Dear PC players.... why do you hate us?

Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:48 am

Im not excited for crysis 2. PC gamers are crytek's bastard child. They wish we would just die, or at least leave them alone.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:11 am

Im not excited for crysis 2. PC gamers are crytek's bastard child. They wish we would just die, or at least leave them alone.

If Your "not excited for crysis 2" Then Why Are You On This Website?

PS: Your Xbox/PS3 Games Are Made On PC, Show Some Respect.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:25 am

We do not hate console players...uh at least I don't. The fact comes down to our game machines cost $1000+ and your xbox / ps3 was 200 or 300 bucks. We want Crytek to focus on pc because that's where they started and we max out our comps for their games.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:32 pm

Console noobs and PC Elitists....see that is the problem with both sides or at least the more vocal people on both sides of the gaming spectrum. Each part think that the other one is wrong...but it is not the PC to blame nor the console...they are just a way to consume a good...that good being a game. I started with an Atari 2600 at the age of like 8 gaming and had a NES, Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Nintendo 64, Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo Gamecube, Nintendo Wii, and currently I have a Playstation 3 which my son mainly plays. You could say I grew up on consoles, but about 2 years ago I got the urge to build a gaming PC. Now I have a I7 875k at 4ghz and a GTX 580...It rips anything apart...but the problem is all of the games are being held back for the lowest common denominator, which are the XBOX and PS3. Is it the gamers fault, no but It would be nice if i could use some of the potential performance that my PC has to max out games. I guess it is like a School lowering the standards because some kids don't get it, so they lower them so that everyone will pass. What needs to happen is more individuality in each version of a game, but companies are worried about quick profit and don't give a crap...they appease to whichever group has more people willing to buy a game, and that is console. Are the Console players to blame, no, but I think they end up being a scapegoat because of the way developers handle pc gaming.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:17 am

Ive got nothing against people who only know how/prefer to game on consoles. I have a 360 myself, mainly for non fps,exclusive for console i.e. fighting/racing games, but I will say because everyone one and their mother owns a console now, developers aren't focusing on PC anymore and its hurting our pc gaming experience. I won't go into detail but consoles are **** up many things pc gaming stands for, and a lot of people aren't too happy about this.In my opinion, and in many others, Crysis2 is a game that should have remained on PC for obvious reasons.

So basically, a lot of us dont ''hate'' consoles, but hate what they are doing to the pc gaming. I'm actually happy for you guys, since you get to experience a great game on your preferred platform.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:04 am

I would like to try and explain this whole Console vs. PC thing. First of all everyone should know that I am biased toward PC, because that is almost all I play. Just to let you know, My brother has an Xbox 360 and I own a PS2 and a top of the line (as of 2008-2009) PC. Anyway, I don't have anything against console players, I only like PC because I can customize it, I can do work on it, and I can play games that look amazing, I do not understand why PC extremists hate console players so much. (its probably because they are PC extremists :) One of the reasons PC players on these Crysis 2 forums hate console players is because they think that Crysis 2 is going to be a console port, and naturally they blame you guys (The Console Players). I doubt that Crysis 2 is a console port, seeing how Crytek has always been a PC oriented company, they have many times said that they will deliver the best PC graphics possible, and they will not abandon the PC gaming community. Before you say that Crysis 2 is a "Console Port", play through the completed version of the game!!

PS: Us PC guys need to get over this Console, PC war. We all like to play video games, stop these Console vs. PC arguments!

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Charlotte Henderson
 
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:16 pm

"Like it or not, we are allies against a common foe!" Crappy game developers and greedy publishers. :)
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:17 am

The hate comes from most PC gamers that have "Enthusiast" class computers that are really expensive to build and them feeling that there reason for building top of the line PC's to play really advanced games have been seeing more good games come out on consoles rather on there wallet-breaking machines.

