Disappointment Threads

Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:05 am

I hope I'm not disappointed, that would pretty much mean that RPGs are almost dead to me and that all that's left are games that will only let me experience as Human (mostly male but Bioware gives a choice of gender at least.). It'll also mean that exploration in RPGs are dead and all that's left are the storytelling games and the "I'm so [censored] hardcoe!" games in the genre. I'm just expecting a fun RPG with a large world to explore and a lot of choices on what character I can play as.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:17 am

I don't think were over excited, just more interested than others people that want the game. Also, the nay sayers have a right to be upset (I guess it better now than later when they buy the game), but I'm not a fan of the ones that have to make threads for there feeling's sake. :mellow:
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:22 pm

I could say the same thing about the hype threads too. I think the disappointment threads stand out in people's minds because they are negative which is in conflict with the optimistic of our culture. I'm disappointed and excited about many things i've heard about from Skyrim, but there is a big difference between an optimist and a fan boy/girl. I think its mostly the older TES fans, the people who have played since pre-Morrowind or even Morrowind. Those people( like me) have a set idea on what TES is about, while newer people like Oblivion people think Oblivion was the basis on what the game is built on, sort of a more casual RPG game rather than the vast hoard of complex numbers the older fans like.

I think the biggest Achilles heel of TES series is that it 'reinvents' itself with each release, making it rather difficult to become attached and expect improvement rather than a different game. When people hear of a sequel, they expect Morrowind 2.0 rather than Oblivion, or Oblivion 2.0 rather than Skyrim. For me, i can best sum it up as one step forward and one step backwards.


The vast amount of stats didn't make the game that much more complex, Morrowind is still a rather easy game.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:44 pm

I'd say I'm on par with where I should be. I'm not expecting overly dynamic performances on aspects involving combat, NPCs, environment. But I do see that there is a substantial improvement from the previous game. And I'm not even saying that Oblivion was bad.

I think what's going to be most disappointing for some people is the fact that it's still a video game. I think people are expecting realism on every aspect. I'm expecting dragons' wings to go straight through buildings/trees with little to no effect. There's only so much you can fit into a game, I fully believe that Bethesda covered all the basics. And even the details. But it's the micro-details that I'm expecting to be flawed. The little things that people will complain about.


what's more- in the first month or so, there will be bugs. I think what's disappointing to me is that many of the people that will play the game in those first few weeks will basically summarize the game based off of the first few moments of gameplay and whatever bugs they find along the way, they'll count it against the game. Big "no, no."

EXPECT BUGS

And then wait a few months before you start overly-complaining about them. Bring them to light, let Beth know, but don't conclude that "skyrim svcks" because of those first initial playthroughs. A game this big will have bugs. More than most games.

But give it time. Those things will get fixed.

:yes:

But it isn't going to be the end all be all video game some make it out to be.

For those of us that don't play anything else but Bethesda open world games it most certainly will be.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:22 pm

I don't expect to be disappointed at all, mainly because I'm not looking at skyrim as the most epic game ever to be created, but as a reboot of Oblivion. I loved oblivion, in spite of all the things that really needed to be improved on, and as far as I'm concerned skyrim will pretty much be oblivion with said improvements and a brand new set of quests. = )
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:00 pm

I think a lot of the people on this forum that are super hyped simply are not aware of the full list of changes Bethesda has made from previous games. Once they actually play the game, they will be in for a shock.

I'm fully aware thank you. I'm also fully aware of all the stuff added. Morrowind gutted a lot of stuff I loved about Daggerfall, but I still enjoyed it for what it was. No other series out there provides me with as much fun as TES.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:23 am

I've witnessed all of Oblivion's build up to its release, with the demos, interviews and what not.

That along with the fact that I've done a ton of modding on Oblivion and Fallout 3, makes me think I know pretty well what to expect from Skyrim, what I should expect not to see, what things from the preview sound much cooler than they will actually be in the game, why certain features people really want aren't in the game, etc.

And how Bethesda's 20 minute demo was really clever in the way that it avoided showing the grass distance limit, hiding the fading in of tree shadows, kept the risk of distant LOD noticably popping in (it's not going to be perfect!) to a minimum, etc.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:31 am

I'm trying to unhype myself by not reading any new info or watching the videos again.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:23 pm

I expect alot of disappointment in others mostly because they are spoiling everything for themselves and getting an idea of what it might be only to probably be something a little different when they actually get to play.

I expect to see some graphical bugs and a few crashes in the first hour or two. I'd be disappointed if there wasn't.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:41 am

I don't feel I'm overhyped. I think I have a realistic grasp of the capabilities of a development team and the level of gameplay we've seen.

What is going to svck are these forums. Everyone that's really into the game will be PLAYING the game. The disappointed folks will be here, venting their frustration on the mods and anyone who wanders by.

