Somewhat, yes, but I still do want destruction scaling (though not on the order of melee/archery with both enchanting and smithing) because it would fix a bunch of destruction "fun" issues. I remember having a blast when I first got my runes spells because I could strategically place them before a fight, or when I got my walls spells for the same reason. I think flames would have been fun to use if I ever got caught in a melee situation. But, as things stand, I am reduced to basically incinerate/thunderbolt spam at my level because all of those spells are now obsolete, and because incinerate/thunderbolt still hit for so little (it takes me 15+ hits to kill a draugr deathlord, and at my level the game considers them not bosses but an average mob to throw at me) even they (incinerate/thunderbolt) aren't fun.

Spell scaling would fix the issue of low damage while giving us access to ALL of our spells again, instead of forcing us to use just one spell over and over. I really don't see how anyone could think this is a bad thing. Combined with other trees and perks, destruction mages would be enjoyable to play again.

I'm starting to think some people are being deliberately obtuse in this regard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLL6BRoKvhc.

LOL! EXACTLY! YOU have the freedom of choice. You don't pick certain skills because you DON'T WANT TO! Same concept here. I guess you can only understand things from your point of view?...

Seriously!! It's like they will personally take damage somehow! Quite funny.

Some people do like to have their own personal play style to be the best after all. :laugh:
Fixing things would break that.

Forgive me for quoting myself...



OP: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1313799-mages-dlc-wish-list/page__p__19754521__fromsearch__1#entry19754521

Have you tried destruction-scaling mods if you have a pc? I have. Guess what? It's not overpowered. You should not speak of things you do not know as fact.

The point that people are making here is that Destruction does not work well as a primary/sole source of DPS for many playstyles. A secondary point is making it more fun to play (in other words, avoiding stunlock/spamming.) I'll skip the latter point to avoid a wall of text.

If you choose to play on Master difficulty and choose to level your character past 40 or so, using Destruction as your primary source of DPS can become tedious to the point ruining your fun. Your only option to increase damage once you have all the spells and perks is Alchemy, and that doesn't increase your damage cap much more unless you start exploiting Enchanting to increase your potion strength.

On the other hand, if damage scaled by skill level so a level 60 character could play at Master difficulty without many problems, it would be completely overpowered for any lesser difficulty setting or character level, and break other playstyles. It would effectively to 4x more damage at Adept than it would at Master, which is pretty substantial.

Scaling damage to the player's level would alleviate this somewhat, but IMO would make playing a Destro mage a very generic experience, with little change in difficulty between level 1 and level 81. Ugh.

I'm leaning more and more to simply wanting more flexible Master-tier spells without any other changes. Give us some ranged, ranged AOE and rune spells for high level use.

It is underpowered compared to pure combat but it operates under the assumption that you're running around with overpowered pets or are able to calm/frenzy entire rooms on-top of dealing damage yourself. Destruction alone is kinda pointless but a theme mage that wields electricity and has 2 storm thralls is a powerhouse.

I play a pure mage using Destruction and Alteration on Master and it's fine. Boring, but fine... boring because, like most games, difficulty should not be about giving enemies more health of higher damage output, but rather it should be about having different encounters/enemy party members.

Wow... Now I KNOW you're full of it. I guess you never saw the videos of what a fully upgraded weapon can do? Or heard the testimonies of others? Or even strait out do the math???

If you are incapable of one-two shotting most things with maxxed weapons at high level using everything available to you as you claim that mages should, then dare I say that "you are doing it wrong"? :rolleyes:

A maxed fortify destruction potion increases damage by 161%. A maxed weakness to element poison increases damage taken by ~100.
Melee dudes aren't the only ones benefitting massively from alchemy/enchanting.

That's pretty interesting since at that level the only spell at your disposal that did frost damage should have been frostbite! You know - the streaming spell that would put you pretty close to that giant and you without stagger... Even with the stamina mechanic, it would not have been enough before he knocked your block off. Even if you somehow managed to defeat it, (which I highly doubt) it would have taken you years to do so with that spell.

Any other tales you care to tell like the time your character took an arrow to the knee?

I use the Fortify Restoration / Alchemy cheat to make insane Fortify Destruction potions. Seriously, I have Fortify Destruction potions that increase the damage of my destruction spells by 200%-300%. I only use them if I get really frustrated though.

There's a fair amount of flaming and off-topic sniping in this thread. I'm not going to read through six pages of this to attempt to unravel it all.

I am going to lock the thread, however.