In your Oblivion game, if you enter the underlair of White Gold Tower, of olde the capital palace of The Ayelid empire, you will find what can only be considered the tools of giants. A giant's club, a giant's throne, a giant crystal ball, and of course, the giant hourglass which activates the Passage of THe Old Way. It would seem that the Old Way and the Hourglass of Ages which activates it, date back to the time of The Ayelids (note the Ayelid sentinels who act as guardians in THe Old Way passages). The Club alone suggested perhaps that the ancient Cyrodillic Elves had taken trophies of conquest. . . but some of the other items, the Crystal ball and hourglass in particular, have more the air of diplomatic gifts. Are their giant mages btw? Just a query.

Those were just easter eggs.

I never saw anything saying they were easter eggs? I've never seen any explanation at all for the giant items actually.

Always wondered why the things in there were so huge, this might be an explanation. But since I'm not a loreguy, I can't confirm anything.

Calling all loreguys! lol

Well all things considered, i must agree, the giant throne and hourglass do suggest some kind of lore
behind it, and with the Giants introduction to this game.
(which by the way, has never been implemented in Elder Scrolls before)
It opens up many possible doorways.

I'm guessing that there will be your average-joe Giant....but some will have great power and are
foes to be reckoned with.
Many secrets may be uncovered, but it it is quite uncertain whether or not it has to do with that room.
I would however, not be surprised if it DOES have some connection with the Empire, though i doubt
whether or not they will allow us to solve the mystery.
As it seems that Besthesda has realized the usefullness of not-answering questions about a race
so as to keep them more mysterious and exciting.

Very intersting..... I don't think the giants of Skyrim are quite big enough to use the objects found in the basemant of the White Gold Tower, but still, that's a really interesting connection you've made. I think you're on to something.

How tall do you think the giants of the trailer are? I was thinking 8-10 feet, but the giants that would use those objects in the White gold tower would be like 50 feet tall. I mean, look at that club! What do you guys think?

nvm...

Thanks, I don't know if the questions will ever be answered, but here is to hoping. As to the giants size. . . I didn't see it in relative comparison, but it looked HUGE. Much larger than the ogres, who were in the 8 foot range, and larger than the Xivallai, who also seemed somewhere in the 8 to 9 foot arena (when compared against my Altmer, who stood, somewhere between six and 7 feet if comparisons to Imperials and Nords are a good indicator, and the average Nord is in the 6 foot range). I would hazzard that these giants look to be somewhre between 15 and 25 feet in height. Big enough, I think, to wield the club. Big enough to use the crystal ball, and Hourglass, but NOT large enough for those items to be as small compared to the giants as their normal counterparts are compared with humans and Elves. The throne. . . I don't know. Have to get a second look. Maybe a giant could sit in it like Edith Ann (Lilly Tomlin) used to in that oversized yellow rocking chair.

As of right now, there's never any explanation given as to why there are giant items in the Imperial Palace. Even under speculation, there really aren't any solid theories as to what they are and why they're there. All we know is the giant hourglass opens the path to the Old Way.

No, they're a reference to Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, hence the name of the hourglass. The giants never had political ties to the Ayleids.

Why would there be easter eggs in a non-secret quest?

"Oh yeah we'll just shove you into those easter eggs there."

@OP: I think that yours is the best hypothesis.

Do we know the giants never had dealings with The Ayleids? Your evidence?

Easter eggs/references are in-your-face all the time. Lucien Lachance is an easter egg, for example, as a reference to Lucien Lacroix.

Also, to answer the OP, as has already been said, the items are too big to be of practical use to a giant. Giants aren't that big. They're about 1/3 larger than the other races on average. There's also no indication that they had any relationship with the Ayleids.

I don't know. The giants in the trailer looked plenty massive to me. And I hear they keep company with mammoths. Until I see the actual size in comparison, it will be hared to say. As to the lack of indications. . . well, nor is their any refuting of the possiblity. And that is why I ask. I want to know that which has not been answered. :wink_smile:

from where do you here they keep company from mammoths exactly?Also what proof do you have they DID have dealings with the alyeids? Look at the picture he obviously isnt that big,the alyieds enslaved every other race so the giants would have been slaves. None of the books on alyeids mention giants you wonder why?The alyieds didnt have anything to do with giants.

They were in Daggerfall and they weren't that big. And honestly, they didn't look that big in the trailer either.

Todd Howard said that the Giants would have Mammoths in their company during one of the interviews that someone posted here. One of the German site interviews, I believe.

He looks quite large in the only picture I have seen of one.

And I do not have proof. But I never said that I did. Even the title of the post is posed as a question. I don't know one way or the other, but the fact that there are legitmate giants in Skyrim, and the presence of giant sized Items in the ancient capital palace of The Ayelids makes me wonder.

And there really arent that many books on the Ayelids. There are some, to be sure, scattered througought the Oblivion game. . . but there isn't a comprehensive enough history to know who they did and did not have dealings with during the entire span of their millennia of rule in Cyrodil. Virtually nothing is said of what their relations were with Morrowind or Skyrim, Valenwood or Elswyr. And as most of the books about them were written by the enemies who eventually defeated them, it may be expected that those texts are not only biased, but may be lacking in many of the interior details.

My question is exactly that. A question, not a declaration. If you have hard evidence that answers in the negative present it. I must say, I don't know why you are taking a snippy tone over an innocuous inquir. :confused:

In one of the articles from a few weeks back the writer mentioned that the giants seemed to be at least 15 feet tall, and possibly over twenty. The bigger the better I say.

Wrong, Giants were in Daggerfall

If you look at the club on the giant in the trailer and the screenshot you can see the club is just as big. Many articles said the Mountain Giants in Skyrim were 3 to 4 times taller then an NPC so that 6x3 or 6x4= 18 to 24 feet tall. You know 6 feet is the average human height or atleast for the human NPC's in TES escpically the Nords. Also in the screenshot you see a giant standing and it looks half as tall has one of the pine trees so thats taller then 10 feet! :deal:

And not 50 ,OP you are searching for something that is there,we cant disprove you you know why?There is no reason to believe what you do and its just so dumb there is really no way to disprove it just like at in on page 2 http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/media/ does it honestly look big enough for the stuff in the white gold tower.No.

All right. So now we have more support for the "giants are really big in Skyrim" end of things. Big enough, I think, to hold the club that we see in the basemant of The Aylieds ancient tower of White Gold. Large enough for the hour glass and the crystal ball, though they would not be exact scale to their smaller counterparts typically seen used by more normal size wizards (though that means little. The Witch in The Wizarad of Oz had an ENORMOUS crystal ball). Possibly large enough to sit that giant chair.

They could be the write size. But is their any real connection to things past? Just curious.

In an interview with Todd Howard he said that Giants stick with Mammoths and protect them against wolves also in the Spanish magizine it spoke about side quest and you might come across a giant defending its Mammoths against Frost Trolls or Bears so yea they are big enough to handle Mammoths like the humans handle dogs :goodjob:

Yes you're right and in Oblivion the tallest enemy was the Minotuar Lord and it was 8 to 10 feet tall and its smaller cousen- the regular Minotuar so I'm thinking there will be diffrent skins or types of giants like there was with other creatures in the past TES.