Thanks for telling me this...I can save my money and not buy NV.

Yeah I recokn hey, and how about them ghouls wanting to go to space.... oh wait

I'm sorry I haven't read thru the numerous replies yet but YES, I am beyond disappointed and not only because it's a bug-fest (and I'm on an Xbox) but because it has no depth, NO soul compared to FO3.

Originally was SOOO stoked there was music by Frank Sinatra, but that was THE only song that helped with the GREATLY lacking immersion. I mean honestly I found more depth in Halo Wars and HALO: ODST blows FO:NV away in immersion.

I pre-oredered the game the day was announced paid for and received the collectors edition. In my opinion a TOTAL waste of money! I wish I'd waited and could now buy it for $14-$19 on Amazon.... A LOT less than you'll payfor FO3!

To Me FO3 is without a doubt THE greatest game in my gaming life and I go back to the original NES! FO:NV = MUCH < Point Lookout

The other thing I enjoyed about FO3 was the wry, sardonic advlt humor as opposed to the silly childish hurmor in FO:NV it was SOOOO in your face, not vaguely subtle (or even funny) but from the kudos I've seen from the old-school FO fans it was tailored to EXACTLY their taste.

Guess WHAT?

FO3 didn't win just about every award because the 1980s or what ever earlier FO fans loved.... They hated it. They are still living in the 80s!

FO3 was a game for THIS generation and it is our ULTIMATE game!

If you're dissapointed in New Vegas, then obviously plot and storylines don't matter while exploration does... I'd recommend picking up Oblivion.

Plot and storylines????? You're kidding right? Was there even a plot in FO:NV?????

What story? 1st of all the weak-a$$ story continually breaks EVEN on an Xbox (although I haven't tried lately) Is there ANY depth what-so-ever to that dumb story other than a nod to the 'Old-timers'. I mean honestly, I played thru 2 1/5 times and don't even remember that boring plot. There NO immersion!

While I can't exactly remember the NV ending, I DO remember it was one of the biggest letdowns EVER in game.

I will NEVER forget the plot, the story or end of FO3 ... gamesas did it before Bungie and it was awesome!

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:


You just lack of respect not only for the old games

But also the old gamers

Heck

Have you said 80???

talk about ignorance too :sadvaultboy:

I can argue with other people about the flaws

but this.

I cant argue with this honestly

Even those who support Fallout 3 can found your "argument" (?) really illogic

New Games with shiny graphics and new ideas doesnt make better games, its how you can handle it and use it

There were a couple of cheesy quests in NV, but as I said earlier, they didn't stand out so much as everything in 3.

Do not guide your point of views with just opinions of other users

You might like it

I still keep saying 'let's hear those "deep" arguments'.

All I see here is an emotional outburst at the incapability of doing so.

Let's compare:
NV
-Different endings for both the factions AND minor ones and even some characters. Hell, even the guy you are chasin' the whole game has more into his personality than his wacky facade.
Problem is that most people don't even notice the ending slides, thanks to the outrage of "WAT NO OPTIMUS PRIME ASPLUSHNS EPIC BATTLE THIS SAX"
-Companions with unique personalities and personal quests.Some even won't agree with the way you handle some quests
-Factions, that are not black and white. NCR is corrupt, Legion inhumane(the end justifies the means) etc.
-The whole story revolves about your personal revenge(if you must), but then you eventually have a chance of changing the whole Mojave.
-And most important thing: You have a CHOICE. You CAN join the corrupt government or the militaristic zealots. Or find your own way.

F3
-You must help BOS. The only change in the ending is only about your karma. Huh.
-Companions being cannon fodders with no personality. Hell, even the drunk archetype Oghren from DA: Origins has more personality than the swearing bald ex-raider. Constant swearing doe not make you badass.
-You still have to help BOS, aka the Arturian knights of the table round againts the "eeeevil black nights" of the Enclave. How original... not.
-The story had some potential. I liked Liam Neeson as the Dad, too bad it degenerated into the stuff mentioned above. You have no choice in that matter, the story is filled with cheap illogical McGuffins(the GECK for example) and other fallacies.
-You don't have a choice. You are railroaded into the same ending over and over again,

And yeees let's not forget the vague "old-timers" statement. Words can't even describe the ignorance. :rolleyes:
Fallout 1 was also relased in 1997, get your facts straight before slinging utter nonesense at anyone.

