I have 2 questions which I need to discuss for the sake of lore for my mod, I want the lore to be as flawless as possible.

1. Among the Aedra, Daedra, or any of the et'Ada is there a record of a Diety of Forgiveness? Or who would be closest to one.

2. Also are there any records of the family of Tiber Septim, in particular how his father and grandfather died?

1. Stendarr for the Imperials, Stuhn for the Nords.

2. Nope. He came out of obscurity as one of Chulecains generals, but the spin he put on his supposed Atmoran origins would have destroyed what ever information was still lingering.

Here is the story that I have coined as part of the larger story for my mod. This would be one chapter in its rich history. The father of Tiber Septim left before his son was born to follow a certain path to glory. My mod suggests/hints heavily that he became the Unknown Knight who protects armour created by the et'Ada at the same time that Mundus came into being.

Tiber Septim then comes along as a general. At some point before he joins the Divines he discovers the entrance to the tomb complex which he believes his father entered. If his father succeeded i his quest then he became the guardian of the armour, replacing an Aldmer who has protected it since the Middle Merethic Era when it was sealed away. If he failed then his corpse is still somewhere in the tomb.

He is presented with a choice; he can enter the tomb or leave and never return. If he enters he is not permitted to ever leave and must take up the mantle of the Unknown Knight, that is if he can defeat the current one, who perhaps is his father.
In the end he decides to leave and follow his own destiny and leaves his fathers past vowing never to speak of it to anyone.
Now the reason we know this is because at the entrance of the tomb complex is a High Elf (Altmer), [although I would have prefered an Aldmer I don't have a model to go on to make one] called The Caretaker. You must first prove your mettle by defeating him in combat to gain the privillage of entering. Tiber Septim defeated him and gave him the choice. He tells Tiber that he is only the third person in history to have bested him. The last a human who entered the tomb not long ago by his reckoning, since he is so old. Tiber Septim asumes it to be his father.
The first person who defeated him was the original Aldmer Unknown Knight, second Tiber's father, third being Tiber himself (the only one who didn't enter), and eventually the player when they play the mod. So it is inevitable that they will fight and kill the father of Tiber Septim.

Oh and another thing, the tomb was built around the same time as the White Gold Tower. When you exit you are teleported back there. (I know, how can you exit if you may never leave? I have to come up with a loop-hole somehow). The tomb is underneath the tower. Even lower than the Old Way. Is this lore breaking. Could i hazard to even say that the White Gold Tower was a defence against the tomb being opened again?

Just so you know, an aldmer wouldn't look that much different from an altmer.

I'll call him an Aldmer in that case. That pleases me.

If anyone has a moment I would appreciate any comments on the other facets of the story. Thanks.

I hope to make Confession boxes for the Chapel of Stendarr. You will have you sins/bounty forgiven for a quarter of the bounty value. The Church will be raking it in.

I'd actually try Zendar, Stendar doesn't seem to be the sort of god that lets you get off that easily.

Okie dokie then, I'll brush up on my reading on Zendar, and tell you how I fare.


Edit:
Did you mean Zenithar, I can find no information on a Zendar (unless it is a different name which I don't recognise).

Stendarr sounds like a merciful sort. But if bandits were shirking their bounties he may not appreciate it. He seems to fit well on the whole though. I was thinking of introducing a temple run shelter for the homeless of my new city. Of course the player has to finance it, but the reward is the gift of forgivenss when they come to the temple. Stendarr sounds as if he fits the bill, but I'll wait for an update on this Zendar character.

The Reguard book that contained the PGE 1st ed. had a section where fan letters were being answered, and one response from a dev was that Tiber Septim was "Atmoran".

Doesn't this pretty much conclude further debate about the subject?


___TWM

So his "Atmoran" (sorry, I'm still only familiarising myself with these terms) background leaves any back story as a possibibility. Atmora is now deserted so...I can contrive my own legend without fearing conflicting with facts. All the same does my story sound plausable, I spent a time contemplating it.

TWM:

Pfft. Propaganda to appease the Nords.

The Real Neraverine:

It's indeed Zenithar, not Zendar.

I'm sure that many loremasters who have a much greater understanding than me, such as proweler, Nalion, Albides, Wierd, etc. (I'll claim a TIE with Brian S :slap: ) will disagree with my opinion that Tiber Septim's heritage is Atmoran, especially in light of the alternate theories.

But personally, I took that dev statement to be pretty conclusive, and I even went a step further and settled on King Wulfharth being that Atmoran. :bowdown:

Anyway, do as thou wilt. That's the great thing about TES lore; there's really no wrong way to do it.


Yours in the Scrolls,


___The Word Merchant of Julianos


edit: just saw proweler's response. Told ya he'd likely disagree. :dance: He probably won't be the last either. And as for you, prow, my Tiber's bigger than your Tiber....whip 'em out and we'll measure. :rock:

IIRC, Tiber's direct bloodline ended with his (grand?)son, Pelagius I. His brother's daughter, Kintyra I, succeeded Pelly after he got on the wrong end of an http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Dark_Brotherhood's blade

You had a mistake there Word Merchant. I fixed it.

I've got a cyber-Tiber for you too, Hermy hugger! :flamethrower: