Diyath Fyr

Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:57 am

If Bethy kills off the following people with the destruction of morrowind then im going to be sooooooo pissed off ; Diyath Fyr, Yagrum Bagarn, Baladas Demnevanni(assuming that the Nerevarine didnt kill him as part of the Morag Tong quest), Crassius Curio, Therena(again discluding Morag Tong Grandmaster writs)
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:55 am

If Bethy kills off the following people with the destruction of morrowind then im going to be sooooooo pissed off ; Diyath Fyr, Yagrum Bagarn, Baladas Demnevanni(assuming that the Nerevarine didnt kill him as part of the Morag Tong quest), Crassius Curio, Therena(again discluding Morag Tong Grandmaster writs)

It's all up in the air, but here's my prediction:
  • Divayth Fyr - If he kept up with events, he was either part of the project, or knew about it. After the initial strike, he had enough time to quickly gather his some things and fled. However, I'd say this could not be that high, since the events of the MoT falling could all have happened within the span of a few hours. Travel by boat was probably made nearly impossible. There is also the chance he could have died of old age by TES:V. If he was part of the project, either he's been flung into a daedric plane and escaped, or was was blown to nothing by the MoT.
  • Yagrum Bagarn - Up in the air, depends if he could travel with Divayth Fyr
  • Baladas Demnvanni - If he was in a dwemer ruin, he could have been spared from the initial destruction and subsequent eruption. If he was in Gnisis, it's a 50/50 chance, as there is no water transportation there, and it'd take a few hours to reach Khruul. Transport by water was most likely made very difficult, or somehow knew how to teleport himself to the mainland. I don't like the latter as most stories involving mages do not really rely on teleportation as a means of travel, but as a very quick escape to a near-by, but safe, area.
  • Crassius Curio - EDIT: No human has lived for 200 years, he's dead. If you mean by the destruction of MW, he's really dead, assuming he was still living in Vivec and was still alive at 70ish or 80
  • Therena - Most likely she died. For one, she was too delusional to function, and the seas would have been too hot or was struck by a tidal wave from the MoT crashing on Vivec.

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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:03 pm

It's all up in the air, but here's my prediction:
  • Divayth Fyr - If he kept up with events, he was either part of the project, or knew about it. After the initial strike, he had enough time to quickly gather his some things and fled. However, I'd say this could not be that high, since the events of the MoT falling could all have happened within the span of a few hours. Travel by boat was probably made nearly impossible. There is also the chance he could have died of old age by TES:V. If he was part of the project, either he's been flung into a daedric plane and escaped, or was was blown to nothing by the MoT.
  • Yagrum Bagarn - Up in the air, depends if he could travel with Divayth Fyr
  • Baladas Demnvanni - If he was in a dwemer ruin, he could have been spared from the initial destruction and subsequent eruption. If he was in Gnisis, it's a 50/50 chance, as there is no water transportation there, and it'd take a few hours to reach Khruul. Transport by water was most likely made very difficult, or somehow knew how to teleport himself to the mainland. I don't like the latter as most stories involving mages do not really rely on teleportation as a means of travel, but as a very quick escape to a near-by, but safe, area.
  • Crassius Curio - No human has lived for 200 years, he's dead. If you mean by the destruction of MW, then smack yourself on the back of the head, for he wasn't even there. Remember, he was withdrawn from MW halfway through the MQ
  • Therena - Most likely she died. For one, she was too delusional to function, and the seas would have been too hot or was struck by a tidal wave from the MoT crashing on Vivec.


NOOOOOO!!!!!!! i will never recover from curios death...Uncle Crassius...[Sighs]
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:34 am

Oops, mixed up characters. Oh yea, Crassius Curio is dead dead. You don't find pieces of him anymore if he was still living in Vivec.

As such, I'll be smacking the back of my own head.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:42 pm

What are you talking about, 200 years? The MOT fell like ten or twenty years after the events of Oblivion, which was four or five years after the events of Morrowind. The events of the Infernal City are about 40 years after the events of Oblivion. Curio wasn't all that old, and he was a noble. It's more than likely he would not have died of old age by the time the MOT fell.

Whether he survived depends on whether he was in Vivec city. Even if he wasn't, his survival is not guaranteed. If he was 20 years older it's likely he would have been retired by that time and possibly living on the mainland or back in Cyrodill again. His biggest chance of survival is Cyrodill, since if he lived at the mainland there's still the chance he was killed by Argonian hordes.