I haven't seen a lot of PC gamers with slow computers complaining about the graphics and whatnot.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:51 pm

First of all I'd like to say the amount of seriousness being taken in peoples comments and just the general rationale is great, no flaming 4 pages in is a good sign. And I wholly agree with most everyones posts, PC gamers are right for being a little worried of a possible loss in quality due to the focus on consoles but like many others I take into account Crytek's history to take solace that they will still provide a top quality experience for PC gamers with many levels of rigs. For the DX11 delay argument I think it's just taking much more of their time to tweak the engine performance for both the PS3 and the 360 to ensure they can eke out the most quality from each. In the end it is up to the developers to use the console market as a new audience to gain even more popularity and profit but still maintain the quality of their software to amaze and outperform their predecessors in the PC market as well.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:21 am

hate? no. but you xbox and ps3 fanboys are just lame talking about which console have better graphic, THEYRE THE F***ING SAME! even if theyre different, its ONLY by a decimal.<-- thats the reason why i hate console fanboy. but i do NOT saying if youre playing crysis 2 on console are ****, because some people do NOT have the money to build such system. but i do want you console fanboy to know that without PC gamers, you wont even have the chance to play crysis 2 itself. now to the point, those dumbass who just trolling on comments that playing on console is ****, theyre **** themselves. im a pc fanboy, but im not as f*** up as others pc fanboy to go around and say "PC is the best" endless time, there are pc that cant match console either. to sum up, both PC fanboys and console fanboys need to STFU with this stupid "I AM BETTER THAN YOU"
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:52 pm

No pants lol. It was all at renegade. your in da clea.

(((Shrugs off the dust)))

Seriously, no hate. I dont know why you console players would utter this. When we PC players look at you guys, to us, you all have only touched the surface of being a gamer.

Being a gamer has its level of appreciation and of course pride.

I am a proud owner of a Wii, PS3, and Xbox. I love playing Melee games like God of War I. II. III. , Devil May Cry etc games on my lovely 5ms Samsung 42" LCD TV. When it comes to FPS games I absolutely HATE playing on a console.

I feel "limited" "confined" and "constricted" from what I can actually do with a PC in regards to skills, and unleashing true art of war. However this can only be understood by an experienced PC gamer who has been between the two worlds of Console and PC.

A PC gamer of course would take gaming a whole lot more seriously than a console player. It starts with a unison between player and PC whereas your PC is an art, a portrayed expression of yourself, built to express YOU in a virtual world.

From your display to keyboard to the mouse etc is transformed to head, arms, body and legs converted into a virtual world where we can express ourselves in a safe place.

Graphic details is very important to us, the every detail and texture is taken with every grain to be close as possible to the real world in order to interact with it to the fullest.

Your PC is built like a weapon in order to have the advantage over the other. A 2ms vs a 5ms makes a difference if it is taken adavantage of. The in dept detail of your graphics makes a diffence if it is taken advantage of ie sound, and shadows.

What pride is their in a console ? A console is just like another console, no uniqueness, no connection between console and player cause you didnt build it or it wasnt built to your specifications, rather, it was a dictation of someone elses idea for what THEY wanted you to experience.

Flexing some mucles here: When you have spec like this:

AMD Phenom II X4 4.0Ghz OC
MSI NF980-G65 Mobo
MSI N580GTX "SLI"
WD 10k RPM Velociraptor HDD
Corsair Dominator GT (BEP Support) Dual Channel 8GB 1600Mhz OC
Samsung 2ms 46" LED/LCD 3D TV

It expresses a leathal weapon, now all that matters is the wielder of this weapon.

Btw the specs above is not imaginery http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1693749

If you think that PC and console are equally the same in graphics then you are lieing to yourself or just havent played on a real gaming PC machine yet.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:26 am

No you are all elitists. It is absolutely hate. Face it. Aside from a few Minor details, they look pretty much exactly the same wherever you play it. Then it's about preference. Mouse + Keyboard, or controller.


Thinking your better than someone else just because you spend more money is absolutely pathetic. You're no better than me, and I'm no better than you. Except my aditude towards gaming isn't a biased piece of ****.

