I can see why that is. I don't have the same opinon with Fallout (since I like how the 3d eviroments allow for better immersion, for me anyway) but they're are a couple series of games where I like and prefer the "outdated" graphics (the Age of Empires is one actually, as well as a few old console games). I know what you mean when you say "it lets you get a feel for a different era". I was more responding though to Chutz's post about how he "didn't care about graphics".

Well, I love dated graphics on dated games. On Skyrim or New Vegas, it'd feel weird to be 2D. It gives you a feel for how much the world has changed (and sometimes it's good to remember your roots.)

I don't think anyone wants a 2D future Fallout ~ I don't... but 3D does not mean First Person view. Fallout always imitated the look of a table top wargame, and should have kept that in all future sequels; but I get the impression that NV would have disappointed a lot of TES fans (and FO3 fans) if it were true to its roots.

It is totally ridiculous to compare a 10 year old game with todays games.
Fallout was one of the greatest games of all time because of its gameplay, story and graphics originality and execution at that point in time.
In fact it was so much different than anything else out there (when everyone was playing RTS or DD rpgs) that it was not a huge commercial success.

Nothing, nothing from the same era is remotely similar to the original Fallout.

I think Fallout 1 and 2 have good graphics :/ They have really beautifully made sprites.

You're trying too hard.



I think there could have been more diversity among the sprites though. I always found it weird how there were old ladies walking around looking like they were in their 20s or 30s.

The pacing in FNV is a little slow. And straight exploration can be boring. It needs more random groups of baddies to shoot up. And get shoot up by. There is a real lack of hard encounters with guns people.

Try going against some factions. They can put up a good fight. Random baddies are so weak because, like you said, they are random baddies.

it is clear that you are totally insane. THE YEAR IS 2011! If you asked 1000 people that hadnt played the fallout series to play every game, 90 percent of them would pick fallout 3 or NV. Its easy to look back on old games as perfect, forgeting there flaws. Fallout 3 was one of the best games ive played. NV?? not so good

I like pissing off Caesars legion so I can kill some assassins. But overall exploration is boring. Toughest critters are all melee.

Guess I got spoiled by Dragon Age. That game was challenging

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Fallout 3 was PATHETIC. The shooter mechanics svck, VATS is a joke, game balance nonexistent, and the game was easy evenonthe hardest game mode. And you know what? The game SCREAMS OBLIVION WITH GUNS OBLIVION WITH GUNS OBLIVION WITH GUNS.

Just keep playing, the first 15 hours are warming up. But Fallout NV doesn't offer much if you don't do quests, without quests.. It's like a FPS without enemies, you know?

Both games are great, despite the bugs. NV just lacks random encounters and the empty areas of the map are disappointing

ok this is from someone who has only played it for about a day i am really enjoying it and when i say day i mean a couple of hours i like the way it is going and am in prim the now (if thats how you spell it) i dont see why people dont like it

Same here. The town inhabitant sprites were well crafted archetypes of what they depicted ~not who.

(and IMO the close up faces are better outright :shrug:)
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/GHOULS.jpg
The FO3 engine has the ability to render the detail art from FO1 as realtime characters. I never liked their choice not to ~though I may understand it...
(the game uses Facegen after all.)

No one is forgetting flaws, most of us have it installed and even play it. :shocking:

NV is a different game than Fallout 2, but appears to play towards the same sensibilities as Fallout originally did; the ones that [IMO] Fallout 3 did not.
This seems a disappointment (sometimes) to the players that get bored of exploring and talking to NPCs. The Fallout series was always about exploring and talking to NPCs; combat was the minigame.:shrug:
(The series combat was also my favorite part of the games :chaos:, but its not anymore ~since Fallout 3).

Quests and interacting with people are essential in Fallout games for some people. And Fallout 3 was lacking heavily in both. And besides, if you want to play it like a FPS and go around killing anything that moves, it's still hell of a lot better than 3 with bigger variety of guns and people to kill.

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I liked the exploration in Fallout 1, 2, & 3. Liked the combat in all three too. The exploration in FNV is just kind of slow. To many areas with nothing interesting or interesting combat.

Combat in Fallout 2 was really dificult. I died a lot in that game. I don't die in FNV - unless I get careless and get jumped by three deathclaws. Plus I loved the kill animation on the Gauss Rifle in F2. And the arm blowoff from a auto weapon. I still remember that tribal companion(Sulik or something like that) running up to some guy with a SMG and getting blasted apart.

I've no clue what they intend... but it would seem to me that the Fallout 1 style death criticals might be possible to create with Havok behaviors... If so, then Fallout 4 might have the potential for them. That'd be cool. :celebration:
(I would assume they intend to use a tweaked Skyrim engine for Fallout 4).

i actually agree with everything chutz says. Fallout 1 and 2 are sooooo overrated! They dont even come close to fallout 3.

"There will be blue birds over..."

Many do, many don't, those that do are adamant, those that don't can draw on better examples..
I just like all of them..
No favourites just favourite bits and least liked gripes.

"The white cliffs of dover" Just letting people know that an awful lot of people think fallout 3 is the best in the series(me included) Ive played fallout 1,2,3 and NV. fallout 3 is the best so far. NV the worst

Will you say why? The OP is disappointed in NV [possibly] because NV drifts away from Fallout 3 towards Fallout 2 ~though its still an FPP combat game.
NV has outsold Fallout 3 IRRC*... is NV overrated as well? ~If so... Why?

*Perhaps just at the milestones.

NV sales were boosted by the massive success of fallout 3 (and a lot of people were disappointed!)