I just wanted to ask if anyone was disappointed to the work that bethesda did to fallout3.

Once i started playing i was very exited about the game. It started uniquely with that baby and child stuff so it was a nice difference to other games. There was not too much of that mumbo jambo and it did a good job on giving a good base for building a storyline. I also liked the wasteland for first with a quite realistic post apocalyptic city with astonishing graphics and a good fighting system.

And then comes the crappy part: NOT ENOUGH MERCHANTS , NOT ENOUGH WEAPONS , TOO MUCH SAME STUFF , SAD FAST TRAVEL THAT MAKES YOU CORRUPT VERY FAST , NOT SO NICE WORLD . . . . . . so about those merchants and the weapons. Too much of the same stuff everywhere that you cant sell , becource the merchants don't have enough money. They took A LOT of weapons away that were in old fallouts i would of desired lots of diffirent kind of guns and not the same 10mm pistol and a hunting rifle for every damn raider , oh i almost forgot those very cool chinese noodel pistol and 32. NOT ENOUGH WEAPONS. In brotherhood of steel there was not enough guns but there was still much more than this has.

When i looked this game in the local store i visioned a very rough wasteland were if you let your guard down you'd be eaten by a death claw but no in this case a molerat comes pissing on your armor.
I saw a game with that wasteland having bastions of defence while ruthless mercenaryes and raiders trying to invade them in vast numbers.

So whats the verdict mm good game that leaves you kind of cold. Only 2 towns with a bit more people and . . it just . . is sad . . a vechicle would have been nice instead of the fast travel. that you would need to recover like all the motorcycle parts to get it so you can travel fast and you would run out of fuel and stuff. It would have also been nice if you needed to eat instead of living with purified water and stimpack diet

Ill write more if someone wants to even make a conversation but IT IS STILL ONE HECK OF A GAME AND ILL GO PLAY IT RIGHT NOW !!!

I bet this gets locked... Their are other topics just like this throughout the forums..

Not at all.



Agreed. The starting story was pretty good when it dealt with your relationship to your dad.



There are plenty of merchants..they just aren't all rich with endless money, and we shouldn't expect them to be either.



According to wikia, there are 93 weapons in the game. Not enough, eh?



Huh?



What?



First off I said there are a lot of weapons..you just haven't played enough I guess. And as far as many monsters carrying the same weapons..that is because those are the most COMMON weapons you can find. Not everyone uses an exotic weapon. Secondly, nice racism. Thirdly, don't ever judge Fallout games against Brotherhood of Steel, it just means you fail.



Well, if you left the vault and had a Deathclaw in your face, the game would end right there. Way to go on making the game take 10 minutes for everyone. You wanna give us all a refund on you make the game terrible? Secondly, it's a wasteland..there really aren't that many people to even form a concentrated attack on anything.

I agree with parentis on everything.

Ditto.

toooo long didn't read.. but from the title.. you are disappointed about... well wtf are you disappointed about?

allujah hey fast-travel is optional you are not forced to use it, not enough weapons i have seen plenty of them if you want more weapons go play a First Person Shooter, the towns yes I agree on the towns three shacks don't make any sense if it comes ot a town ... merchants I have seen plenty of them, indeed there are even traveling merchants (more than in other beth games I ever did play), vehikles yes and next time you whine you can't use it since washington d.c. area is a hell of a lot to use it ... the mainquest yes it is way to short ...

I hope you play on a pc if you don't you should play the game on a pc there are plenty of reasons why you should play the game on PC ...

I was alot more disappointed with fo1, fo2 and tactics...as everyone had said they were so amazing, ive managed to play them for about 2 hours each then thought "[censored] to this"..i dont feel the need to make threads about it

The weapon variety could be improved upon a bit, and the chance for more deadly encounters would be welcome -- it might be fun to be terrorized by a powerful mutant or two when you're a bit unexperienced -- and scared out of your head.

I think the OP means he crashes on loading screens. Not sure.

Not to be rude but if you want to be taken seriously--whomever you are--spell check helps a lot.

same here....

Not at all, I am however quite disappointed at the work that Bethesda didn't put into Fallout 3, like extensive playtesting and bugfixing prior to release, anti-aliasing for the PS3, VSync for the 360 etc.

Chinese noodel! :slap: :clap:

Paranitis, you hit the nail on the head! Yet another case of FO1/FO2 worship by someone who clearly has not played either of those games in a looooooong time!! This game kicks ass & is vastly superior in every way imaginable! :thumbsup:

He clearly wrote down why he was disapointed with the game, If you bothered to read, he still says it's a great game and he is still playing it.

