I recently have started becoming more and more interested in all the lore of TES and a question popped into my head earlier. First, just how big is Tamriel? I am pretty sure I heard that it is twelve million sq. miles. Now my main question is, how far is the distance between Akavir and Tamriel. I have heard that it is only around 4000 miles, however that doesn't make sense when looking at a map of Nirn because, if it were scaled, then shouldn't the two continents be much further apart?

Am I mistaken or are the maps not scaled correctly? Also, on a related note, how big is Earth in comparison to Nirn? Does anyone know this? Thanks guys!

Depends on how big Akivir is. The Illiac Bay was once harassed by Akiviri pirates, so that suggests to me that you can reach Akivir from both East and Western Shores of Tamriel. As for size, were never given an actual estimate or real idea for comparison of either continents, distance between, or the size of Nirn compared to our earth.

Hmm, I guess I was misinformed on some things. Well, thanks for your help!

That makes me wonder...if Akavir is on the polar opposite side of Nirn from Tamriel, would that mean Atmora is in between the two continents? Assuming yes, I guess that gives us a good estimation of where Kamal would be located on Akavir...

Nah, Atmora is to the north of Tamriel. Yokuda is between Tamriel and Akavir to the West, and we know a number of island Kingdom's lay between Morrwind and Akavir from Disaster at Ionith, but no there continental body.

Ah, I completely forgot about Yokuda. Oh well. I like to think that Akavir "mirrors" Tamriel, with the Tsaesci being akin to Nords while the Ka Po Tun resemble the Altmer considering Tosh Raka underwent dracochrysallis a la Auri-El...

Actually, if Atmora is north of Tamriel sitting on one of Nirn's poles, that doesn't mean it can't be between Akavir if Akavir is directly opposite of Tamriel on the globe. Yokuda is west off Tamriel, while Akavir is west of Yokuda. The island kingdoms are east of Tamriel, with Akavir being east of those kingdoms. Would that not put Akavir on the opposite side of the globe? Let's say you journey north to Atmora and you continue to journey past it til you start heading south to Akavir, possibly to Kamal considering the similarities between the Snow Hell and Atmora.

Is this wrong? Are there any maps I can look at to better understand?

There's also Pyandonea and Aldmeris, although the latter may be mythical. Where was Pyandonea supposed to be again? Somewhere south west or south east of Summerset?

I was thinking in terms strictly east to west and didn't consider going north till you reach Atmora. Soo, that being said, yeah I suppose you could technically get to Akavir through Atmora, and that would put it between Tamriel and Akavir via the northern route.


Pyandonea is somewhere to the south, and Aldmeris is debatably Tamriel from what I remember.

Wasn't Aldmeris referred to as Alt-mora in at least one instance? That says something very interesting about the close relationship between Men and Mer that the Aldmeri Dominion is probably not comfortable with.

No, it wasn't. Atmora has been referred to as Altmora.

I still find that an interesting concept. Weren't there Aldmer on Atmora as well? I seem to recall at least two sources indicating this, but I'm multi-tasking at the moment and can't really spare the extra brainpower to look it up. I could have sworn the Atmorans fought the Aldmer both back home and on Tamriel.

There's a reference in the Monomyth to Auriel being unable to "save Altmora, the Elder Wood, and it was lost to Men," as well as mention of Lorkhan and his armies chasing the Elves South and East to Old Ehlnofey, which Lorkhan is described as shattering.

I vaugly remember some reference, but Anointed Anuad would contradict that by the defining traits of men and mer being that men are the Wandering Ehlnofey and that the Mer are the Old Ehlnofey.

I could have sworn there was at least one other reference. Perhaps something new added in Skyrim? I'll have to look that up again when I have more time. I think there's enough evidence to at least not rule it out.

Akavr doesn't actually exist on Nirn, but is a rogue plane that has latched onto Tamriel's dimensional coordinates to feed off its vital essence. It is connected to the rest of Nirn by a transplanar ocean of infinite breadth.

/speculation

or just one of the remaints of the shattered worlds that just didn't make the cut. Sounds to me, from the Anuad, that Nirn was origionally Hist territory.

Varieties of Faith also includes a reference to Altmora, but it's basically the same as the Monomyth one, only with the order of events reversed. Unlike the Monomyth, where Men conquer Altmora and Lorkhan lays waste to Old Ehlnofey, Varieties of Faith describes Auri-El as first defeating Lorkhan and then establishing Altmora and Old Ehlnofey as elven kingdoms.