I think the big problem going on here is that too many people assume they knew it was going to fall. You ask me, the whole MoT thing should have taken everyone by surprise. They knew it was going to fall, so they tried to stop it. However, the machine blew up, and it crashed. To most, if not everyone, they wouldn't know when it did till it actually happened. In addition, the eruption of Red Mountain would have ruined many modes of transportation, and chances of survival, since it was all so sudden.

Frankly, only very few people could have escaped, and I highly doubt even the most powerful or resourceful of the Telvanni could even escape it. People here seem to forget that a lot of the Telvanni are a bunch of oldies stuck in their towers, hardly ever looking outside, completely consumed in their research.

I'd agree with this. I doubt Vuhon and Sul were even telling their fellow Dunmer how the Ingenium worked; I think a lot of Dunmer would have been angered by a machine that required souls in order to run. Most of the ordinary Dunmer would have died like flies when disaster struck, without access to teleportation or levitation, or even access to ships without being swamped. A few nobles and adventurers might have been able to figure out what was happening, but I bet casualties were high even for them. Probably the only areas able to ride out the tsunamis and pyroclastic flow were those coastal areas, including Sheogorad in the north, that happened to be farthest away from impact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroclastic_flow

Interesting quote from that: "Testimonial evidence from the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa . . . supported by experimental evidence, shows that pyroclastic flows can cross significant bodies of water. One flow reached the Sumatran coast as much as 48 km (30 mi) away."


(Not that I'm an authority or anything -- only found the article above.)

Yeah, I noticed from my rough doodle in another thread, Sheograd seemed to have been spared from most of the destruction. While some ash could have spread there, I got the feeling the most of the ash would have went southwards, cover most of the mainland, many settlements collapsed from the impact of the MoT, and further weakened with the violent eruption of Red Mountain.

You ask me, too many people here don't want to admit their favorite characters are probably nothing more than smoldering ash.

To me, replaying Morrowind feels a bit like playing Star Wars KotOR on Taris. It's kinda depressing now.

I haven't played MW since 2005, but I'm planning to reinstall it sometime this year. It is strange at that, to think that the scenic Ascadian Isles region is unrecognizable now. And think of all the tombs and ruins that are even further buried. I've also wondered over the years how much of Vvardenfell's unique wildlife would survive if Red Mountain went up. I'd like to think that the fleeing Dunmer might have saved some of it, though the loss of both animal and human/mer life was probably incalculable. Could any netches have survived, I wonder.

Still, I think it's good news that (according to MK) the Nords on Solstheim haven't harmed the Dunmer refugees and, reportedly, will help them settle in. I think the Dunmer numbers will gradually rise over the coming centuries, though their culture is like a lost Atlantis now.

I think that "gradually" is being too optimistic considering their natuarlly low birthrate.

Only when there is a sizable population already there. Elves tend to have an auto-check on their population meter.

Damn, I forgot that. But I wonder if there will be intermarriage with the Nords, and if that will affect their birthrate at all.

one thing people seem to forget when discussing this is that besides the impact of the moon and the erruption of the volcano, TES5 also takes place sometime around 4E200. any human characters will LONG be dead should they have survived the initial destruction of Morrowind, and the older elves might have passed as well. people and places need to die. i don't see anyone lamenting Marukh or Reman.

Thank you, your Ladyship, Nerevar

I'm sure any rudimentary Telvanni lord would be more than able to teleport away from ash and lava. Just because you guys don't like recycling characters doesn't mean some of the more powerful wizards in Tamriel would just roll over and die to something that logically should not kill them. It doesn't matter if they weren't warned, and I bet they had some warning, I'm sure more than a few of them worked on the Ingenium. Especially Fyr and Aryon.

And I highly doubt Fyr would have died of old age even then.

that hasn't been confirmed yet. it was a rumor that was supposibly written in advance viewer copys of the book. nothing has been confirmed by bethesda.

Thats because nobody made almost a million dollars going through Reman's chests with his permission.


He was a necromancer! He'd never die of old age with his knowledge, he's lichify himself first.

i've seen enough to consider it real and worth discussing, especially when the rest of the discussion boils down to figuring out the ways your favorite character might have survived an epic disaster whose sole purpose was to wipe everyone in morrowind out.

what have you seen to make you believe it? i wanna see to believe also but i haven't seen anything yet to give credit to the rumors.

pictures of said book copy (why would the publishers randomly make up and print a date?) and conversation between dev and friend (friend:"game takes place 200 years after" dev:"how'd you guess?"). this is completely off topic however. even if TESV takes place during the same time as the Infernal City, some 50 years will still have passed since Morrowind, likely killing most human characters.


going through Reman's chest is likely to give you the secrets of the universe. I'll take those over money.

alright well assumeing the 200 date is correct then everybody that we knew in the series everything that we knew would be changed i doubt we would reconize the polictical factions or even the cultures. so they would all have to be dead because nobody lives forever just look at almalexia. Plus the elder scrolls is all about change so i don't see any reason to keep them around

Three different sources mentioned 200 years after Oblivion. We're already forty years ahead. 160 more is a probable, as it gives us roughly five human generations of 'calm' before the big bad makes his next move.

Not in this universe: going through Reman's chests makes you Zero-sum.

The secrets of the universe are hype and money.

It will be interesting to see, when/if Bethesda releases another ES game. I wouldn't be surprised if Morrowind is starting to reseed itself and the descendants of Dunmer refugees will start to return to their ancestral lands. Some, but probably not all.
I wonder if this means Dwemer technology and metal will be more valuable than ever, now that the best ruins are buried even deeper. Will Glass and Ebony become rarer (as they should have been anyway; it's not realistic to have every bandit eventually running around in armor that should be affordable only by the nobility), now that there are probably few mines left?

Glass and ebony are lava rocks. If anything, they should be more common.

Though mining efforts may have been set back a bit. especially if that sea is still boiling.

Descendants? Do the Nords have a fertility potion for elves?

glass, maybe, but ebony is god's blood. i can see how greed-fueled mining operations on a still smoldering vvardenfell could be interesting.