Really? Because they're all pretty [censored] to me. But that doesn't really matter, does it? Who am I to have an opinion after all?

And GOD FORBID I state my opinion.

Opinions can be overestimating or underestimating, even if it is your opinion.

And yours can be as well. My opinion is that BioWare, Blizzard and Valve are all highly overrated developers.

Whether or not you agree with me is your choice, but there is something called respect for others which usually means you don't insult someone for their opinion.

I don't recall insulting you, but if you thought I did I apologize.

Not really no:

Valves only good game is Portal, HL is overrated and boring, TF2 gets updates but its still nothing special, the only other thing people salk about when you manetion vlave is steam, and I dont like digital distribution so yea.

Bioware, their strength is in writing, but they have lore retcons and inconsistencies, the main plao is usually a rehash of the same plot, and the character are usually the same too, and now they just thwor way too much fanservice in.

Blizzard, they have SC and WoW, WoW is just grinding so most people will probablly praise them fro SC.

Mojang a buggy grindfest envolving virtual lego. It will get old and boring very soon.

I took it that way, although perhaps it's the overly vulnerable state I'm in currently taking things out of proportion. Either way it seemed as if both of you were tossing my opinion aside, like a young child trying to contribute to the discussion at the advlt table. I don't much appreciate that.

Well again I apologize.

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I stopped reading when you said this. And you obviously don't understand HL.

Back in the 90's HL basically revolutionized the fps genre.

No I understand its a boring fps, and one that is extremely overhyped.
Its funny people rip into games like halo yet praise HL.

Did you miss this part?

Yet, they are the best. They make the biggest, deepest games available. They give us quality and quantity, which is twice as much as most companies give us.

As a big fan of HL, I never really found anything revolutionary about it. Other than the big narrative and the different points of view with the expansions.

Well, I'd agree with rat and say it's not really a fun game though (reminder: opinion). And if old revolutions count ID would be way ahead of Valve.

Disagree but whatever. :shrug:

I love this competition. I strongly dislike how overrated Valve is, and I love seeing it's [censored] rage.

Several posts have been removed. Let's make sure we keep this discussion civil and on topic, if I have to clean up another mess warnings will be issued to those not following the rules.

How far have you gotten into the game? Also, which game did you play?

The Half Life series is almost painfully linear. The first game at least had the illusion of choice since there were several areas that you'd crisscross through, although this was always along a prescribed path. Subsequent games were even more on the rails, although this was combined with an increased story involvement so I found this more excusable.

I enjoyed the first game quite a lot, at least until Xen. Half Life 2 had too many vehicle sections for my tastes but it was a lot of fun, although a little over-shadowed by the Episodes in my opinion. With the Episodes the heavy story involvement negated the overly linear level design in my opinion, I was stuck on a rail but at least it felt like I had a reason to be on it and stick with it.

The only things I really dislike about ValvE is the ungodly waiting periods.

5 years since HL2 I think? I understand the need for devolopment time but again it's ridiculous.

Indeed, back then. Now however their games are, quite frankly, hollow. Both in writing and in gameplay tbh.

Examples:
Left 4 Dead 1/2: run and gun, spray and pray on everything etc.
Portal: Cool gimmick for the time but that's all it has going for it. The story isn't that great and by that I mean there really is no story.
Half-Life series: Story so complicated there might as well not even be one, let alone the fact that, as Donner said, it is quite linear.
Team Fortress 2: Started out pretty fun, has now devolved into a grindfest for better weapons and stupid hats, Azurik was more fun and felt more rewarding.

Azurik was bad, but had potential, needs a remake.

I will agree that Left 4 Dead is one of their lesser games.
I think that the story in Portal is still waiting to be uncovered. You start off not really knowing what is going on, but later on through the game you get more hints, but a lot of things are still unknown. I think that Portal 2 will shed some light on things.
Half-Life has an amazing story in my opinion, and that is what kept me playing it.It probably had the best story out of any fps I have ever played, granted it is linear, but most fps games are.

I agree that Valve has lost some of their luster with games like Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2, but I think they will be revitalized in the years to come.

He was saying that he doesn't understand why everyone loves HL. I gave him that reason.

Valve is too busy selling virtual hats for $10 each.

Gotta stay on top of the virtual hat market.