DirectX 11 in Skyrim is in/out?

Post » Sat May 21, 2011 3:22 pm

DX11 support is one of those things that, if its there, great, awesome, who doesn't like progress? But if its not, it wont kill the game at all.

I honestly cant imagine it NOT supporting DX10, but as it is DX11 is a stretch and IMO rather pointless for the most part unless it takes advantage of tesselation. Though, as much as I would love that, I would literally bet money on it not supporting DX11 at all. TES6 and/or Fallout 4, whichever comes first. I can see those games having DX11.

@Skingrad: Indeed, Minecraft already has mods for allowing normal mapping and parallax mapping. Really the only thing left is Bloom and/or HRD and dynamic shadows. That would just be amazing.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:09 am



@Skingrad: Indeed, Minecraft already has mods for allowing normal mapping and parallax mapping. Really the only thing left is Bloom and/or HRD and dynamic shadows. That would just be amazing.



IF this becomes reality... OMG!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjhtjDnneLQ
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 4:51 am

IF this becomes reality... OMG!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjhtjDnneLQ

In time, I pray.

Graphics may not make the game, but then again, notch isn't making these mods, who what does it matter? XD
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 4:47 am

My current graphics card does not support Direct X 11, and even if it did, I'd still need to get Windows 7 to use it, so, with the current situation, I wouldn't be able to benefit fromr Direct X 11 even if Skyrim supported it (Which I don't expect it to, but we'll see.) still, it would be nice if the game supported it, so long as Bethesda was not foolish enough to not include the option to play the game without it. When I do upgrade to Direct X 11, and I'm sure I will because I have no dillusions that my current hardware is going to be able to play all games I want to, even if at the sacrifice of graphics quality, forever, when that happens, of course I'll want to be able to take advantage of the benefits it grants. If I can play Skyrim whenever I am able to upgrade to a Direct X 11 card and an OS that supports it, and see that the game looks better than it ever could before, it will be nice. Moreover, having Direct X 11 support by default would likely allow modders to benefit from some of the effects it allows, thus allowing future graphics mods to do things without using any external programs or other mods what might otherwise require a Skyrim Graphics Extender to do, if it would be possible at all. Still, Direct X 11 options are one of those things that would be nice to see, but I don't really need to enjoy the game, for now, lack of Direct X 11 graphics aren't going to stop me from enjoying the game, fortunately. In the end, I like good graphics, and certainly wouldn't complain about being able to have a game that both looks good and plays good, but I don't need Skyrim to be the best looking game on the market to enjoy it.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 8:29 am

I SERIOUSLY doubt there will be dx11 support.
It would be nice, but it's not the kind of thing Bethesda focuses on, and its not really the thing we WANT Bethesda focusing on.
Nothing in the trailer really displays any trademark of dx11, and since it's also being designed for consoles which obviously don't support it, it's extremely unlikely.
I'd rather them spend the time on gameplay and/or atmosphere, as I expect they're already doing.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 4:10 am

I'm suprised how many people already have DX11-capable cards, yet there are only a handful of games that make use of it.
But I guess it's almost impossible to buy a new card that doesn't have DX11 support. I'll get a new one as well before Skyrim comes out, and it's not really a question whether I want it to have DX11 or not - that's a given.

Implementing DX11 shouldn't put any strain on their development. Tessellation might require a bit more work, but I wouldn't mind a later DLC for that.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 10:13 am

Obviously Skyrim Will Support DX11 and Ofourse you will somewhat have to buy a New PC, what are the New 500 Cards for. :P

I have a Geforce 260 and Just Cause 2 that Supports DX11, yet People are telling me that i need a DX11 500 type Card, because the DX11 on the 260 Card, is Fake. :brokencomputer:

Having Win7 is Very Important yes, but you Need a DX11 Card that Skyrim needs. ;)

The other day i was running a Systems Requirments Lab Test on a Game that is 2 Years Old (Dirt 2) and it tells me already that i need a New Intel Board and a 500 Card. :facepalm:
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:02 am

Dragon Age 2 is a horrible example because it's a straight console game. DX11 does nothing for it. look at Metro 2033 or Call of Pripyat to actually see tessellation and contact shadows and all that neato stuff at work.


