Destroying The World and Killing LORKHAN...

Post » Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:33 pm

:rolleyes:
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Post » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:34 pm

No need to be embarrassed.
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Kayla Oatney
 
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:39 am

No need to be embarrassed.

Economic as Quimper may be with regard to emoticons, I don't think that one expresses embarrassment. It's a rather fitting reply to your coy dodging of criticism on an insubstantial claim.
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Post » Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:06 pm

When a mortal dies that means simply that their biological function has ceased, as evidenced by the ghosts.
When a god dies that means his divine function has ceased, as evidenced by the rotting Jone and Jode.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:11 am

With further reading I have come to believe that Lorkhan is NOT dead in the way a mortal on Tamri'el will die...perhaps he is half dead?

Yes, half dead. What happens to a god is not the same as what happens to mortals. The Monomyth is clear:


After the world is materialized, Lorkhan is separated from his divine center, sometimes involuntarily, and wanders the creation of the et'Ada.



And then Shor of Shor:


And he took the third by vomiting his own heart into the circle like a hammerclap, guarding his wraith in the manner of his father and roaring at the other tribes



It is pretty clear that the separation from his divine center did not obliterate the entity....


What was left however is not as apparent to me.
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Post » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:36 pm

Economic as Quimper may be with regard to emoticons, I don't think that one expresses embarrassment. It's a rather fitting reply to your coy dodging of criticism on an insubstantial claim.
No, I wasn't 'coy,' and I'm certainly not now. It's impossible the Aldmeri plot and these murders were the same. Talos is still immortal, despite those killings. The Aldmeri plot is removal of Talos from supporting the Wheel. (I gathered that from the reading. On my own.) Those murders weren't the same. Vivec doesn't compare himself and Cyrus to Aldmeri conspirators, in the Sword Meeting, only Cyrus to himself. I took my time to show he could be killed, and he has been, because there's still some doubt he could be. That's all.
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Post » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:42 am

When Vivec and Cyrus killed the Emperor, they did not literally kill the Emperor, though I'm sure you know that. What they did was deprive him of his absolute dominion over all the beauties of the Dawn. Vivec and the ansu are all speaking in metaphor, and there's more to it than that, with a lot of "but also"s and "except that"s, but most crucial is this: in those commens "the Emperor" is invoked as the archon against whom Vivec and Cyrus rebelled to achieve their own actualization. In "To kill Man," Talos is invoked in exactly the opposite sense. These passages have no relation to one another whatsoever.
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