Disable the "finishing moves"

Post » Wed May 09, 2012 12:33 am

So, there I was in first person, fighting a guy with a sword. Playing Skyrim. I'm hitting him, he's hitting me - you know how it goes - when all of a sudden I swing and...

...the next thing I know I'm watching a movie of some elf stabbing some elf running this guy through with a sword.

Then, when I was allowed to play Skyrim again, I quit it and came here to start this thread.

Look, I understand you needed something pretty to throw in the trailers and ads, but "cinematic takedowns" are a disease and the complete antithesis of gaming. Gaming is about interactivity. Perspective-breaking scripted sequences that remove control over the player character are the opposite of that. Gaming is about control. These scripted takedowns remove that.

In short, having the player character - the guy on screen - do something the player - the human holding the mouse or controller - has no control over makes your game less of a game.

I understand some may think it "looks" great - that's fine. There just needs to be an option to disable them. But in my mind, games are not about how they look - that's not interaction, that's simply observation - but about how they feel, how they play - that what a player character does on screen is a direct result of the player's own actions. When you have the player character do something the player did not instigate or have control over, you break the suspension of disbelief that gaming relies on: that the player IS the player character. Isn't that what RPGs are meant to be about?

There needs to be an option to turn it off. I looked forward to Skyrim as a game that maintained the tradition TES, of being an immersive sim where the player controlled as many aspects of the game as possible. And the the "cinematic takedowns" or "finishing moves" or "executions" or whatever quaint euphemism is currently being used to describe them simply make it less of a game and more of a movie.

And it's a sad, sad day when all gaming can aspire to is films.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:25 pm

If you are on PC you can wait till a mod comes out to disable it. Otherwise you either get used to it or quit playing.

this feature has been known for months so you should be aware of it before getting the game.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:49 am

if dont like it, delete the game and stop playing it, i dont want them to disable the finishing moves its awsome..
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:03 am

Prepare thy self for people who TL;DR and flame you for not like every single facet of Skyrim.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:43 am

Look, I understand you needed something pretty to throw in the trailers and ads, but "cinematic takedowns" are a disease and the complete antithesis of gaming.

I have never seen a better example of making a mountain out of a molehill
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:44 pm

Agreed

Although finishers are fun, I want to control them. When, how and which one should be up to the player.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:10 pm

Sad story bro :shakehead:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:30 am

I agree, but the sad reality is that these forums will relentlessly attack you for expressing distaste for a single feature/mechanic of Skyrim and will continue to berate you about it and deny the option, or anything different from the actual implementation, on grounds of the game being Skyrim/made by Bethesda and therefore being infallible. It's foolish, nonsensical, irreverant, irrelevant, sheepish, arrogant, hypocritical, and flat-out rude, but what can you do? :shrug:

Anyway, I do very highly agree.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 12:14 am

I can see how a death video for every kill would get old real quick.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:29 pm

You are stupid.
This
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:32 pm

Meh, im ok with them so long as it isnt EVERY SINGLE KILL.

Was hoping for a disable option, but whatever.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:51 am

I really hoped this kind of cinematic crap would never make it's way into the TES series, but it has...

Hopefully when a 'No Finishers' mod becomes incredibly popular, Bethesda will realise that they need to give players the option to disable the feature in TES VI.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:11 pm

watching some review videos (IGN) I believe it only happens twice and the video is 20mins long and he clears out an entire dungeon.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:01 pm

I really hoped this kind of cinematic crap would never make it's way into the TES series, but it has...

Hopefully when a 'No Finishers' mod becomes incredibly popular, Bethesda will realise that they need to give players the option to disable the feature in TES VI.
I think the sadder thing is how blindly so many people accept, no, violently defend a forced implementation of these things.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:15 pm

If you're on a PC, then there should be a mod to cure what ails you, if not, then get used to it.

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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:50 pm

Prepare thy self for people who TL;DR and flame you for not like every single facet of Skyrim.
Looks like you're the only one saying that. I think that's what you truly think of the game.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:30 pm

Certainly will be the 1st mod I install.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:37 am

I'm so looking forward to finishing moves. I'm playing everything in 3rd person, and I love the finishers! YAY!
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:59 pm

So, there I was in first person, fighting a guy with a sword. Playing Skyrim. I'm hitting him, he's hitting me - you know how it goes - when all of a sudden I swing and...

...the next thing I know I'm watching a movie of some elf stabbing some elf running this guy through with a sword.

Then, when I was allowed to play Skyrim again, I quit it and came here to start this thread.

Look, I understand you needed something pretty to throw in the trailers and ads, but "cinematic takedowns" are a disease and the complete antithesis of gaming. Gaming is about interactivity. Perspective-breaking scripted sequences that remove control over the player character are the opposite of that. Gaming is about control. These scripted takedowns remove that.

In short, having the player character - the guy on screen - do something the player - the human holding the mouse or controller - has no control over makes your game less of a game.

I understand some may think it "looks" great - that's fine. There just needs to be an option to disable them. But in my mind, games are not about how they look - that's not interaction, that's simply observation - but about how they feel, how they play - that what a player character does on screen is a direct result of the player's own actions. When you have the player character do something the player did not instigate or have control over, you break the suspension of disbelief that gaming relies on: that the player IS the player character. Isn't that what RPGs are meant to be about?

There needs to be an option to turn it off. I looked forward to Skyrim as a game that maintained the tradition TES, of being an immersive sim where the player controlled as many aspects of the game as possible. And the the "cinematic takedowns" or "finishing moves" or "executions" or whatever quaint euphemism is currently being used to describe them simply make it less of a game and more of a movie.

And it's a sad, sad day when all gaming can aspire to is films.
I agree. To find a mod that removes them will be an early priority.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:51 pm

I'm sure someone will make a "carebear" mod that disables blood, finishing move animations and gore.

Maybe they'll change the blood to rainbow-colored Kool-Aid?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:11 am

You are stupid.


This


Please, don't be rude, guys. Thanks.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:07 pm

Looks like you're the only one saying that. I think that's what you truly think of the game.


I put what I truly think of the game in that post directed to the OP? oh my please direct me to this non existent aspect of that post please! and tell me I wasn't right since the op is already on fire.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:53 pm

Well at least it's better than in Fallout where all we would see is a slow motion ragdoll, but at least in that game you could disable it!

Oh well, I'll play with it until I've seen most of them and then get a mod that disables it. IMO it adds nothing to the game.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:30 pm

The new Ace Combat has things exactly like this. It's even worse in it since you're piloting a jet that is flying at 600km/h :swear: Sure it's funny to see the enemy pilot fly from the wreckage of what used to be his jet, but it just gets annoying in the long run. I expect the same of these Skyrim finishers.

Oh well, that's exactly the reason why i buy Bethesda's games for PC. Modders shall save us :bowdown:
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:13 pm

If you're on a PC, then there should be a mod to cure what ails you, if not, then get used to it.

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+1
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