Dragon Age 2 is maybe one of the worst optimized/ported games I've seen in a while. The FPS it has for the level of detail it offers is just pathetic. Even Crysis at the same resolution and max detail offers more FPS, and that having to render an entire jungle.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 7:39 am

Agreed; if you're going to use Windows (and I understand if you don't want to, but it's pretty much necessary for gaming) than there isn't ANY reason not to use Windows7.



It's a little thing called "money". why upgrade to a new OS when the old one works just fine and only a handful of games actually take advantage of DX 11? I swear, I never understand people on these forums that seem absolutely astounded that some people use older tech. Not sure if it's because they are teenagers and mommy & daddy buy everything for them, or if they just think all advlts have money to burn, but whatever it is, it gets a bit annoying to be honest.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:45 am

If you can't spend 100 if that on a W7 after 10 years i think you need to rethink what and where you spend your money... the economy is bad and all but I am able to buy save for a new rig on unemployment...
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 3:40 pm

Its not just buying an OS upgrade, there are issues with updating a lot of drivers for old hardware and the expense of upgrading professional software for those of us who use their PCs for work as well as play. In some situations the knock-on costs can be quite prohibitive.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 6:27 am

Great poll. Lots of options that make sense.

I think the Dx11 guys are over represented. According to the steam survey only 5.6% have Dx11 GPU + win7 and ~16% have Dx10/11 + win xp. I think the poll is a little skewed at this point.

Nevertheless, I have a 4870 and it still chugs along quite well. I am going to completely upgrade my PC later this year so I will be part of the Dx11 minority.

I think Skyrim could be much greater if it used Dx11. Elderscrolls games always push the technology and I would love to see this game use new tech. I am a little pessimistic though. I don't think we will have many bells and whistles but I have been wrong before!
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 3:27 pm

I'm running with 3 way SLI with gtx 580s atm in my desktop. I built the desktop sometime in January when I decided I wanted overkill for Skyrim and all my mods. I hope that Skyrim will have DX11.
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 10:37 am

I'm running with 3 way SLI with gtx 580s atm in my desktop. I built the desktop sometime in January when I decided I wanted overkill for Skyrim and all my mods. I hope that Skyrim will have DX11.


I always wonder how a system like that would affect one's power bill. Pretty awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgS67BwPfFY

This video is what modern PCs are capable of running on a system like yours.(That's being rendered in real time) ;P

The next-gen consoles are going to make a huge difference, imho.

Explanation(IGN explains the vid):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq1wUEkkEw8&feature=related
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 11:20 am

I always wonder how a system like that would affect one's power bill. Pretty awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgS67BwPfFY


......wow.

The next-gen consoles are going to make a huge difference, imho.


I hope so. The more difference they make, the more margin they'll leave for cross-platform games to work well on PCs.
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 10:45 am

I always wonder how a system like that would affect one's power bill. Pretty awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgS67BwPfFY

This video is what modern PCs are capable of running on a system like yours.(That's being rendered in real time) ;P

The next-gen consoles are going to make a huge difference, imho.

Explanation(IGN explains the vid):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq1wUEkkEw8&feature=related


I don't really pay attention to the power bill on that hehe. However, I had to buy extra fans to keep my computer cool. I have 3 on the back, two on top, one on each side and one in the front. I can't believe I had enough cables to hook them all up to the power supply.

I didn't see that video from the coverage at the GDC, that is sweet. Thanks for the link, I'm looking forward to that game hehe.
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 3:06 pm

I didn't see that video from the coverage at the GDC, that is sweet. Thanks for the link, I'm looking forward to that game hehe.


I don't think it's a game, just a tech demo. The idea is to show off what modern PCs are graphically capable of in terms of rendering in real time. Of course, we probably won't see much of this until the next wave of consoles come out! However, in 3 years from now the common gaming PC will be able to do what that vid was showing without effort.

Also, it shows off what DX11 is capable of. It offers more than people think.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 11:54 am

I don't think it's a game, just a tech demo. The idea is to show off what modern PCs are graphically capable of in terms of rendering in real time. Of course, we probably won't see much of this until the next wave of consoles come out! However, in 3 years from now the common gaming PC will be able to do what that vid was showing without effort.