It wasn't a long post at all to read. I believe it is clearly why because gamers like him, who have low or no attetion span why Bethesda is Dumbing donw their games so they can sell more. Yes we all want more complexity in our games, but as you can see here, this guy couldn't even bother to read 3 or so paragraphs. This is why we need voice acting now, because people can't be bothered to reading text now, like it was in Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind and other assorted games. All the reading have to be taken away from them.

Perfect example why Fallout 3 and Oblivion is not as complicated as the previous TES games were.

I am a bit disapointed with Fallout 3 though. I love the game so far but at first it almost seemed like an expansion to Oblivion too much. Fast travel is the same, selling is the same, except we can't adjust the price of items now. Movement and controls are almost the same, attack, block, and grabbing is all too familiar.

But I love the game, it is a great game, but more could have been done to it. At least with Oblivion, I felt I was never finished with the game, that there is SO much to do, I am surprised that I will be actually done this game, witch I never did with and TES game. I played hundres and hundreds of hours with all TES games, but I feel I will only have less than a hundred hours of this game, since I might replay it once, but not start over and over again as I did with the other games.

Is that a good thing or not?

Don't get me wrong those were my thoughts exactly during the first hour in Fallout 1. But you'll begin to acknowledge it when you go deeper into the game.

FO1 & 2 are classics, I'm guessing the only problem you got with them is the turn based combat mode, the story is what makes the game an epic. You feel that way because you did not finish the game. You'll begin to appreciate the classics if you only go deeper into the story, and not complain about it for the first few gaming hours. Fallout 1 & 2 is meant to be played in turn base mode (I don't need to explain my self any further).

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And yes @ first I was a bit disappointed about Bethesda buying Fallout from Interplay, I've been waiting for this game to be released during 2004-2006 then Interplay had financial problems...

The only things I was disappointed about is (took me only about a week to finish it...) the remaking of the skills in Fallout 3
First Aid & Doctor Skill = Now Medical Skill <<< good job on this one. Also the poison status is no longer available. When did radscorpions lost their poisonous ability?
Trowing & Traps Skill = Now Explosives. Note: Fallout 3 no longer support the trowing of rocks, spear, knives. The only thing you can trow are grenades... how boring...
Outdoorsman Skill - The knowledge of plants, animals and outdoor living Based on INT and EN. Bethesda should have included this skill, as this will allow players to fast travel to un/explored locations and still encounter creatures, traders, ect. during travels.

Only problem with the game its SO STINKIN EASY! Power armor is completey worthless you can beat the entire game with no armor & a 10mm pistol if you know how to shoot people in the head and spend your points right. Easier then Oblivion. . .

Only one real disappointment, but that's been gone over so many times in this forum.

The other aspects you mention like the merchants and not enough weapons leads me to think you have not explored or scavenged very well, I'm now at lvl 19 with almost god like abilities, my character can still die but he won't make it an easy task for the enemy, weapons, armor, ammo and caps he has got in abundance, now he enjoys exploring the wasteland in relative safety.

Mmm it's very nice to see that we have some mentally more developed people here and ofcource those who are immature and are too lazy to read what the guy wrote and still whack his head with a baseball bat. So to the point , what i meant actually ment that it is not as fallout as it should be it's too much oblivion. For example in morrowind you just could not go to some places in the start becource you would get killed , and that was the thrill of it. . . to go there later with more powerfull character and then find some other place that has evern worst enemy. In fallout 1 and 2 the same thing. . . maybe it is that in fallout 3 you get the good guns too early. I think it was fallout 2 that begun with a spear and youd have to go a looong way to find your first gun For example in fallout 3 if you play a sniper , you start with 10mm pistol . . . 10min gameplay you find hunting rifle... 5h of gameplay you find a sniper rifle ... then you make your character 10-15lvl and you can lockpick a 100lock to find a special gun and thats it now thou are the king of the jungle. . . While reading posts of Darion and vampire 96 , i understood that it was the lack of complexity that was the problem whit it. In games like Final Fantasy , Morrowind , and fallout 1 and 2 you had to get deep in the game to make it cool. I have couple of friends who doesent like playing roleplay games becource you have to think or sacrifise a bit more time to get to it. They like to play car games and fps but none of them liked morrowind or oblivion or the earlyer fallouts. The other guy said the same thing about fallout 2 when he bought it. ''I played it for an hour and got bored''. I like games that has material for hundreds of hours of gameplay that has a unlike other storyline . . like baldurs gate. Maybe some people have better taste of games than others maybe not.

And i'm sorry for my spelling it has been a long time since someone has teached me to spell english

BUT still it's a great game as i said before . . . a very good game it just needs a bit smoothing with a chainsaw and a tire iron

The only thing that i'm disapointed by this game is the lack of quests.

I also found the quests to be a bit boring to be honest.

Well, I was mostly comparing it to Oblivion and, in that sense its improved.

