it again and loaded the save. Everything worked nicely, I edited the keys from my .ini as I like them, but the problem persisted. Deadly Reflex reset item fixes the problem, but of course it also wipes out my key bindings for that session. And when I've gone through the DR pop-up menus, which ask you to choose key bindings for bashing, dodging etc, I get a message telling me that I'm now ready to play, and the problem appears again. My Oblivion keyboard attack key binding works normally, only the mouse attack buttons are messed up.

I wonder if any of you could help me pinpoint the problem any further. Thanks!

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:24 pm

@Rightemboyo: If you are using DR 6 and still have a key configuration menu pop up then you did not properly uninstall DR 5 before you installed DR 6. You must clean save after removing DR 5 and before adding DR 6. Refer to the opening post of this thread for instructions on this procedure.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:53 pm

Having a small problem with DR5 after installing the hotfix. Whenever I log into a character, the game gives me this message:

Deadly Reflex has a problem. Report this problem to Skycaptain ASAP! You can temporarily fix this problem by opening the console and tyoing set skycaptainsSB.victim to 0.

I typed that into the console and everything seemed to be working fine, but I figured I should report this here anyway before weird things start happening.

Any help would be appreciated.

Here's my load order, just in case, though I don't think it's a conflict problem since it only happens to one of my characters and not the other, even though they have the same load order:

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
MD_Saddle_Master.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
CURP_Controller.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - Natural Weather.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
CDM-CGO Horse Armor Compatability.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp
CDM-CGO Frostcrag Compatibility.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp
CDM-CGO Vile Lair Compatibility.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp
CDM-CGO Thieves Den Compatibility.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp
CDM-CGO Shivering Isles Compatibility.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp
RTT.esp
Origin of the Mages Guild.esp
300_White Stallion 4.esp
Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
Mart's Monster Mod.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Balrogs.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Wyvern.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp
Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 3.esp
Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp
Myths and Legends Fran Patch 2.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_MMM.esp
SM_SigilStone.esp
SM_Scrolls.esp
SM_UnlockSpells.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_EnchantStaff.esp
Mighty Umbra.esp
Pitchable_Tent.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
SleepRestAnyTime.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
Portable Campsite.esp
24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
CDM-Character Generation Overhaul.esp
hackdirtabyss.esp
Cheydinhal Petshop.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
Hunter's Haven File 1.esp
Will_to_Kill_by_Mojodot.esp
Rideable_Wild_Horses.esp
TeachSpell.esp
thievery.esp
MM_TextLocks.esp
immersive_caves_auto.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
The Bow of the Mongolian Horseman.esp
Crowded Roads.esp
Legion Horses.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
Denock Arrows.esp
GP_Lockpicks.esp
Corpse_Kvatch.esp
Drop Lit Torches Weight.esp
Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp
mythsandlegends.esp
Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
RealHungerv1.4.esp
RealSleep.esp
RealisticFatigue.esp
ReneerNPCNameMod.esp
Charon's Call by Nicoroshi.esp
Talon of Akatosh Claymore.esp
The Bow of Ash.esp
The Bow of the Drow.esp
Mirage_Bronze.esp
Nico's Dreadweave Axes.esp
Akorithi's Jade Bow.esp
The Bow of the Hunter.esp
Doomshard Bow.esp
Nicos Ice Bow.esp
Wulfharths Fury.esp
The Bow of Robin of Locksley.esp
Nicos Tabaxi Bows.esp
Nicos Kynareth Archery.esp
Nicos Dread Doomshard Bow.esp
Spirit Blade.esp
The Bow of Daedric Blood.esp
Nico's Dreadweave Bow and Arrows.esp
Wyrmfang.esp
Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp
Nico's Daes' Rakan Swords.esp
Nicos Scimitars Back.esp
Obsidian Axe.esp
Nico's Dreadweave Armor_heavy.esp
Side's Sailing Ships.esp
Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
Distant Chapel Bells.esp
Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp
No Quest Items.esp
Enhanced Hotkeys.esp
Jiv Companion 2.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Thieves Arsenal.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp
SM_DeadlyReflex.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:12 pm

Has anyone experienced an issue with changing the Oblivion.ini setting - fNearDistance=0.0000 ?