Also, it shows off what DX11 is capable of. It offers more than people think.


Your right, I went back, it's just a demo :sadvaultboy: Looked like it would be a good game. I really like how they have bettered tessellation. It's the first time I've seen tessellation used so well.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 12:19 pm

No I'm not. I already have this PC, no reason wasting money downgrading to a 360. :-) As for staying behind, right now I'm playing the brand new game Dead Space 2, 1080p, 100+ fps, and I'm seeing exactly the same picture as someone on Windows 7. I expect the same thing will happen with Skyrim.
I'm not saying I will NEVER get rid of XP, I WANT better looking games. But as long as DX11 looks almost exactly the same as DX9 with only a few minor enhancements, getting Windows 7 would be wasting money as well.

you would not be wasting it. now is probably one of the best possible times to upgrade. xp may keep you content for a few more months but there are some amazing things being done in dx11 that you don't want to miss and this is coming SOON.
if your worried about price then maybe you can get a license from your work? school? thats where i got my last os, win7 professional. do they have any discount software stores in your area?
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 6:34 am

Obviously Skyrim Will Support DX11 and Ofourse you will somewhat have to buy a New PC, what are the New 500 Cards for. :P

I have a Geforce 260 and Just Cause 2 that Supports DX11, yet People are telling me that i need a DX11 500 type Card, because the DX11 on the 260 Card, is Fake. :brokencomputer:

Having Win7 is Very Important yes, but you Need a DX11 Card that Skyrim needs. ;)

The other day i was running a Systems Requirments Lab Test on a Game that is 2 Years Old (Dirt 2) and it tells me already that i need a New Intel Board and a 500 Card. :facepalm:

You obviously have no understanding of computers.

The GTX260 is NOT DX11. Just because Windows 7 supports DX11 does not mean you can use it without the hardware to support it. The 400 series is the lowest series of Nvidia to support DX11

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_260_us.html

"Features: Microsoft DirectX - 10"


And NEVER use System Requirements Lab... its spam and complete crap.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:31 am

I would absolutely love DX11 support, and I have the OS and GPU to power it - I don't hold out any hope at all, but perhaps a patch. Certainly TES VI, but that one could be a while.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:54 am

You obviously have no understanding of computers.

And NEVER use System Requirements Lab... its spam and complete crap.
Thats true, i dont know allot about Computers, i just Buy what the Game Maximum Requirements tell me to get. :brokencomputer:

What should i use to see if my PC can Handle the Game, since Allot of People use Systems Requirements Lab. :confused:

The Next Card i Almost Bought was a 570 Card, now it seems that i need to wait till Skyrim. ;)
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 5:10 pm

you would not be wasting it. now is probably one of the best possible times to upgrade. xp may keep you content for a few more months but there are some amazing things being done in dx11 that you don't want to miss and this is coming SOON.
if your worried about price then maybe you can get a license from your work? school? thats where i got my last os, win7 professional. do they have any discount software stores in your area?

Not money, but backwards compatibility with older games is the main issue. I know Windows 7 supposedly has a good XP compatibility option, but I still remember my Windows ME->XP upgrade (in 2004 :biggrin:). A large number of games wouldn't run anymore, even though I enabled Win95/98 compatibility. When I feel like playing those games now, I have to use my old Win98 system (with a tiny screen). Not fun.
And no, I'm not going to create a dual boot setup, because I'm not wasting a brand new Windows-7 OEM-licence on this 4-year old motherboard. I plan to get a new completely new system when I upgrade to 7, and keep this old one as a XP-gaming console.
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Post » Sat May 21, 2011 4:13 pm

I have Old Dos Games since 1984 and Win7 is really Cool with holding it up, instead of Burning Out or something. :P

I dont suppose you guys know Kings Quest or Space Quest or Quest For Glory or Tomb Raider (1996). :toughninja:
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As long as the modders keep making "Graphics extender" mods, I will be okay. I am playing Oblivion again with DoF, Godrays, and color adjustments, and it looks totally amazing.
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