That's all well and good, but I think you're just arguing for the sake of it now. Yes, you'll make things other than arms and armor, but this isn't WoW. We aren't making Titansteel Bars to sell on a serverwide Auction House so we can pay for repair bills.

Skyrim is a single player experience. If we are Mining, we are doing it for ourselves, and more often than not, that will be forging pointy objects and tin suits.



Well yes, thank you for that, but if anything that only proves my point more.

That is what I thought, but you could possibly make an alloy out of silver which strengthens the armor and still adds more of a silver color tone. On the other-hand, one could easily argue that glass weapons and armor are a fairly lame idea in this case too. Maybe if the glass had a TON of layers, and was processed to a point where it's molecules were SO tight that it could withstand pretty much anything thrown at it... which I think actually exists in real life now, but in Skyrim? No... magic could help, but I'm pretty sure there aren't any glass tech specialist scientists out there in the frozen tundra.

technically Daedric is a ebony with the souls of a Daedra infused into during the forging process

Subcategories of armour will surely amount to a vastly larger number of meaningful variations than the base materials realistically could, so I fail to see the point.



The presence of chainmail was confirmed in a recent magazine article. I'll search out the thread, if it matters.

I was thinking more of as protective coating on armor for the richer people, helps against rust as silver rusts at a much slower rate than iron.

Source for "subcategories of armor"?

No need, I trust you. Yet chainmail is typically forged from basic existing metals, like iron or steel. I think Bethesda will relegate it as a style of light armor steel.

Don't forget Mithril Chainmail! That was the only Armor set in Oblivion I could stomach, pre-SI.

Well, the confirmed presence of chainmail, for one. :biggrin:

I recall typing the word special before ebony, the clarification was already hinted at.

I fail to see how.

I wore my Crusaders Armor religiously (C WUT I DID THAR NYUK NYUK NYUK). I'm surprised I didn't scare off NPC's immediately



Because since Daedric/Orcish/Dwemer are derived from existing metals, they cannot be on the 13 ores list.

I fail to see how that confirms subcategories of armor. Chainmail is more than likely just a Light Armor, one of probably 6 to choose from, just like Heavy Armor.
We have no evidence to prove that, but also no evidence to prove otherwise. So there is no "confirmation" either way.

I did not think of that... clever! Also, since we're on the subject of being clever with silver, I wonder if wearing silver armor will make a werewolf's claws fall off when they try to slash your belly! <_<

You're right, I forgot about the Crusader's Armor. Knights of the Nine was actually a really good DLC, and that Armor was sweet, I only wish there was a visible difference in the Heavy/Light versions of the armor, unless maybe the Light Version didn't feature the Pauldrons, I don't remember all too well.

But man, the original chainmail in Oblivion was probably the ugliest thing I've seen. Who knew the tunic would help so much?

I want the Knights That Say Ni armor
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anyone else?

No, but I like the fish in his hand.

The Crusaders Armor was designed in mind to be both Heavy/Light. You'll notice the chainmail patterns on some of the weakpoints (between the elbow and shoulderguards), which could demonstrate hybrid like qualities of the armor.

And WHY did my Knights/Battlehorn Soldiers/Imperial Soldiers/Guards have to wear weak armor?! No Knight worth his blade would wear such scrap metal.

You mean steal armor?

Battlehorn Soldiers yes, KoTN followers wore chain mail. But I, being a PC gamer, remedied this and gave them proper armor

Ah, fair point. I was thinking too much of D&D type systems.

Are you seriously suggesting that there'll be no additional armour variations in Skyrim, though? Both Morrowind and Oblivion had large numbers of armour pieces derived from subcategories.

• Base Material
  
  • Condition/Quality
    
  • Culture/Faction
    
  • Enchantment
    
  • Unique/Artifact

Some sort of dragonscale armor would be neat, and also a ghillie suit for hunting in the Forrest

There's still plenty of armor types possible. Stahlrim, Adamantium, Dragon armor? (quite possible, the bones and all that). Not to mention what we HAVEN'T seen yet. Finding out that we had Mithril armor was very cool coming from Morrowind to Oblivion.

I, also being a PC gamer, think that steel armor fits them perfectly, although in Oblivion they will get daedric armor when you reach level 20.
jokes

But what are you expecting them to actually have?

I gave them modified Imperial Palace Armor, (statistics were somewhere around Ebony). Granted, this is at higher levels.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Well seeing as we are all making assumptions let me have a go:

13 types of ore and going by you theory of 5 armour pieces (It hasn't been confirmed yet that greaves or pauldrons aren't in the game so it could be 6 or 7) (and Orcish and Daedric aren't ore types they are varients of steel and Ebony)

13x5=65

Assuming that there are male and female varients of each armour 65x2=130

Assuming there are at least a couple of varients within the armour itself 130x2=260 (example orchish is steel but there will also be regular steel armour)

Add on to that unique items/artifacts it could push it too over 300.

That doesn't take into acount the smithing on whether you are able to join different ore together example in the game demo we saw an Elven Glass Sword (In Oblivion it would have benn on or the other, so it stands to reason that you can do the same with armour)

... Plus there are other types of armour leather which isn't an ore obvioulsy and hopefully they will bring back Bone and Amber armour types (both are natural resources and there is no reason why they can't be mined but are both obviously not ore)

So There you go based upon my assumptions which have no merrits I admit (but neither do yours) there could be over 400, my point is there is not enough info to make an eductated guess yet :thumbsup: