Diyath Fyr

Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Even a powerful wizard like him has his own physical limits, especially at +4000 years old.

I think you have your 'especially' backwards...
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Katharine Newton
 
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:15 pm

You mean age might indicate how powerful a wizard is? Interesting.
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Manny(BAKE)
 
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:24 pm

You mean age might indicate how powerful a wizard is? Interesting.

I agree with the sentiment: simply living that long shows great power in the arts of restoration and necromancy, and when you can say, "...I'll JUST serve 100 or 200 years on the council..." you have had some time to study up on your magic.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:49 am

I agree with the sentiment: simply living that long shows great power in the arts of restoration and necromancy, and when you can say, "...I'll JUST serve 100 or 200 years on the council..." you have had some time to study up on your magic.

wasn't that Baladas who said that?
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:45 am

What about Fargoth?!
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:05 pm

You mean age might indicate how powerful a wizard is? Interesting.

Were you not aware? Step it up jack, you can do better than that...
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:58 am

What about Fargoth?!

definitely dead. If some recently freed prisoner didn't smash his face in, he died when MoT fell.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:10 pm

Were you not aware? Step it up jack, you can do better than that...

Was I serious?

but, then, are you?

ooo, tricky moves.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:41 am

So your telling me a powerful Psijic wouldn't be able to teleport out of the Corpusarium? Lawl.

It doesn't really matter if Fyr had warning or not, and I'm sure he did because I'm sure he worked on the Ingenium, but it's not very hard for a powerful mage like him to cast a rudimentary teleport spell.

And how does being 4000 effect his abilities to use magic, or even be physically able? I'm sure he's a pretty fit old man if he can wear Daedric armor.

Fyr is alive.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:52 am

and Yagrum was a tonal architect and therefore definitively could have survived to to his intimate knowledge of magic and Lava.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:34 am

and Yagrum was a tonal architect and therefore definitively could have survived to to his intimate knowledge of magic and Lava.

i don't think he wants to survive, especially if it involves using his knowledge. throughout morrowind he is pretty reluctant to bring back dwemer technology (including tonal architecture) and is fairly content to let his brethren's legacy rest. besides, where would he go?
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:22 pm

So your telling me a powerful Psijic wouldn't be able to teleport out of the Corpusarium? Lawl.

It doesn't really matter if Fyr had warning or not, and I'm sure he did because I'm sure he worked on the Ingenium, but it's not very hard for a powerful mage like him to cast a rudimentary teleport spell.

And how does being 4000 effect his abilities to use magic, or even be physically able? I'm sure he's a pretty fit old man if he can wear Daedric armor.

Fyr is alive.
The rock came down kinda suddenly, didn't it? Being 4000 means the guy might not have the greatest reaction time.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:10 am

So your telling me a powerful Psijic wouldn't be able to teleport out of the Corpusarium? Lawl.

It doesn't really matter if Fyr had warning or not, and I'm sure he did because I'm sure he worked on the Ingenium, but it's not very hard for a powerful mage like him to cast a rudimentary teleport spell.

And how does being 4000 effect his abilities to use magic, or even be physically able? I'm sure he's a pretty fit old man if he can wear Daedric armor.

Fyr is alive.


Seeing as how the volcano exploded, and the devastation actually caused the water to boil, Tel Fyr was probably destroyed in a matter of minutes. While Divayth was an extremely powerful mage, he was not some omnipotent being.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:51 am

i don't think he wants to survive, especially if it involves using his knowledge. throughout morrowind he is pretty reluctant to bring back dwemer technology (including tonal architecture) and is fairly content to let his brethren's legacy rest. besides, where would he go?

He's head to Hammerfell to explain to Redguard scholars why the Dwemer in Hammerfell, but not Morrowind, needed giant fleets of turbines.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:20 pm

He's head to Hammerfell to explain to Redguard scholars why the Dwemer in Hammerfell, but not Morrowind, needed giant fleets of turbines.

