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Do you mean the securitron vault? He does have the chip with him - if you kill him at the Tops, just take it straight to House (if you are working for him) and it'll upgrade the securitrons. He'll then give you the quest to go to the Legion camp and access the securitron vault there to add more securitrons to his army.
If you don't kill Benny and he runs off to Caesar's camp, you get the chip off Caesar instead (one way or another).

The other vaults have nothing to do with Benny and can be accessed at any time during the game.

Re: Khans - There's a fair amount of content if you look for it, and they can be met pretty early unless you spend a lot of time exploring and doing sidequests before hitting Boulder City. It's not hard to get a good standing with them - just negotiate with them to free the captives and then talk the NCR officer out of following his orders.
You can get a lot of good karma with them for doing Aba Daba Honeymoon (you must complete this before doing Colonel Hsu's quest to find the Ranger in Vault 3) and from helping Melissa. Also, if you are doing Climb Every Mountain for Captain Gilles at Bitter Springs, do NOT take Boone into the cave with you (it's fine if he's your companion - just make him wait outside). I got to Idolised just by doing the above.

Re: Legion - lots of quests for them too. They don't have as many missions as NCR but this isn't their home turf and they're (understandably) not as widely established. However, you can easily take the Legion's side in many quest by sabotaging the NCR, such as at Helios One.

-Lack of trying to survive(it felt like they were doing fine

Hmm, there's a pretty strong argument, given that Fallout and Fallout 2 were set on the West Coast, that FNV is closer to a real sequel and Fallout 3 is more like a big DLC.

Hmm, there's a pretty strong argument, given that Fallout and Fallout 2 were set on the West Coast, that FNV is closer to a real sequel and Fallout 3 is more like a big DLC.

FNV more than met my expectations. I'm an old school gamer - was a games journalist in the 90s so I'm very familiar with the franchise but, quite honestly, I've enjoyed both Fallout 3 and FNV. Of the two, I think I enjoy FNV a little more. Bethesda did a good job with their inherited franchise - the exploration was terrific but there was a little less flexibility with the plot and the (original) end game is the same no matter what you do. I know a lot of people complained because you couldn't really side with the Enclave, whereas FNV has four factions and a little more variety when it comes to finishing the game.

I can't say anything in FO3 gave me the same buzz as wiping out Legion settlements. Razing Caesar's camp with Boone felt epic no matter how many times I did it. On the other hand, I must admit a lot of the Vegas-based quests were a little dull at times (run here, talk to this person, run back there and (6 load screens later) talk to that person, run over here again...ffs give me something to shoot!)

What I liked:

The story. Lots of intrigue and plenty of surprises (at least, the first time through), plus the epic feel of being stuck in the middle of a war.

Companions. These were done better than in FO3. I used them occassionally in that game and I liked a couple of them but spent most of the time solo. Since they didn't have much to say, they didn't really enrich my playing experience and characters like Fawkes are just a liability when you want to stealth around. Although the FNV characters don't have as much development as characters in a lot of RPGs, they have a lot more than in previous Fallout games and I felt more invested in them. The companion quests were a good development, so I'd welcome seeing that return.

Gun modding

Recipes:
True, most of these are only really useful in hardcoe mode, but it was nice being able to make my own chems.

Jury rigging.


What I didn't like so much:

Karma system:
I admit I prefer playing nice characters. I actually feel guilty about doing bad and don't enjoy being a jerk (I never did blow up Megaton in FO3, even on my evil character). However, the option to be bad, or ruthless and mercenary, is pretty important. The problem is that you can demand payment, lie, steal and even eat corpses in front of an audience but all that is wiped out by headshotting a couple of fiends or zombies who are aggressive no matter what your karma level or reputation. Even my Legion character - who brought Cass to Jean-Baptiste and various other nefarious acts - ended up with good karma.
Reputation system works, more or less, but karma just doesn't.

Buggy quests:
I can put up with CTDs as long as they're not excessive, and the fact FNV does it from time to time didn't surprise me at all because FO3 actually did it a fair bit too.
What isn't so great is some of the quests being a bit buggy (maybe due to scripting issues), since this affects the actual game a lot more. Worst offender is We will all go Together but I've had issues with things like Raul's final dialogue not firing and thus missing out on his perk (on a character I later abandonned - Raul worked perfectly on my next character) or Boxcars not having any dialogue in relation to Wheel of Fortune. This stuff bothers me a lot more than the odd CTD.

Repetitive quests: FNV does have some really good quests, but there are quite a few that could have been a lot better. There are three different quests where you are required to heal injured people. I don't mind healing them, but exactly the same thing three times? C'mon. Add to that all the Vegas quests where you are acting as a go between, with a lot of load screens when you run from one person to another...The Carlitos/Joana quest is absolutely the worst, especially as every time you want to talk to her, you have to follow here as she walks v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y to her room.

