http://www.zeldauniverse.net/images/games/oot/skulltulas/037.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/Arakhor/Venyarin%20crusades%20once%20more/Venyarin25.jpg

https://gallery.nerdclub.net/d/8173-2/waterfall3.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5401/rivere.png

You be the judge.

I'm going to jump into that water over and over again to spite those who hate it.

Heck, I'm going to have a Water-Spirit worshiping character, just because of this thread and similar complaints. I'll make a mod with a shack near rushing water, and have random NPCs that walk up and say "This looks awful". They'll be the sacrifices to appease my Water God.

It really doesn't look that bad, and now the river demands souls. You have yourselves to blame, for the shame.

I would agree, but tone down the waves and it would work for a lake or river. I just don't think water look solid like it does in the video

I was just impressed by the fact that the river flows.

http://www.salvationarmysouth.org/spiritualformation/images/white%20water%20rapids.jpg http://giveattentiontoreading.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/white-water-rafting.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5401/rivere.png

Water isn't at all clear in rapids, they did fine.

I very rarely complain about graphics but hell, http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4884/skyrimwater.jpg

The skyrim one wasn't a good comparison. Go take a screenshot of 1:44 sec for the actual water. My computer is messing up right now so all my screens I try to take and post here are all low res and terrible.

This is just ridiculous. I remember the same near the release of black ops. Everyone was like, I'm not gonna buy the game. Graphics svck. First of all, graphics own. Secound, It doesn't play ANY role. And least, The game have got half a year before release. Don't you think ANYTHING will be improved during that time?

It really isnt that bad. I mean, I doubt this is going to be a common sight, plus it doesnt actually look terrible, just last gen. I dont really mind

I see the point about the water. everything else looks amazing. i love the clouds and dust.

Water looks fine to me. I'm not sure what everyone's complaining about.

I agree. The rapids looks awful, even (sadly) kind of breaks the awesomeness of the trailer. I don't even know why Bethesda put it in the first place...

But water jumps aren't good either. Their watter effect suffers from almost the same than the rapids, and the water it spouts is way too straight and unnatural-looking.

I hope, I REALLY hope Bethesda does a pretty complete overhaul to all water graphics from here to release. It'd be a dissapointment if not.

If the water you think of came from a glacier it would look like that (gray-ish)

The Morrowind one was unfair as Morrowind had reflective water but its turned of in that screen shot.

In the end, water has never been particularly great in TES games anyway thats not their forte.

Yeah. There are glaciers in the middle of a forest...

And anyway, even if that water would come from a glacier, it's still low-res, repetitive and TOTALLY opaque. Just ugly.

I say relax and just give them some time.

Seriously.

Actually, someone link me a video with better rapids than what you saw there on the console please. I really want to see this.

It amazes me how people ignored the waterfalls in Markarth, ignored the river in the town with the water wheel, ignored the water in the scene where the guy got stabbed by the river side and ignored the waterfall in the cave where there were undead but all people remember is the rapids, which actually looked good for rapids. Rapids aren't water in video games. It's a different moving mesh than is used in the actual water. Go through the trailer again and look for water and see that the water is great looking, not bad looking...



There is a reason why it's white and opague...THEY ARE WHITE WATER RAPIDS! They are supposed to be opaque. Is real life terrible because you can't see through the water in rapids?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfHn4Z7h_5s&feature=related

Exactly. You cannot see through rapids.

Those aren't white water rapids. Anyone else?

Visually, yeah it doesn't look that good. One thing to remember though is that unlike most games, the water in Skyrim will actually have a current and force behind it, so if you go into those rapids, you'll be swept away.

I hope that visually it's upgraded, however if I had to choose upgraded or having things that play with the physics of the water, being able to use small boats/rafts, etc to get around, I'd go with that.

Update: http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k352/Driver1830/Skyrim_waterfall.jpg?t=1298575508

Water still is more white that I'd like. And anyways what I complaint the most are the water spouts that they're originated when water breaks with the terrain. Way too irreal.



Look man, I still have to see running water that has NOT some degree of transparency. The only "water" that is totally opaque is frozen ice. Water is transparent by nature, it's A FACT.

And water running though A FOREST is in NO WAY as frozen (full of ice shards) as to be opaque.

And I repeat, it still looks oversaturated, plain, low res and repetitive. Even if you insist that there could be rivers made of snow cones.

I think this one is a bit more visible

http://cdn.zenimax.com/akqacms/files/tes/screenshots/Markarth01_wLegal.jpg

Definition of Whitewater: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_oov8Hoy8H2E/THZn90SEhpI/AAAAAAAAAdM/qZIsy0NN6As/s1600/white-water-rafting-experience.jpg

http://www.roncastle.com/images/river-valley/grade-5-white-water-rafting.jpg

http://www.soulmedicinejourney.com/whitewater.jpg

Whitewater is WHITE, or mostly so, and cannot be seen through.