In Depth Look At Settlements

Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:14 pm

I'm having a blast building, can't wait to play the game! :)

My thoughts exactly - I finally went to Diamond city at like level 16.

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Amanda savory
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:38 pm

The settlements I think are a great addition to the game. other than some tweeks on the building, my only complaint is the radiant quests associated with them...I really don't like those and have to wonder if anyone does. I can't see how the settlers manage to get themselves kidnapped regularly with as many turrets I have set up.

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Calum Campbell
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:30 am

This opinion is valid, but like all opinions, it's just yours....

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alicia hillier
 
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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:03 am

The thing about the settlement system that SOME people (ahem) seem to miss is that you are supposed to be role playing a character in a post-nuclear apocalypse world that is struggling to rebuild itself. The last point is critical, as Todd Howard stated: the world is trying to rebuild itself in Fallout, or at least the USA is. What better way to offer immersion to players than to allow them to actually do some of the rebuilding themselves rather than simply handing them developer-made content? Keep in mind that one complaint that was heard/seen for FO3 and FONV was that there was not enough indication of rebuilding, although that made perfect sense for FO3 because Washington DC remained a war zone in constant conflict. In Fallout 4, you, the player, can actually rebuild areas of the Commonwealth (and yes, profit directly from doing so... see below).

Building settlements is a TERRIFIC way to gain XP without constant combat grinding as well as the immersion points mentioned above. You gain XP for anything you create and you wind up creating a LOT of content via settlement construction. Not a lot of XP per item, but you make so many things that you will easily gain several levels without even realizing it. I can easily gain more XP from settlement building than any quest reward - the difference isn't even close. Of course, you can also gather caps and materials this way without combat.

In other words, it is a non-combat option to immerse yourself and ... role play, yes, in a role playing game. It's a critical mechanic for allowing character diversity.

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Alexx Peace
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:15 pm

It would be great if one day people would understand that its a big difference if you say "its a complete waste of time" compared to "for me its a complete waste of time".

I have however spent roughly the same amount of time in my castle than in the rest of the game world and I love it :)

There is A LOT of room for improvement though imho: Glitchy shopkeepers, placement of objects is fiddly, option for no collide and no restrictions would be nice. Other things like object limit and more stuff to build have been (partially) fixed by the awesome mod community.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:34 pm

So I've stored a bunch of walls and floors and have no idea where they went. It was suggested they are then distributed to building inventory just not represented but this is not the case. They are gone. Anyone?
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Annika Marziniak
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:21 pm

Check this out. I stored a bunch of walls and floors and they just disappeared. I read somewhere that they are still in the inventory just not represented by number. For example it says I have one steel but I can still build a bunch of steel walls. Unfortunately this is not the case. One steel was just one steel and I was out of luck. Like they virtually disappeared
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Megan Stabler
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:23 pm

Make sure you look around your settlement area (all area's within the green zone). I've seen objects vanish and not go in to my inventory and then pop up somewhere else when I exited workshop mode, but so far knock on wood (ha!) I haven't lost anything. You can also scrap objects and then they are gone.

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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:00 am

+1 The Settlement thing is fantastic. The modding potentials it opens up are mind boggling.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:20 pm

Thanks Shane. But this was a three story house worth of floors and walls. When I disassembled it to move its location, I stored everything. The question becomes, where do stored walls and floors go???
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Kate Schofield
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:29 pm

When you go to place them you will see a number on the items icon. You still have them you just cannot see them until you go to build again.

As far as I can tell they are specific to that settlement so you will not be able to build them anywhere but in that settlement.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:02 pm

I wish this were true and I read that somewhere but it's not true. They were just gone. I went to build another wall and I had no more steel.
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:04 pm

1. Go back to a save where you have plenty of stuff.

2. Build a ton of junk.

3. Store the junk.

4. Close your workshop mode.

5. Save Game, Quit Game, Reload Game (4 through 5 are optional)

6. Reopen your workshop mode and navigate to the selection icon for the types of junk you stored.

7. Do a screen cap to show that your junk is not there.

8. Send your bug report to Bethesda.

I predict that what you will see is that your junk will be enumerated in the icon for the pieces you made and then stored. If you try to do steps 6, 7, & 8 at a different settlement from the one where you built and stored the junk, it will not work.

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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:18 am

Thank you for that, but it's not junk. It's walls and floors.
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Dona BlackHeart
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:42 pm

Just sux. I'm out of steel now with no house.
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:58 pm

On a side note - am I correct in saying there is no way to name guns in PS4 version? I would really like to name settlers jobs but have no way of doing that right now. Provisioner and named characters are all I've got right now.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:10 pm

Sorry - dont know how to delete posts

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