When I change this setting as suggested in the ReadMe, I see graphical glitches on grass and distant LOD such as roofs, walls etc...
The graphical glitch almost looks like the same effect when Grass moves very fast, similar to a timescale setting of 1000 or so.
This issue could be caused by an incompatibility with another mod, but I haven't narrowed that down yet. Just wanted to see if anyone else has already reported this bug.

Thanks

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:59 pm

Does anyone if it`s possible to use only the Timed Block.esp without the Combat Moves.esp and the HorseCombat.esm? I would like to test something.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:39 pm

I was using this in a game before, but unfortunately I got a virus and had to delete the game and reinstall Oblivion. I remember at that time, my player could throw torches but the first tme he threw a weapon, the game crashed. I installed the Thrown Weapon meshes and everything worked fine. I also let BOSS set my load order, which didn't put the Combat Moves.esp last anymore. I noticed someone (maybe SkyCaptain, but I remember it was someomne working on the mods) said that even though the Read Me said to do so, it would work without it. Same was said for the DRSplatter.esp. My game was fine until I got the virus.

I've since started a new game and I just tried to throw a torch and it freezes the game. I reloaded to test it again and it did the same thing. I've also used BOSS to sort out my load order (see below). I'm sure this must have been addressed somewhere else, but there's so many threads and comments that I don't know where to begin looking. The beginning topics on torches mentioned nothing about freezing, just mostly lighting issues.

What is causing the torches to freeze the game, and how can I fix this?

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Cobl Races TNR.esp
Cobl Races TNR SI.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Symphony of Violence.esp
MIS.esp
MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Item interchange - Extraction.esp
Reset the Blood Decal Variable.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
FF_Real_Thirst.esp
DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
DropLitTorchOBSE.esp
Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp
MMM-Cobl.esp
SB IC Palace Tower Light Mod v1.1 - Modified Version.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp
ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts Visible From Cyrodiil.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
Nascosto Isles 3.esp
All Natural - Nascosto Isles Weather Patch.esp
thievery.esp
VOILA.esp
VOILA - Soldiers of Empire.esp
za_bankmod.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp
Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp
Blood&Mud.esp
Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp
road+bridges.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp
Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
RealisticFatigue.esp
RealisticHealth.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
RealSleepExtended.esp
Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp
Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp
DRSplatter.esp
Item interchange - Placement.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
Cobl Races.esp
Cobl Races - Balanced.esp
DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp
Real Hunger, Cobl.esp
NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp
Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

By the way, i'm pretty much using all of the same mods I used in the last game, except the Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.

Edit: I reordered my .esp's according to the Read Me but i'm still freezing when I attempt to throw a torch. Turns out my silver dagger causes a freeze as well, and i've already installed the mesh fixes. I'm not sure why it's not working now, but worked before. Help anyone?

Edit: I uninstalled DR6 for the time being until I find a solution for this problem. I reinstalled it in hopes it would work, but i'm still having the same issues. I'll wait for a reply.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:07 pm

Is it possible to return my 100 Blade character's forward power attack to the same attack he used at 99? The jumping and slashing is just a tad too slow for my combat tastes.

Either way, great job! I don't think I've ever had modded Oblivion as stable as it is with DR6 :tops:

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:42 pm

Is it possible to return my 100 Blade character's forward power attack to the same attack he used at 99? The jumping and slashing is just a tad too slow for my combat tastes.

Either way, great job! I don't think I've ever had modded Oblivion as stable as it is with DR6 :tops:

Yes their is actually a very easy way to do this.

All you need to do is go into the Oblivion/Data/Meshes/Characters\_Male Folder and then make a copy of the onehandattackforwardpower.kf then delete the onehandskill4attackforwardpower.kf and rename your copy of the onehandattackforwardpower.kf to onehandskill4attackforwardpower.kf.

