Did anyone like President Kimball's speech?

Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:56 pm

Or am I the only one? I thought it was kinda inspiring. For the most of the game I was rather unimpressed by the NCR, and I only sided with them because they were the enemy of the hated Legion. But beyond that there wasn't much to them, just boring bureaucrats, pig headed generals, whining troopers and the occasional badass (yet silly hatted) Ranger. Unlike House and Caesar They didn't have any noteworthy goal or singular ambition for the Mojave, they were just "there for the resources and not much else" as Beatrix said.

But that outlook changed with Kimball's speech: The NCR wasn't a shambling bureaucracy , it was "a beacon whose light shone beyond its borders" and the crucible that carried "the same fire that burned in the heart of the old world that proceeded us." It's soldiers weren't opportunists and cowards, they were "torchbearers moving eastward of the Pacific, into the darkness of this wasted land" and "The waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward" and "the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevadas, defiant and enduring." The NCR wasn't just here for the resources, "it was fighting for equal respect, representation, and protection under the laws of a just republic"

Maybe I've just got a soft spot for good rhetoric, but I thought it was one of the only parts of the game where the NCR actually came off looking halfway respectable, and it really geared me up for the mass scale legion meatgrinding which occurred right after it. What did you guys think? Please refrain from answering if you were one of those Legion scumbags who were so rude as to "interrupt" Kimball's speech. :P
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Alexis Acevedo
 
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:22 pm

2 seconds later

"lets get out of here, you think i want to get shot" (or something similar)

the voice of a true patriot
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Penny Wills
 
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:41 am

Kimball is the personification of the hawkish stance the NCR took in the wake of Tandi's passing.
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K J S
 
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:41 pm

2 seconds later

"lets get out of here, you think i want to get shot" (or something similar)

the voice of a true patriot


Heh, yeah, noticed how I said "Kimball's speech" without referring to the man himself.

Awesome oration, [censored] orator. No doubt :P
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:12 am

You got to hear a speech? I found a bomb before the guy even opened his mouth, and he just took off. How the hell did your quest play out like an episode of The West Wing when mine played out like an episode of 24?
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:42 am

You get to found clues to 'slow down' the assassination;
Spoiler
It seems once the option objective have been tick only the sniper would have a chance to success.


Either way, I get through it, and it sounds like a whole lot of brahmin [censored].
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:00 am

I only heard half of it because i was protecting him and the such. Didn't think it was to bad.
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Kitana Lucas
 
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:56 am

You have to dispose of both the bomb threat and the sniper and not tell the ranger dude in charge of security.
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:56 pm

I got to listen to it, most of it anyway. While it isn't a bad speech, I did not get to hear the whole thing as I was busy keeping him alive.

The NCR believes in Manifest Destiny, which is what helped to settle the American West in the 1800. Not to bad if you were European or American born. If you were native American, not as good for you.

That is kind of the way that I see the events surrounding New Vegas. They would kill every tribal if they could/had to, to get control of NV (and the dam).
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:11 pm

Too busy with trying to find out who the legion assassin was.
And on my Legion playthrough I actually stood among the crowd and kinda panic killed him before he even got to the stage.
That fight might just have been the most challenging one yet with all the Desert Rangers around.
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:09 am

For those interested in reading the speech:

Thank you, Colonel Moore. And thank you, my fellow Californians, who have come so far to answer the call to service put forth by the republic. It is for you that I have come here, and it is because of you that I am able to do so. We enjoy our privileges because you take the greatest of risks and are prepared to make the most noble of sacrifices. It is because of men and women like Private First Class Jeremy Watson that Nevada and the New California Republic remain free and secure.

Born in a tin shack on the outskirts of One Pine, Jeremy Watson never had it easy. His father worked as a caravan guard on the Short Loop, and his mother, like many Californians, braved the ruins of the Old World as a prospector. They suffered through water shortages, raider attacks, and the Brotherhood War. Like our mighty Sierra Nevadas, they endured. But the time came when they could no longer shoulder the burden alone. Twelve years ago, they called out for help, and the republic heard them.

Troopers and rangers, just like you, answered the clarion call. Men and women stepped forward to say, "I will carry the weight." And at Owen's Lake, we made true on our promise, driving out the raider tribes to establish a lasting peace in the eastern Sierra Nevadas. We carried the weight, and though we left behind many of our brothers and sisters on that battlefield, it did not break us.

Ten years ago, Chief Elise met with representatives of the Desert Rangers to discuss terms of what would become the Ranger Unification Treaty. The treaty was more than a resolution to welcome the Desert Rangers into the republic. It was a covenant to protect southern Nevada against Caesar's Legion and the tyranny of his regime.

There are some back home who ask me, "But who are we protecting? What is Nevada to us?" Sometimes we forget that the light of our society shines beyond our borders. Sometimes we take those privileges for granted that our forebears fought so hard to achieve. We must always remember that wherever Californians stand, we carry our principles with us: equal respect, representation, and protection under the laws of a just republic. This was the same fire that burned in the heart of the Old World that preceded us. We are the heirs of that civilization, torchbearers eastward of the Pacific, into the darkness of this wasted land.

When the republic called on the men and women of California to carry that fire across the Mojave, Jeremy Watson answered. You answered. Together, you carried the weight. And when PFC Watson's platoon came under attack at Forlorn Hope, he took the greatest risk, not only for his fellow Californians, but for California itself. He was prepared to make the most noble of sacrifices, to defend the principles of our republic, even here, on Nevada soil.

His actions are a beacon to all of us who stand here today in tribute to his valor. Private First Class Jeremy Watson, on behalf of the senate and people of the New California Republic, it is my honor to present you with the Star of Sierra Madre.

Not far from this spot, a monument stands as a tribute to the sacrifice made by those who came before us, the men and women who fulfilled the promise we made to the Desert Rangers. Its back is inscribed with the names of the troopers and rangers who carried the weight. And because they made the most noble of sacrifices, it did not break us.

Four years ago, we held this dam. Four years ago, we carried the weight. Four years ago, we drew a line through the Mojave as clear as the Colorado River, a line that Caesar cannot cross. Today, you stand here with our brothers and sisters to hold that line. Today, you honor all Californians by carrying that weight. Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevadas, defiant and enduring. You are the great western light of California, torchbearers in the darkness, living reminders of all that is best in our republic.

Thank you. Thank you.
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:39 am

Hey, do you think the NCR has a national anthem?
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:50 pm

I don't know, but a little rewrite of the lyrics and I think this would work well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8UlY8eXCk :hehe: :rock: :rock: :rock:


I am President Aaron Kimball,
The Hawks will rally around the call,
As long as I am President.

Tandi power will soon go 'way,
Vegas will be ours one day,
I will command all of you,
The Dam will be under NCR rule!

California Uber Alles...

The FOA will control you,
100% natural,
You'll dig wells for the master race,
And always wear a happy face.

Close your eyes, can't happen here,
Mr. House on white horse is near,
The hippies won't come back, you say,
Mellow out or you will pay...
Mellow out or you will pay!
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:29 am

Too bad Jeremy Watson had a little "accident" when the c4 in his helmet blew up near the president and no one attacked me :disguise: until I decided to attack them all :gun:
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Post » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:26 am

Hey, do you think the NCR has a national anthem?

Hey, how about this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2qXlCoZuZM&feature=related
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