Landscape and content is more interesting so I didn't find myself so compelled to use fast travel (I do hate it when people claim its optional, when the game is designed for the fast travel to be the main method of transport its not a fair option and people who'd prefer not to use it are forced to because walking long distances in between quest targets isn't fun - side rant )

Character Skills are more important

Baddies don't level quite so horribly, resistance increase and decreases where I expect it to and enemies come in a variety iof difficulties

VATS is fun and effective

Dialogue is more interesting

Intro is awesome

Radio is entertaining

Repair system and minigames are better

Fallout 3 was better than what I expected.

Hi all.

This may well have been mentioned before.

I thoroughly enjoyed Fallout 3 and played it as completely as possible to enjoy every pixel that Bethesda have created. Forget the bugs and glitches I LOVED this game.

Unfortunately my enjoyment lasted exactly 20 LEVELS.

Why oh Why have we all been doomed to remain at XP level 20. With this being such a well thought out mature game, why have Bethesda stopped level progression at level 20.

I can't understand why, when you wish to complete the entire game and enjoy all the hard work that has gone into making Fallout 3 great, you cannot continue to improve your player. Especially when you can see on the screen that there is indeed a level 21 right there....I can see it!

Such a shame!

Don't get your main focus on leveling in this game cause then it'll be a short ride; like playing it for the main quest only. It's all about exploring and making it as big as you want it to be. Just wait for DLC if you're desperate for a higher lvl, cause it'll probably add 10 more levels or so to the current ones.

I finally broke down and decided to register, only because the OP provoked a rant in me.


I personally loved fallout 3 and I would not change the game majorly, I just believe there a few things that could be re-done or tweaked a tiny bit to fit better. A few side notes before my rant.

1) I have only played fallout 3, I was going to pick up BoS but it's not backwards compatible for my 360 *tear tear*. The first two, are damn near impossible to find.
2) I've played WoW, Guild Wars, and all TES games. With a bunch of RPG's and RTS scattered throughout.

I love the setting of fallout 3, personally when I picked it up I was a bit skeptical of what to expect, because it was a wasteland-esque zombie survival game. (The store employee obviously didn't know anything) So I pick it up, pop it in as soon as I get home and the next time I looked at the clock it was 11pm that night, I had played for 5 or 6 hours straight with out realizing it. OF course with the good, there must always be bad....

The Bad

Weapons, yes I personally love all the weapons and I think there should be a few more. They had the right idea with the victory rifle and the rock-it launcher, but they did a poor job of rounding off the group. Both those guns, are different then the standard run of the mill guns, the VR knocks your opponent down on a crit and the rock-it launcher launches junk.
There are 5 or 6 major weapon skills,in each skill there is usually a major weapon one person will stick to. Big weapons: Mini-gun. Small guns: CAR or SR. Melee: Power fists or super sledge. As someone pointed out earlier there are 93 weapons in the game, but those 93 are based off of a small amount of recycled guns. I really think they could have done more to round the guns off or at least give us some customizable options that come stock with the game. I mean come on, it's a freakin roleplaying game, but we can't add scopes to guns? We can't change the barrel length? Add Silencers? Extend clips? Seriously bud? This a role playing game, from Bethesda I expected something along the lines of TES:M or TES:O with the ability to make your own potions and spells but transfer into weapons.

Clothing, not much to say here except, there really isn't much weight to the armor, you can play the whole game with a pre-war business get up. It doesn't add to the game minus bonuses, but really you can stack your skills to where the effect doesn't matter.

Travel, I really love the fast travel idea and it's sixeh when I have to go from rivet city to fort constantine.

Skills, they really could have done more with the skills, like hello, this is a freakin post apocalyptic game, I don't want stuff handed to me, I want to scavenge and gather to survive, and have to make my own weapons. I don't want to walk out of the vault with a 10mm pistol at 14 dam, nor do I want to walk out with almost 200 rounds of ammuniton. Bring outdoorsman in, shelters, food, water, all that fun stuff. Also, I picked up a regular old kitchen knife in megaton.... equip....oh wait, it's not for combat... Kidding me? Remove stealth boys.... for christ sake there aren't enough of them for me to play the game the way I want to play it.

Aids, please for the love of god put a buff meter in to show how the buffs have left. It svcks walking through the Statesmen Hotel Resturaunt with 4 super mutants next to me and oh uhh christ my stealth boy went out.

The ending?

Overall, I loved the game and wish I could pick up the previous titles, I can't wait for the dlc and I'd give this game a 9.6/10 Easily

[endrant] Tirith- Wee for long first posts..

It is true that the exploration does make the game. It all just flattened when I wasn't greeted with the friendly KA-Ching! of my XP increasing with every safe cracked or computer hacked.

It's almost an encouragement to complete the game quicker and avoid exploration as Bethesda has designed the game (Your Character) to last no longer than 20 Levels.

Why have an XP cap at all??