Do the exact same thing in the Oblivion\Data\meshes\Characters\_1stperson\ folder and you will have your character performing the double hand thrust instead of the jumping power attack.

Hopefully that clears everything up.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:32 pm

Ok. 3 posts ago, I mentioned something about my game freezing whenever I threw a torch or a weapon. I wasn't clear about clinfidel's instructions on getting 'lag' when this happened on occasion, so I didn't really pay attention to it. This time I decided to wait after I threw a torch to see what would happen. After about 6 or 7 seconds or so, I regained control and the game went back to normal. I noticed the torch on the ground in the direction I threw it. I also noticed another torch on the ground in front of me in a few instances for some strange reason, as if I threw one and dropped another. Also, when I went to try to pick up the torch I had thrown, there was a closed fist icon instead of an open hand icon and I wasn't able to pick it back up. Per clnfidel's instructions, I uninstalled DR6, made a clean save, then reinstalled ONLY the HorseCombatMaster.esm, the Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp and the Combat Moves.esp. I tried putting these 2 .esp's at the very end of the list, immediately following the bashed patch, then I tried placing the bashed patch at the very end of the list, immediately following the 2 .esp's, and still got the same results. I also reinstalled OBSE v0019b, which I already had installed in the game in the first place. I also reinstalled NifSE (beta 2 I think, whichever one said to use for DR6). I'm still having this problem, and according to his instructions, 'we will have something to talk about'. So at this point, I have absolutely no idea why this is doing this. So I think clnfidel and I need to have a chat. lol Anyone have any idea what's going on here?

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:49 am

Yes their is actually a very easy way to do this.

All you need to do is go into the Oblivion/Data/Meshes/Characters\_Male Folder and then make a copy of the onehandattackforwardpower.kf then delete the onehandskill4attackforwardpower.kf and rename your copy of the onehandattackforwardpower.kf to onehandskill4attackforwardpower.kf.

Do the exact same thing in the Oblivion\Data\meshes\Characters\_1stperson\ folder and you will have your character performing the double hand thrust instead of the jumping power attack.

Hopefully that clears everything up.

Worked like a charm. Thanks a lot!

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:57 pm

Is there a way that I can make it so throwing a weapon at someone kills 100%?

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:50 pm

Does DR6 muck up when you use different sword idle poses and run poses? There's a slight pause between the running forward motion and the forward power attack, which makes fighting in 3rd person a pain. I love KSTN Stylized Stance, but I also love Deadly Reflex more, I hate to have to pick..

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:33 pm

Is this going to work on Steam? I haven't been able to get DR to work on Steam, so I just haven't played Oblivion since I got it.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:47 pm

Is this going to work on Steam? I haven't been able to get DR to work on Steam, so I just haven't played Oblivion since I got it.

Every mod works with steam. I'm running DR wonderfully using steam. Are you sure you have obse?

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:21 pm

Still hoping someone can help me with my lag issue.

Edit: I decided to go ahead and uninstall DR6 then reinstall it. I tried loading my last clean save a few times, and either it made me run through selecting the hot keys again and then the moves stopped working, I was able to throw a weapon but not a torch without lag (but then the moves stopped working), or I didn't get any options at all. I'm seriously debating on just installing DR5 until these problems are ironed out. It's beginning to get very frustrating, and i'm not sure why it worked fine on my last game but not this one. I'm not blaming anyone. There are bugs and these take time to fix. Either that or i've done something wrong. But i'm pretty sure I haven't. I noticed other people had problems with animations ceasing to work. Maybe there was a solution that came along with it. Until then, hopefully someone can give me some advice. I'm still debating on whether to use DR5 or not. The Deady Reflex mod in general adds so much to combat, I don't know if I can polay without one form or another.

» Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:07 pm

Every mod works with steam. I'm running DR wonderfully using steam. Are you sure you have obse?

Mods like OBSE or MGE don't work with Steam. Apparently they "access the main executable which is not the same as the retail .exe, as it is encrypted for Steam's DRM".

I do not know what this means.