Decorator Assistant crashes the games : IV

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:33 pm

Well, OBMM didn't find anything, and I've been using http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6021 for quite some time. The last time this happened, it was a conflict w/ the mod http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11182. Is it possible that something from the mod was imprinted on my character, even after removing it? I just finished a clean install, including upgrading to uFCOM. When I summon the DA, it crashes about half the time. And when I unsummon, it crashes 100%.

Even worse, my game is so heavily modded that I no longer get a nice CTD, but rather the whole thing freezes and I'm forced to use the manual reset button :brokencomputer: I tried the 'Remove Bloat' function of Wrye, but was only 13k references, and dropped the save by 1000kb. Only other thing I can think of; is it possible that the grab/lock aspect has an upper limit? I've used the DA http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/Immortal-D/Best%20of%20Oblivion/NewLibrary1.jpg, and that's just 1 book case, lol. Any help is much appreciated, cuz I don't even know where to start working on this bug.

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Masters for: Save 1594 - Zavier - The Testing Hall, Level 18, Playing Time 108.07.32.ess
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]
02 You Are Here.esm
03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]
04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
06 MD_Saddle_Master.esm
07 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]
08 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
09 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
0A VASE - core.esm
0B Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm
0C TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
0D FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0E Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0F HorseCombatMaster.esm
10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.5]
11 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
12 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
15 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
16 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
17 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
18 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
19 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp
1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1C All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]
++ Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
1E Symphony of Violence.esp
1F Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
20 Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
21 Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp
22 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
23 CNRP Bruma4OOO.esp [Version 0.2]
24 CNRP Chorrol4OOO.esp [Version 1.1]
25 CNRP FightersGuild4OOO.esp [Version 1.0]
26 CNRP Cheydinhal4OOO.esp [Version 1.0]
27 New Potions by Tealpanda.esp
28 Reznod_Mannequin.esp
29 Update My Statue.esp [Version 1.30]
2A Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 3.4.3]
2B Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]
2C Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.4]
2D Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.0.2]
2E Hov's Hotkeys.esp
2F Book Jackets DLC.esp
++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
30 Defensive_staves_Immersive.esp
31 GemSword.esp
32 JQ-Amulets.esp
33 LSBSkullWeapons.1.esp
34 Wyrmfang.esp
35 abyss_staves.esp
36 Soul Edge 2h.esp
37 AT Prison.esp
38 Remove Mouse Scroll 1.4.esp
39 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
3A MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
3B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]
3C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
3D OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]
++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]
3E Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
3F FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
40 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
41 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
42 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
43 Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
45 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
46 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
47 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
48 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
49 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4A Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4B Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
4E Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++ VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp
++ VASE - Vanilla SI.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.39c]
4F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
50 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
51 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]
52 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
53 FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]
54 FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
55 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
56 Mage Equipment - OOO.esp
++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]
57 ArmoryLab.esp
58 Biotavion On Water.esp
59 BHC_Expanded.esp [Version 1.2]
5A FuseSnailRacing.esp
5B The Imperial Vaults.esp
5C Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
5D Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
5E Mimics!.esp
5F MountainTower.esp
60 Museum.esp
61 Your_Personal_Museum_Updated-9300.esp
62 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3]
63 The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp
64 UnfathomedTower.esp
65 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
66 WaterloggedTower.esp
67 Cybiades.esp [Version 2.1]
68 CybiadesDungeon.esp [Version 2.1]
69 The Lost Spires.esp
6A Mighty Umbra.esp
6B Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]
6C Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp
++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]
6D road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.4]
6E xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]
6F LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
70 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
71 xulTheHeath.esp
72 MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
73 XulEntiusGorge.esp
74 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
75 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]
76 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]
77 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]
78 mythsandlegends.esp
79 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]
7A xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]
7B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]
7C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]
7D xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
7E xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
7F Mimics-CloudtopMountains patch.esp
80 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]
81 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
82 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]
83 MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
84 xulPantherRiver.esp
85 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
86 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]
87 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]
88 xulBlackwoodForest.esp
89 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
8A KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
8B xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]
8C xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
8D NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp [Version 5.0]
8E Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
8F Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.1]
90 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
91 DecoratorAssistant Unlock for OBSE version.esp
92 DS Less Predictable Respawn.esp [Version 1.1]
93 gardening.esp
94 kikaibookbelts-tail.esp
95 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.0]
96 Leviathan Soulgems.esp
97 Leviathan Trophy Soulgems.esp
++ New_Magical_Staves.esp
98 ReneerNPCNameMod.esp
99 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]
9A PetrifyandStoneSkinSpells.esp
9B RefScope.esp [Version 1.3.0]
9C sr_enhanced_magic_system.esp
9D SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]
9E SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]
++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]
++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]
9F SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]
A0 Wizard'sSpellBook.esp
A1 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
A2 Multiple Enchantments.esp
A3 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
A4 RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
A5 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.4]
A6 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]
A7 Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]
++ Oblivion XP - Journal Mod Patch.esp
A8 Stat Restore.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
A9 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]
AA bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]
++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]
AB bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]
AC bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]
AD bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]
AE bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]
AF bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp [Version 10.0UV-U]
B0 bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]
B1 bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
B2 bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]
B3 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Vanilla.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]
B4 bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]
B5 bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D]
B6 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]
B7 bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]
B8 bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]
B9 SPAWN.esp [Version 0.2]
** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]
++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]
BA Get Wet.esp
BB qazFingerSnap.esp
BC NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9]
BD Bashed Patch, 0.esp
BE Streamline 3.1.esp

» Fri May 13, 2011 12:44 pm

DA is known to have some issues...I do not know what else to say...Have you tried auto book placer, book placement or enhanced grabbing? I only use the latter now, but have used Book Placement as well.

» Fri May 13, 2011 5:35 pm

DA is known to have some issues...I do not know what else to say...Have you tried auto book placer, book placement or enhanced grabbing? I only use the latter now, but have used Book Placement as well.

I am currently using Enhanced Grabbing, but that doesn't allow you to lock items. As for Book Placement, I haven't tried it yet, since it only works on books. Could you (or someone) be more specific about the 'some known issues' part of DA? If anything would get me into modding, it would be creating a fix and/or replacement for the DA. My library is the epitome of my Oblivion fun right now; http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/Immortal-D/Best%20of%20Oblivion/NewLibrary1.jpg http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/Immortal-D/Best%20of%20Oblivion/NewLibrary2.jpg http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg204/Immortal-D/Best%20of%20Oblivion/OblivionLibrary2.jpg

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:48 am

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6021 I really can only say "issues..." People's experience seems to vary. The unlocking issue is supposedly treated if you download one of the two add-on mods that are supposed to give you unlock spells or commands.

» Fri May 13, 2011 2:48 pm

Could I add a small suggestion? Try http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24498 I used redecorator assistant long ago... This one is ultra powerful (allows you to move castle and bridges if you are uncareful) but I've been using this for ages with no issues AT ALL. Provided you read the docs, it's quite robust and ultra-slick, compared to the assistant...