So now that we're almost at the end of the complete DLC Cycle for NV, I have to say, I'm really disappointed with how Bethesda has handled the marketing and scheduling of the DLC. With every single DLC, there seems to be something going terribly wrong with the release format, and it is especially painful for the hardcoe fans who actually follow the news bits of the game on a day to day basis.

First Dead Money was released as a Xbox360 exclusive 2 months after the game was out. Fans on the other platforms had to avoid spoilers and steer clear of detailed impressions on it for an unknown amount of time simply because of a stupid business decision by the publisher. If it was just a multiplayer map pack, it wouldn't be much of an issue, but this is a story-heavy RPG scenario DLC. It really svcked to have to experience that. The wait ended up being 2 months before it was released on other platforms.

Then came Honest Hearts, which was already teased in the main game since it was released. As time went by after Dead Money hit PC and PS3, more and more details about Honest Hearts leaked without Bethesda saying a word about it. There was a banner on Xbox Live, there were leaked screens from a poorly planned Youtube trailer upload, etc. Jason came on here in April to let us know what was going on the development process and the upcoming patch. That was appreciated, but then we got radio silence again for quite a while, not knowing what was going on. Then the patch hit, and the achievements for the DLC were released. Still not a word about when the DLC was out until early May.

And that was when the remaining 3 DLC packs were promised to be released monthly. It sounded like a really good idea too. After a 4 month wait for Dead Money after the base game, and a 3 month wait after that for Honest Hearts, it seemed like the rest of the DLC would finally be out in a timely manner. Only that was another goof up. It should never have been announced in that way, if Bethesda did not know for sure that they could deliver. Old World Blues ended up being delayed because of the next big patch, and it wasn't released until July.

With the delay of Old World Blues, many expected that Lonesome Road would probably not be able to meet any sort of schedule either. Yet Jason came on again and assured everyone that it would indeed be out of August. There would not be a longer wait between DLCs. Hope reached its peak as Steam released the achievements for Lonesome Road this week, only for disappointment to set in as yet another announcement is made that Bethesda is letting down the fans. It's really getting old now.

There are several other factors which make being a fan feel kinda [censored] right now. It doesn't help that the developers assure us that the DLC have basically been done for some time now, and are obviously being delayed for various differing reasons that have nothing to do with the actual DLCs being ready for purchase. It also svcks that because of the failed schedule of the DLCs, what we have been experiencing on PC is basically a DLC pack being released, going on sale for 50% or more a month after that, and then another month or so before the next DLC pack is out. This has happened with the last 2 DLC packs.

Being a committed fan who pre-ordered NV and bought every single DLC the day it was released doesn't really seem to pay off. The company seems to be treating the fans like tools, who are annoying because we keep "asking for information", so they occasionally feed us scraps when something goes wrong to hope we "go away for a while". If there's a better perspective for this from the staff, I would love to hear it. Do you actually appreciate the fans?

Why is it that something unexpected forces a company to put off its own profits, even lessening them because of September releases, and the fans act like they've been wronged, it just seems like a childish response to something you don't know the circumstances of. How do you think Jason feels, having been assured that he would be safe making such claims, only to have suits higher up, tell him "Well, sorry, you lied to them, even though you couldn't have known."

This is nothing with game makers lately.

Because we live in an age where spoiled children run free and aren't satisfied when they don't get what they want. I really feel bad for Jason, he has to deal with this [censored] storm that calls itself "gamers".

I don't think comparing paying customers to spoiled children is a very good idea...

When you don't understand why you can't be given what you want when situations change, then come on here and spout your sense of entitlement, you are acting like a child.

Yeah but we should just ignore them. Topics like this come up all the time and this will not be the last. Why get worked up against something we can't change? I am talking about the game delay and the endless threads about "I am pissed at Obsidian for the delay" . Two birds with one stone.

The delay is most likely due to bug fixing. Rushing something will end in more pissed of people about bugs.

i think in all honesty the reason the schedule is so messed up is because they like every other company in the states is going through "Reorganization" which means when j.b. made his annoucement about them being out monthly he probably had boss A. who was fine with that then the patch hit and they changed it to boss B. who was not fine with it and wanted the patch out first then the dlc later now boss B. probably said it was fine that it would be out in august then he was changed to boss C. who i should put in air quotes for being a "derogatory part of anatomy" told marketing and his boss D.bag that they wouldnt get the money cause of deus ex and whatever else so they agreed with him and you now have the current shennanigans that cause us to have delays

When people stop acting like spoiled children throwing a temper tantrum, I will stop comparing them. I'm a paying customer too, as is pretty much everyone on this forum, and lot of us are willing to wait and act like mature advlts.

What people probably neglected to read is that it was out of their hands.


This. Sums up my post in a nutshell.

I see we're at the point where expressing any sort of disappointment over products we're paying for is considered whining, entitlement, etc. Well, in that case, I'll just stop posting here.

You can be disappointed, but saying we're being mistreated and being denied what we are owed is just silly.

Where those kids obtain this kind enligtment nowadays? :shakehead: :shakehead:

Do you know how a company works? I dont, so I dont talk about it, you do?

What Mako Vlazkov said.

What bugs be is the number of these threads. At least try to keep all of them to one topic. You are welcome to post your opinions.

I never said anything about being denied what we are owed. That would indeed be silly. I'm merely disappointed in the way that the DLC releases have been scheduled and the communication between the PR at Bethesda and the fans. I'm not blaming Jason, in fact I'm not blaming anyone. As far as being "mistreated" goes, I just feel that most of their announcements, especially when thing go wrong after they have previously announced stuff to get fans excited, lacks tact and could be better expressed.

Maybe you can read what I actually posted, before accusing me? I'm expressing my disappointment as a consumer who has been following New Vegas since before the release. The hype cycle of the DLCs and the way they have been announcing stuff has been poorly handled, and that frustrates not only me as someone who looks forward to playing the content, but it also makes it harder for them to ride the wave of excitement from each DLC to the next, potentially increasing the sales of the content.

I don't think I have made any unreasonable claims here, nor am I expecting more than they can offer. Bethesda is a big publisher, and the Fallout games sell millions of copies. The way the DLC packs have been announced, promoted, and delayed one after another have been pretty unprofessional and I am offering criticism on that process so they can hopefully improve on it.