The first two weeks are always the worst, and new players will be wandering through to see what the community is like and be turned off by all the negativity. I hope the mods took some vacation time the first week :(
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:22 am

I don't believe I'll be disappointed. I know that since it is a vanilla release there are bound to be some bugs, no matter how hard Bethesda worked to take them out. I know that in a month of two after release they will start releasing patches that will correct those problems. My excitement over the game is based on what I have seen. Not what I wish to see.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:20 pm

I find it truly sad that certain people think they can speak for others. I am very hyped for the game and won't be disappointed. I know what to expect and that's exactly what i'm getting. I will be completely satisfied come 11.11.11. Guess it makes them feel better about themselves since they won't enjoy the game as much.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:41 am

I don't think the issue will be with the game. It's almost always a bad idea to map out in your head exactly how something is "supposed" to be. Like the monster bride who feels entitled to her vision of "her" special day no matter how ill-suited that vision may be to the people and budgets involved. Undoubtedly, the community will end up feeling that some of the changes were more successful than others--although we may disagree about which were the successes and which "failures" actually mattered. I'll be very surprised though if folks minded to enjoy the game on its own terms don't have a grand time with it. And if you just can't enjoy a game without feature X? Well, it's tough to be you. :(
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:37 am

It was strange for me, really. I'm very a excitable person, yet - when Skyrim was first announced - it really didn't get me hooked right away. I admit I was disappointed by Oblivion and I still think - until now, Morrowind is the best RPG I ever played, even after finally convincing myself to finish Oblivion. Then I heard rumors that Skyrim would be more like Morrowind and that was what got me hooked. Sadly though, by now I kind of see that it will be more like Oblivion than Morrowind.
So, will there be things I will be disappointed with - yes, certainly. Why - because I know how it could have been. Does that mean that I will not enjoy the game or eventually come to terms with missing Medium armor or combined upper and lower body armor pieces? Not likely. I'm still looking forward to the game but my in between hype has died down to a more realistic approach. I'll just sit and wait and let myself be surprised by the new elements and returning features and old friends. And should there be things I'm absolutely not be willing to put up with - I have faith in the creativity of the modding community. But first things first... release day....
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:44 pm

I think if anything people are poised to be overly critical of the game. TES veterans basically just wanted Bethesda to reskin Oblivion or Morrowind, while players new to the series will constant compare the combat to the FPS or action games they're used to. The "hate" threads when this game is released will be a healthy mix of the same "OMG THEY CHANGED SOMETHING FROM OBLIVION! RAGE RAGE RAAAGE!" and the new "WTF is with all the talking?"

In the end, though, when you count the hype and the more general appeal this will probably be the most successful TES game to date, unless there's something horribly wrong with the release. I personally like most all of the decisions Beth made and will likely be playing this game for a while to come.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:39 am

I try not to generalize people too much but there DOES seem to be a lot of "cart before the horse" that goes on here (the forums). Its done in equal amounts by both sides of the love/hate spectrum.

But the truth is that most of us just haven't played the game yet. Though testimony currently makes the game look good, the rest of us are only in the "believe" stage. None of us KNOW if Skyrim is awesome or not. We only guess.

In reality, Skryim being good or not has absolutely nothing to do with our hype. Our hype has no influence on the finished product what-so-ever. Oblivion taught me a very valuable lesson about hype: its not worth it.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:46 am

Skyrim is the first game of my entire life which I am truly excited to get my hands on and that's an excellent sign I would say.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:10 am

I think the only people who are going to enjoy it are the people with zero expectations. Everybody else will just cry and moan and basically act the petulant child.

There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but for the most part this is how I see things going.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:50 am

The same way people somehow already know it'll be perfect.

Swish.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:18 am

I could say the same thing about the hype threads too. I think the disappointment threads stand out in people's minds because they are negative which is in conflict with the optimistic of our culture. I'm disappointed and excited about many things i've heard about from Skyrim, but there is a big difference between an optimist and a fan boy/girl. I think its mostly the older TES fans, the people who have played since pre-Morrowind or even Morrowind. Those people( like me) have a set idea on what TES is about, while newer people like Oblivion people think Oblivion was the basis on what the game is built on, sort of a more casual RPG game rather than the vast hoard of complex numbers the older fans like.

I think the biggest Achilles heel of TES series is that it 'reinvents' itself with each release, making it rather difficult to become attached and expect improvement rather than a different game. When people hear of a sequel, they expect Morrowind 2.0 rather than Oblivion, or Oblivion 2.0 rather than Skyrim. For me, i can best sum it up as one step forward and one step backwards.

So you like a vast hoard of complex numbers?
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:56 am

I try not to generalize people too much but there DOES seem to be a lot of "cart before the horse" that goes on here (the forums). Its done in equal amounts by both sides of the love/hate spectrum.

But the truth is that most of us just haven't played the game yet. Though testimony currently makes the game look good, the rest of us are only in the "believe" stage. None of us KNOW if Skyrim is awesome or not. We only guess.

In reality, Skryim being good or not has absolutely nothing to do with our hype. Our hype has no influence on the finished product what-so-ever. Oblivion taught me a very valuable lesson about hype: its not worth it.

Well said. This ^.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:23 pm

I wasn'r disappointed by either Oblivion or Morrowind so I'll be fine here. That's not to say I didn't see things that could have been improved, I just still had/ am having a blast with them. The only disappointment I have is there is no non steam version for a bloodty single player game.

Well I'm also disappointed my wife and best friend won't be getting because of Steam. I really enjoy our conversations about the TES games.
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Post » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:21 pm

But the truth is that most none of us just haven't played the game yet.


Some of us have played the demo but that doesn't count.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:55 am

Some of us have played the demo but that doesn't count.


Assuming that things don't get worse from the demo to release, "playing the demo" is only a hair's breadth away from having played the full release, for the purposes of this discussion.
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Post » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:41 am

i do think alot of you are over hyped from reading some things on here... ive been actually gearing down on the hype and news for skyrim so i dont over hype it myself. no game is perfect no game is going to have everything i want and do it the way i want them to do it (partially because im sure some of the stuff i wasnt just isnt practical)
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