Considering he stayed in MW, he did not agree with the Hammerfel guys, and was reluctant as LN pointed out, he's not doing much. Basically, Vvardenfel was wiped clean, and a new dunmer needs to rise.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:24 am

Seeing as how the volcano exploded, and the devastation actually caused the water to boil, Tel Fyr was probably destroyed in a matter of minutes. While Divayth was an extremely powerful mage, he was not some omnipotent being.

So if the volcano exploded and sent lava all over the place, your telling me Fyr wouldn't notice think to go outside and see whats going on after the sound of a volcano that was basically on his doorstep? I'm sure Tel Fyr wouldn't be destroyed in a matter of seconds, it takes time for lava to reach the water and the island where Tel Fyr is located. He certainly had at least ten minutes to gather his daughters, warden and Yagrum and teleport somewhere.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:08 am

Considering he stayed in MW, he did not agree with the Hammerfel guys, and was reluctant as LN pointed out, he's not doing much. Basically, Vvardenfel was wiped clean, and a new dunmer needs to rise.

I was joking. I'm just pissed that the only Dwemer left is dead.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:59 am

I'm going to wait until I know more before I try to interpolate everything that happened.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:58 am

I'm going to wait until I know more before I try to interpolate everything that happened.


Good point. We don't have enough information. I hope there will be a TES V someday, with new in-game books.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:53 pm

Good point. We don't have enough information. I hope there will be a TES V someday, with new in-game books.

There's the next book. Sul and Treb are still on Vivec and need to get to Solstheim.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:58 am

I'm fairly new to Elder Scrolls lore, despite having played the games for many years, and am not really sure of the meaning or context of everything I've read, but doesn't the http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/nu-hatta_nu-mantia.shtml prove that Divayth Fyr is alive? As I understand it, that series of letters takes place after the destruction of Vvardenfell ("The fall of Red Tower" in letter #3 refers to it, does it not?), and Divayth Fyr clearly replies to letter #3, which he couldn't do if he was a corpse boiling under the lava.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:25 am

I'm fairly new to Elder Scrolls lore, despite having played the games for many years, and am not really sure of the meaning or context of everything I've read, but doesn't the http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/nu-hatta_nu-mantia.shtml prove that Divayth Fyr is alive?

That was before the Crisis

As I understand it, that series of letters takes place after the destruction of Vvardenfell ("The fall of Red Tower" in letter #3 refers to it, does it not?), and Divayth Fyr clearly replies to letter #3, which he couldn't do if he was a corpse boiling under the lava.

Fall of Red Tower means the Heart of Lorkhan is gone
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:22 am

That was before the Crisis


Fall of Red Tower means the Heart of Lorkhan is gone


Ah, I wondered about that. Thanks for clarifying.
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:31 am

I was joking. I'm just pissed that the only Dwemer left is dead.

Well he isn't the only Dwemer left any more ?
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Post » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:05 am

Well he isn't the only Dwemer left any more ?

He is. Every dwemer, including the ones in Hammerfell, were absorbed onto the Numidium as its golden skin. The last dwemer, somehow, wasn't. And Vivec couldn't sense the dwemer anymore throughout time, space, and everywhere else. This could mean a few things; there was a slight oversight of the devs with Vivec's dialog, Vivec ignored him, or Yagrum is something else now.

The point is, the dwemer are no more. They tried to do what the altmer constant dream about, and whether it succeeded or not is still up in the air. To clarify, the dwemer, pretty much, tried going backwards by infusing their entire race into the Numidium to become a god once again; be there during the first strokes of Padomay and Anu. Vivec believes, other than they didn't know what love was, that their desire to go back is fundamentally flawed, and maintains that if one is to reach the final gradient, one has to go forward. This sort of thinking is completely against what other mer, especially the altmer, believe. And to make himself more blasphemous towards other mer, he maintains the creation of the world is Shor's divine mercy, as opposed to a trick to weaken everyone, which practically all altmer hold true.
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