People, people just bring out the youtube links. Better than still images.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_DmrgSorg0&feature=related

Actually, my first look I kinda agreed. The first water I seen was the waterfall, and it looks kind of... bland? Not sure what word to use. But then again, what game does have good waterfalls? I don't know of any. And in one of the pics with a Skeleton/Zombie warrior, you can see a pool of water in the cave, and it looks awesome. So the white water, could use some work imo, but I won't complain. The still water looks awesome. I'm actually awed by how amazing the graphics were. imo, comparable to Gears Of War, and the fact its on a massive scale, means its that much better



Yeah, I'll agree there, but the problem I'm seeing is that in Skyrim, it didn't really move too hostile. The water. I kind of imagine it moving a bit faster, and it just flows in a straight path, it doesnt collide against the rocks on the side at a curve or anything. But however, like I said, show me a game that does it is a game people.

The reason why this is a glaring issue from the trailer is because everything else looks so good. Its like having an amazing car only to see a small scratch on the side door. It hopefully is fixable…it not…don’t show that stuff in a trailer.

Honestly, I thought the water fall looked better than OB or MW water.

You've done well here.

That said I don't think the water looks that good even at 1:44 like someone keeps banging on about. However I don't think it needs much to improve it - in terms of the waterfalls/rapids its just needs to be more reflective.

it would be cool if you could drink the water....

I didn't even really notice this until people brought it up, but now that you guys mention it the water looks pretty bland. Not terrible though. Just...unimpressive.

The trailer is using 2005 Hardware. The year is 2011. Do the math.

I still think you could easily walk on that water. Without using any Alteration spell.

Wow looks like PC modders have a lot of work to do to bring the game up to PC standards of graphical fidelity.

True, Morrowind's was more like this:

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/medium/2007/11/Morrowind_Dx8.jpg

The biggest problem with the river water is the lack of particle effects. The water just looks like a conveyor belt because there's not enough splashy water particles. Also in the bottom you can clearly see the seam where the conveyor belts "join", which breaks the illusion of flowing water. =/

the water u saw was fast moving. i dont think u could get ridiculosly textured and realistic fast moving water at this time. look at 1:27 of the video and thats the slow moving standing water. in the video they were showing off how the water actually moved at some pretty high speeds and looked good doing it.

Who cares about the water....FIRST MOD MADE WILL PROBABLY BE A WATER REPLACER. PROBLEM SOLVED....

Has anyone looked at the 720 quality version of the video around 1.35 - 1:38 seconds and seen the runnign water along the cave floor? It's obvious they have used the same textures as the waterfall but for some reason it looks 1 million times better and frankly quite realistic!

Anyone noticed this?

I know the recent XBLA game, Hydrophobia, had moving water with physics that interacted with objects and could move quite fast.

The problem with the Water in Skyrim is that the texture is too "Flat" and plain looking.

Water is not a solid object, it should have moments of impact, water gushing up, crashing against rocks, etc. It shouldn't look like a solid moving object.

I thought the graphics were pretty good, and overall good.

The trailer was amzing in itself.

Precisely. The rapids need a dynamic surface texture and some particle physics for the splashes. Shouldn't be too hard considering the other features we've seen elsewhere in the trailer.

It looks great. It is a RAPID waterfall and therefore should look white and foamy like that.

You should change it to Water's Raft.... Because the water didn't look to bad... Just the Raft....

Ohhh and i thought that this was the only bad thing in the trailer...

I don't see a raft?

The more I look at the water, the better it gets. At first glance its rather odd looking, but there are small details here and there that are realistic. And the white water look it has is pretty good, the only thing it needs is more water splashing up and around.

If people are really up in arms about water, then I don't want to know the reaction when there is something that really sticks out like a sore thumb.

Is that really all you got out of the trailer, people? OH water looks dumb. That is why i haven't been in the Skyrim discussion as much as i would like to. Because there are 5 page threads about a 2 second clip of water.

It's white water everyone. It's supposed to look like that.