Your just downright ignorant because you've never played on a good gaming PC and seen the absolute Night and Day difference between It and console graphics. And whatever the hell you want to think about elitists...if it weren't for PC's you wouldn't have any games at all...we are just frustrated at having 2011 hardware and playing games made for 2007 hardware (a console is a generic pc based more or less on 2007 hardware). Is it your fault or any one of the million's of others who game on a console (including my son).....nope. But to say the experience of a good PC game is just slightly better is ridiculous. Why don't you google some images from Crysis 1 and tell me it looks slightly better than a console game?
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:08 pm

I for one am amazed by the co-operation taking place here. I have friends that play Xbox 360, PS3 (my platform), and PC I get along with all of them equally. Never heard a bad word about the system I play on said to my face anyway. If you play on PC more power to you, same with Xbox 360, and PS3. We all have reasons for playing on our chosen platform, be it be money, comfort, or something else. I understand that developers tend to love/hate certain platforms for various reasons, but really the way I see it if I were a developer and was making a multi-platform game or any game for that matter I would optimize it for each platform. I wouldn't sacrifice quality for quantity which is what I'm seeing most of the time anymore. Why go for the quick buck when you can go for longevity and loyal fans? In the long run I would say that the latter is going to net you more profits. You go for the quick buck and your going to disappoint part of the fan base and will more then likely lose that fanbase. When it comes time that you release a sequel or heck a new game they would probably see a dramatic drop in all but the chosen lead platform. After enough time all you will have is that one platform then its just an exclusive. On the other hand if you cement yourself to providing the best possible experience to all platforms and back it up by talking with the community, and showing them that you are doing everything possible to optimize it for their platform of choice profits will increase. Just think about it your talking to some of your friends and he or she tells you that you have got to try this game, they have done everything possible to make it the best on x platform, but you don't play that platform you say. Thats fine they have done the same thing for y and z platform too, what do you think is going to happen? I know I personally would give it a try. If Crytek has managed to do this with all of the release platforms I know for sure that they have gained at least one fan, if not many.

Okay wow this turned out to be way longer then I intended it to be, I decided to cut out a large portion of it due to the length of it so if it seems like I jump around idea wise alot sorry for that.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:02 am

I hate console casuals because they started all that DLC frenzy ****. rant pants off ;P
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:11 am

I find it hard to believe that any informed individual here could deny that the console industry has had a detrimental effect on the quantity and quality of PC games. There are many reasons for this one of which is that console gamers continue to play on consoles. Not that this is inherently wrong or should be the cause of a rift between PC/console gamers. This hate is really misplaced. It should however be directed at game developers who take good PC franchises and turn them in to poor console ports. IMHO console ports shouldn't even exist (that and this whole micro transaction/DLC craze). Here is a few games that on the PC play like crap because they were designed foremost with a console in mind.

1. Lost Planet (On screen prompts use 360 buttons A,B,X,Y,etc.)
2. Resident Evil 4 (3rd person shooter with no mouse aiming WTF!?!?!?)
3. Most recent Need for speed games (Try playing these without a game pad compared to the first few)

I could go on for quite a while but it isn't really necessary. What it all comes down to is developers need to stop making PC games if they are going to half ass it. The ball is in their court and aside from somehow convincing millions/billions of console owners to enact a mass boycott there isn't much we can do because the PC community has unfortunately become the minority in the gaming industry (which started here on the PC).
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:59 am

WHY I HATE YOU ???

ONLY IN DX9, LOW GRAPHIC, NO ADVANCED OPTIONS, **** !
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:10 pm

We don't hate you, at least i don't. What ever reason would i have to hate a fellow player?
But i do agree, i am kind of disappointed in today's developers that almost completely ignores the PC gaming market. It's understandable to a degree, it's not very cost effective to invest more in a proper PC version but then again, is it really all that matters in this world, the MONEY? Seems so... things like honor and thankfulness are long gone in todays world.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:07 am

Don't blame the console players.. Blame the developers/publishers.

