Examples where it happens to you? I mean, I've done it to my enemies tons of times in ME2 to enemies that were in chest high cover, but it has only happened to me when I was in knee high cover (barely in cover at all). I'm not saying enemies should have a 50% chance to aim correctly when you're in cover or even 10% chance. It should be proportional to the amount of your body exposed and the enemy skill (which would be affected by when in the game they appear and on which difficulty setting).

Another thing I don't like about cover based shooters is that they tend toward "greater difficulty equals greater enemy damage and health" rather than "greater difficulty equals greater enemy AI and skill". The technology is definitely good enough for this so there's no excuse.

Anyway, D3us 3x has a chance to be good even if it's not so good in combat. I liked aspects of Alpha Protocol enough to disregard to atrocious combat (although I cheated through the last part ). I really want to see if their claim that we'll be able to talk through any encounter will come to fruition. Really.

Yay for FPS games becoming envolved in everything, killing off all other game types, thus making videogames fail, honestly I have said before in a few years I may never play games because everything will be another FPS boasting about having the most "realism".

The lead designer actually said Deus Ex was a boring game?

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1097182-deus-ex-human-revolution-discussion/page__st__40

I'm curious what the context of that is. Deus Ex does have a slower pace than a lot of other FPP RPGs and I for one enjoyed that quite a bit, but it's possible he's referring to something else. I have to admit the first level never did a good job of setting the mood for me and some of the down time between missions felt drawn out (although I certainly wouldn't want it cut completely!).

As much as I enjoyed Deus Ex my real concern is Thief 4, however in my opinion the more depressed my expectations are for either game the better off I'll be - if I get excited before release I'll almost certainly set unreasonable expectations which will guarantee my disappointment. In fact, I'm rather worried that Deus Ex 3 will be good because then I'll expect better from Thief 4

I'll merge them together, thanks

forgot about that thread. thanks for merging them.

I'm curious what the context of that is.

Cover system. =/

I hope that all-speech is really viable and not just save-and-reload viable, since the combat will be tedious. =/

Well, the combat svcked in the original Deus Ex, so that's one of the things I'm least worried about.

The main things that worry me are: How well stealth is implemented, how many misc. things there are to read/hear/see (like datacubes, newspapers, talking to NPCs, etc), game length, the quality of the soundtrack, and atmosphere. If they manage to excel in all five of those areas, I'll be very happy. Anything extra, like improved combat and busting through walls, would just be icing on the cake.

Well apparently, you can see through walls and thus take out the enemy from there. So yeah, your icing is there and waiting. You just have to wait for the cake to finish and come out of the oven.

I highly envy your optimism. :laugh:

Oh wait...Replace Soundtrack with Story. I can't believe I left that out. It's definitely more of a priority than the music.

Well, the combat svcked in the original Deus Ex, so that's one of the things I'm least worried about.

The main things that worry me are: How well stealth is implemented, how many misc. things there are to read/hear/see (like datacubes, newspapers, talking to NPCs, etc), game length, the quality of the soundtrack, and atmosphere. If they manage to excel in all five of those areas, I'll be very happy. Anything extra, like improved combat and busting through walls, would just be icing on the cake.