The DLC. I've played through it twice, now, so I can look at it pretty objectively. The back story was interesting but the whole setting was gloomy and I missed the Mojave both times I was there. The beeping collars and holograms were annoying rather than challenging and the fact that technology might resurface in another DLC (Christine talks about the tech coming from the Big Empty) doesn't please me much. I did like the companions, but I missed my other companions and didn't like having to leave them behind. Mostly, I didn't feel that there was a strong enough reason to leave what is basically a war in which my character is a big player to check out some casino in the middle of nowhere.

Personally, I prefer DLCs that are integrated into the main game (the Mass Effect 2 DLCs being a case in point - you can do them at any point during the main plot without leaving your companions behind - or the Knights of the Nine DLC in Oblivion) rather than those that take you away from the plot and main game area. I felt the same way about Point Lookout in FO3 - it had a lot of good reviews but as long as I was there, I couldn't wait to get back to the Capital Wasteland as I felt very uneasy being away from the main plot. (I really did like the Pitt, though. That contains one of the strongest moral dilemmas I've come across in the game, and thus made quite an impression).

Still, at least the FO3 DLCs gave you compelling reasons to go (rescue some slaves or search for a woman's missing daughter) rather than pure curiosity. I hope the next few FNV DLCs will have better intros, so to speak. And of course I will get them regardless, because I am a big svcker like that.

Umm i think you got that wrong...F3 a big DLC?? Umm no. More like FNV was a big DLC.

what your saying is true and i agree but plz dont make this into an arguement because i dont want the topic to be stoped. thank you :angel:

hardcoe mode: dehydration should have been more of a threat. It's a desert, after all. The FANTASTIC, WONDERFUL thing about hardcoe mode was that stimpacks did not instant-heal. That meant that combat felt a little less stupid. Otherwise, hardcoe mode was a bit of a missed oppurtunity.

I all reality no it did not. Coming into this series during fo3 I was spoiled with a rpg/action adventure/stradigy/survival horrer/open world shooter, with a story line that made me feel in the game. The detail that went into the DC area was great. There was never a lack of things to do, and the single ending provided room for a dlc that showed me the short term success of what my people had accomplished.

In fonv I was expecting more of the same. I did not get that, what I got was an open world rpg. Very little was added in for "mindless exploring" Too many buildings r boarded up, places I can go into that r not involved with any quests are not worth going to. The freezing and choppiness past 8500kb of info have made me not want to play it all any more really. The 27 endings ruined the feel of it for me. They r flawed and feel cheap. CL is the weakest fighting force I have seen in 24 years of playing video games. All that being said I still have over 500hrs of game play in it and it was a goodgame

this is just a short reply and i did read all the things you wrote but what i most like is how you said you were a games journalist in the 90s so could you tell me plz how has fallout series changed over the years if it has even changed at all { meaning story ,the way its being ,made are the producers of the game putting as much effort in now and that sort of stuff thank you}

West Coast is doing fine thanks to the Vault Dweller and Chosen One, thats because they arent trying to survive, because the dont need, it a peaceful place, sorta, but not a warzone like Capital Wasteland ,since it is infested with Raiders, Mutants and others creeps

what did you like the best about the game :fallout:

Blimey, well that's a subject for an essay. Essentially, FNV has a lot of the spirit of the original games in so far as you can explore, do sidequests or concentrate on the main quest if you wish. However, a lot has changed in terms of technology, the way games are made and the state of the games industry in general. The industry as a whole has grown more corporate. The very first company I went to visit was Bullfrog, in order to do a preview of Syndicate. That game was pretty much designed on the back of a napkin in McDonalds (and it was an awesome game). Today, for a project the size of FNV, you're looking at a 1000 page design document. Games are hugely complex these days and most are no longer made by one company alone; (game engines, physics engines, facial animation software, mocap software, radiosity lighting tech...etc etc...are licensed from third parties and plugged into the game). Artwork, Q&A and Localisation are often outsourced. Voice acting is now the norm these days and actors have to be hired, recorded and directed. Producing a game now, as opposed to producing a game in 1997 (when Fallout came out) is somewhat akin to juggling flaming chainsaws whilst wearing rollerskates. Bear in mind, also, that most big projects will have a Senior or Exec Producer, some Associate or Assistant Producers, maybe a Project Manager and (in most cases) an External Producer who works for the publisher (Bethesda in this case). It's a whole other ballgame.

As for how it's changed...well if you go back to Fallout, the graphics are very basic and very brown, and combat is turn-based and a lot more strategic (although VATS is there - the difference being that you could shoot people in the eyes. Nice). Companions in the first game didn't talk and had no real personality. You couldn't even trade items with them - if you gave them something to hold, the only way to get it back off them was to buy it back. That was obviously annoying and was changed in Fallout 2 where the characters also developed a little more personality (although not much by today's standards). But, as I said, a lot of the spirit of the original games is still there, albeit in an evolved form.