Well, those were my 2 cents. So again, let's see those arguments.


Addendum: Explosions > Consistency

He said, "we live in the 80"

I just wanna know how I play games when I dont even born :whistling:

"OMG Fallout 3 Fallout NV F3 NV F3 NV New Fallout blows goats. I hate it."
*keep on throwin' moneys at the dev's*


Every bit of newness has its strengths and weaknesses. Fallout 3 was fun but I hated it, just like NV is fun and I hate it. And just like the rest of you, I'll keep on paying to see more.

Care to explain this?

...and after reading back a bit:

Wow. The stubborn ignorance I have seen 'round here is rivaled only by that in the paranormal forums I have frequented...I am sad for a few key individuals.

...um...because they're both decent games with their fair share of weaknesses? Shall I run down the list of things already made abundantly clear by everybody and their mom?

Ho, don't involve my mum into this. She hates games apparently. :cryvaultboy:

Just noticed that another post like this was in the Fallout 3 Forums

or it was this?

Just asking.

At least on FO3, I had motivation to continue on with the quest line. In FONV, once Act 1 was done (revenge on Benny), I was offered no motivation to help anyone. Why would I help anyone? I honestly don't consider that either of the storylines were as marvellous as people make them out to be. FO3 was linear, and FONV was... directionless.

Still, I'll buy FO4. I'm in it for the fun, not some pretentious wankfest where I reminisce about my iso views and turn based combat, and bemoan they're no more. The world moves on. Adapt or perish.

And it's got to be the cheesyiest of them all (Fo3 and F:NV), I'm sorry but the concept of that quest is ridiculous



Neither of the Modern games have the amount of charm of the first two (there's so many one liners in them it's hard to keep count) I found F:NV to be just as unfunny as FO3 (even more so) yes it did have me laughing at some bits but not to the extent it should have if it was designed by the main guys of FO2.

Yup, Oblivion modded to oblivion and back is a better alternative than New Vegas if you liked Fallout 3 for it's world and gameplay.



QFT. And i didn't find the revenge part too compelling either. "Someone shot me in the head, i better disappear before that someone tries again :bolt:"



:hehe: Well, Fallout 4 will be again by Bethesda, so the whine shall be enormous *puts on earplugs*

I like Fallout 3 the most, and all of the reasons have already be mentioned in this post.

Fallout 4 is also going to be made by Bethesda, and I'm quite happy for that.

So I'm not playing any Fallout games untill Fallout 4 (I've played both games too much for me to play it again). :sadvaultboy:

My fellow bretheren I know how you feel.(unfoutanatley) I would not doubt it has hundreds of bugs some of which are debilitating and cause you not to be able to finish missions and it (bugs)freezes and is very frusturating. I mean I still play it alot but I have a long fuse. The thing is I dont get were people even have the audacity to say it is nearly as good as Fallout3. The radio for instance in FONV completly svcks compared to FO3 in which you were able to actualey impact what three dawg was saying and the changes you made in the world were touched upon, FONV its just the same short robotic crap over and over again.(BUgs) FONV was not near as emense wastland size wise. You just run back and forth across the dessert doing almost boring tasks(bugs) I mean some of the miss(bugs)ions are fun. Look at this site we have pretty cool huh. WE WOULNT HAVE THIS SITE IF IT WASN'T FOR FALLOUT 3. after playing NEWVE(bugs)GAS!!! seems that was what someone was expelling at the time of its release. I doubt Newvegas alone with the other first 2 games FO1,FO2 would of caused this great site. Fallout 3 extreme hype left in its wake. we were expecting something great with newvegas. What we got was a cool game I like it but come on its a SLAP IN THE FACE compared to what we experianced in FO3 anybody can refrute this please by all means maybe im delusional, but I dont beleive I am somehow click on newvegas software issues and skim a few pages you' re going to get my point. BUGS

Its not a slap in the face if you like:

1. The Older Fallouts.

2. A GREAT story.

3. Older Factions.

4. Not being a god character.

5. Damage Threshold, this is my favorite addition of all time in FNV

6. Realistic cities.

Last time I checked there's still set spawn points that spawn the same enemies. You'll always find the same guys in the same spots. Whats so different about that? Hey wait I go to the Super duper mart 20 time and hey I fight the same Raiders over and over again! come on now. the only difference is in FO3 your tripping over the same random scorps every 3 feet.