They're just trying to make a living. If all the money was in 'Zynga-like games' (Farmville, Mafiawars and whatnot), that's what they'll put their efforts into.

Make a stand with your wallet, Dice and Bioware are both using the PC as their lead platform (for Battlefield 3 and Dragon Age II respectively) as well as Valve obviously so buy them instead of their console competition if you want to support PC gaming.

I'd also like to say that I'm quite impressed with the 'free' copy of Portal 2 Valve is giving to PS3 users. While some may see it as a betrayal or Vavle trying to appease console players, I see it as a way for them to introduce Steam to PS3 users who might otherwise be unfamiliar with it. I can see it as something that can potentially bring more PS3 users to PC, which for me, as a PC player, is always a good thing.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:34 pm

The reason we hate you is that you're stagnating development.
Because you're "content", nothing will ever change.

We, the PC gamers, then get shafted.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:55 am

because console-rpgs cannot compare to real games like Baldurs-Gate...
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:55 am

because console-rpgs cannot compare to real games like Baldurs-Gate,

because Far Cry Instincts cannot compare to Far Cry...

I personally love consoles, but the devs assume console-players are dumb and lazy so they continue making poor boring games.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:15 am

Make a stand with your wallet, Dice and Bioware are both using the PC as their lead platform (for Battlefield 3 and Dragon Age II respectively) as well as Valve obviously so buy them instead of their console competition if you want to support PC gaming.

I am buying all Blizzard games and i can't wait for DIABLO 3! It will be the greatest game in existence for me! :X :X :*
And i will be buying hl2 ep3 (or hl3 w/e it might be called), which might not take advantage of modern pc hardware, but valve was never a company to make graphic intensive games (although their art design is pretty super). Same for counterstrike 2 IF they won't turn it into a consolised pos gameplay trash.
And i will also buy the witcher 2 and bf3.

About crysis 2, i will take my decision after it hits the shelves. I still can't believe how IGNORED was the pc platform of crysis 2, considering "it is the lead platform". Every day, xbox that and xbox this. FU Crytek!
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:41 pm

WHY I HATE YOU ???

ONLY IN DX9, LOW GRAPHIC, NO ADVANCED OPTIONS, **** !
don't hate console players, hate Crytek instead.

Personally I'm dissapointed with what they made with Crysis 2. Limitations everywhere. Attachments are limited in some weapons (no assault or sniper scope in the SCARAB, no sniper scope in the SCAR or Grendel, no iron sights in the DSG1), Select Fire only available without underbarrel attachments, global preset graphics configs (Motion blur made the demo unplayable for me. Too much blur unable to be removed even in "gamer"), no developer console, not able to host a local/internet MP game, 12 player limit, no sandbox3 confirmed.

I personally hate the one who decided to consolize the game. I mean, it's good to share this game on the three main gaming platforms (if the lower spec platforms can handle it), but only if the PC version doesn't get limited because of the multiplatform. Imagine what would have happened if this game was released for the Wii as well.

I won't buy this game. Not even download it 4 free. I'm really disappointed. And it's too late for Crytek to make any changes. Maybe, if all this is fixed on the next game (Crysis 3 or Crysis 2: Whatever)

I may see a walkthrough video, just for the storyline, like I did with Ass Creed: Brotherhood.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:16 pm

The reason we hate you is that you're stagnating development.
Because you're "content", nothing will ever change.

We, the PC gamers, then get shafted.

The biggest reason for many people is simply this.

Console players are happy with whatever developers and publishers spoon feed them. Look at the CoD fanboys.. they have been playing the same game for 5+ years. They spend a year grinding camo for weapons they dont use and then buy the next annual release on day one to start it all over again.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:43 am

so wait a second, let me get this straight...(and I am a console player)

when I was in Italy I was a competitve shooter. I went to the nationals three times and the TSN offices gave me a lovely competition rig worth a good 1500$. So, while practicing, should I have looked down onto everyone else around me who was using a Beretta 92 or a Parabellum because I had a more expensive piece of gear??

GTFO.


luckily some pc players around here are decent people
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