A God is a deity that creates and/or controls the cosmos. A deadra does neither.

Sure you can call them gods, but being a god is not a title of authority and power, and by nature they are deadra.
Maybe they are, as mentioned before, gods over their own realm.

Then only the Godhead is the only "god" in your definition. And even then, I'm a little wary on that, because it didn't really even create anything, only went into a schizophrenic episode and is still a completely shattered mind.

Also, the definition of god in TES seems different from the definition you seem to be using. Plus, the princes didn't create their realms, they are their realms, literally. The aedra can't be gods, because Mundus and Nirn are just parts of them, cut up and mashed together. The only creation they did was cut themselves up enough to create a spherical body for the lesser spirits to reside in, with the gift of free will.

Lastly, there's nothing in TES that went "'and let there be light' and there was light." or something along those lines.

[A great four-armed beast towers over you. At first he does nothing but laugh at all of you.]

I see that my great lie has continued on to even this day. What a wonderful comfort it is to know that the hours spent asserting that gods are very powerful creatures has not gone unheeded.

It's a simple logic, don't you think? A god has the power to exert his will upon the very fabric of existence. Aedra have that power, therefore they must be gods. Daedra have that power, therefore they must be gods. The Doom Drum has that power, therefore he must be a god (an unfortunate side-effect to my assertion).

Where the flaw in that resides is in how a god is defined. A god is the creator of places, worlds, peoples, civilizations. Don't you think the self-styled Imperials would be a little put off be the fact that 8 parts of their pantheon were spirits who created the world, and then another was a mortal who had ascended? Hah! The 8 created and sustains the world. Talos created and sustained the Empire. That's the important part. Gods create. Daedra change and destroy. You might argue, still clinging to your wrong-headedness, that Daedra created their own realms. But that is not true. We changed ourselves and the void so that we would have a realm.

I hope that you keep this in mind, of how my ideas and baseless points fooled you, the next time you believe me to be a stupid, repetitative, unlearning, unsubtle brute.

Oh, I agree. Redmer told me he'd thought about sending Jone and Jode, but he went with vile instead. Two gods I never thought of, but are represented in every game since... Redguard, right?

Omnipotence doesn't quite matter, hence why so many gods are integrated in a plane which is itself a sovereign god.

By that definition, there's exceedingly few gods - even into polytheist religions. The greek pantheon wouldn't have any actively venerated god, since the creator being is dead, and none of the gods has such control - they all have their spheres, and even if Zeus's supposed to be the guy in charge, he's far from having compelte control. Same goes for just about every pantheon around. Even if one of the god is th creator/controler of everything, the others are gods too.

It seems you're considering 'god' under the monotheist definition of the term - which is a very restrictive one and completely irrelevant in the TES universe.

Not irrelevant. The Alessians believed in the One.

And even in monotheistic terms, there is debate between all-knowing, and all-creating. One is good because that god is good, and the other is good because of circular logic reasoning.
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I'm still not sure where this Hoon Ding appears in the game. I honestly don't recall it from reading the Story of Redguard.

Hoon Ding is the "Make Way" god or something, right? I thought it was Cyrus or the Prince's Sword that was the Hoon Ding.

That's not very godlike. More like some attempt at manteling, like with the whole Nerevarine & false incarnates thing.

A reguard god avatar of sorts.

So your average Tirdas in Tamriel, got it.

Okay, define an avatar for me then. Is it the "god" itself making a cameo appearance, or is it the "god"s champion with a tad of divine power, or what?

Or is both?

More of like a mortal acting as his cameo, but not really? The Hoo Ding, to me at least, seems to be just a state of mind and power; it's lost and gained when conditions are met. Hell, I'll cop out and say both, like what Verlox suggested above. Stupid redguard...

Uuuugh, my scientific minds wants precise answers and terminology. I can accept and understand it being both at once. But, really, this whole "god" as an acceptable accurate term just isn't working. Ada, et'ada, and mortal/et'ada avatars. Can the Daedric Princes have avatars? Can the Earthbones have avatars, or are they too dead?

I thought the Earthbones were as dead as a god could be, next to the point of being entirely forgotten. I guess if you have the power to move mountains and be immortal, you're a god. But apparently that's not the case. Skah! me 'ead 'urtz!

I know what you mean, sis. Just for once, once(!), I would like some concrete information about the weirder aspects of Tamriel. Doesn't have to be big, just a little something.

Personally, I prefere to read about Tamriel's history. Isn't too much of that, unfortunately.

TES history is even more soupy!

When it has to do with Cyrodiil, yeah. I mean, what's so hard about getting some information about Othrok of Dwynnen? Or Ysgramor? Will the world collapse if we get some more info on Reman I?

I don't mind soupy, as long as there are underlying rules and principles. It can look and seem as soupy as possible, as long as there's an underlying logic to it to make it consistent and coherent. Like String Theory and stuff, you know? Something elegant, the "hidden" rules behind the seemingly illogical. There's got to be rules, otherwise there are too many exceptions - that sort of thing makes it hard to create and tell an internally consistent story that can be believed.

@Verlox: Sister, not bro.

Oh dear! My humblest apologies. Woops

Just when I think I'm getting used to the Lore a new thread pops up which makes me rethink everything again.

They were right deadra are not considered gods.

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/aedra_daedra.shtml

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/monomyth.shtml

care to elaborate, other than linking two books?