As for Divayth, he was extremely intelligent and resourceful. So was Baladas. The Telvanni Lords had the biggest chance of survival due to their magicka and their intelligence. Yagrum is up in the air. We were told in unofficial lore that his Corprus was getting better, so he probably didn't die of that. If Divayth somehow survived, odds are he took Yagrum with him if at all possible. He considered him a dear friend. I don't think Fyr would have abandoned his Dwarf, his daughters or his Warren. He cared for all of them. Perhaps he sacrificed himself to save them. I like to think if he died, he died in this way. A noble end.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:22 am

Maybe Fyr fled to Port Telvannis (see the upper righthand corner of http://www.silgrad.com/oblivion/images/maps/Map_arch_TES3_Morrowind_Concept_Map.jpg )

It's likely the capital of the mainland Telvanni, probably shielded from most of the effects of the Landfall by distance and that large peninsula, and might even be remote enough to have escaped the invading Argonians.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:09 pm

Even if he stayed in his mushroom tower, he could have survived easily. That tower of his was probably pretty well rooted.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:56 am

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I believe he is referring to the speculated time period of TES V, 200 years after oblivion.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:58 am

Bleh, I just woke up from a nap; didn't really pay much attention to what I was writing. Mixed up when the Red Year occurred with the book.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:05 pm

Divayth Fyr would survive the end of time itself.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:29 am

regaurding Baladas I would have to say that he was killed. I'm saying this by going for the "everything that can happen will happen" and even if it wasn't the nerevirine he had a morag tong writ on him and those things don't just go away so i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he was killed somewhere around the time of the nerevarine.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:52 am

ya, every quest in morrowind happened and was done by somebody random OR the Nevarine. The only place where this didn't happen was Solstheim.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:42 pm

I'd rather learn Fyr made the most of the apocalypse and died. I can see him dying in dignity, as master of his tower, but not being a [censored] and escaping.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:36 pm

How is dying from a giant rock obliterating the land dignified? Fleeing from a giant rock is not the same as fleeing from battle. There's no dishonor in not dying in a "natural" disaster.

Even if Divayth Fyr did stay, he would have survived on the pure power of awesomeness as his tower burned around him. :P
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:44 pm

How is dying from a giant rock obliterating the land dignified? Fleeing from a giant rock is not the same as fleeing from battle. There's no dishonor in not dying in a "natural" disaster.

Even if Divayth Fyr did stay, he would have survived on the pure power of awesomeness as his tower burned around him. :P

Yah,i don think killing Divyath Fyr is really that easy. though protecting his patients/daughters/warden could of been strenuous
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:20 pm

How is dying from a giant rock obliterating the land dignified?

He defies logic and the gods.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:59 am

While he's reclusive and enigmatic, I got the impression that he's still somewhat patriotic and loyal to the Dunmer people. He's better to the survivors alive than dead, as his knowledge of the various magical arts (especially healing) would be a great asset to the refugees. It would be extremely petty and selfish, and therefore uncharacteristic of him to want to die with dignity rather than staying alive to be an asset to his struggling people.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:36 pm

While he's reclusive and enigmatic, I got the impression that he's still somewhat patriotic and loyal to the Dunmer people. He's better to the survivors alive than dead, as his knowledge of the various magical arts (especially healing) would be a great asset to the refugees. It would be extremely petty and selfish, and therefore uncharacteristic of him to want to die with dignity rather than staying alive to be an asset to his struggling people.

I like how its if he would of chosen to survived rather than if he would've been killed.
Best damn NPC in Morrowind...
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:12 pm

While he's reclusive and enigmatic, I got the impression that he's still somewhat patriotic and loyal to the Dunmer people. He's better to the survivors alive than dead, as his knowledge of the various magical arts (especially healing) would be a great asset to the refugees. It would be extremely petty and selfish, and therefore uncharacteristic of him to want to die with dignity rather than staying alive to be an asset to his struggling people.

What a horrible characterization, though! No offense to you, but if you're right, Bethesda has another reason to fear Judgement Day. God forbid a fan favorite dies in the TES series. Woe to us!

This is when the Nords step up, to be the primary healers/benefactors, not another Dunmer.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:25 pm

I highly doubt a Psijic would die in a natural disaster.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:13 pm

I highly doubt a Psijic would die in a natural disaster.

The problem is, this isn't a natural disaster.

What a horrible characterization, though! No offense to you, but if you're right, Bethesda has another reason to fear Judgement Day. God forbid a fan favorite dies in the TES series. Woe to us!

This is when the Nords step up, to be the primary healers/benefactors, not another Dunmer.

Going to have to agree with Subadim here. Just because they're a fan favorite, doesn't mean they should be given invulnerability. Divayth Fyr is old, really old, older than the Tribunal. His days are done, and needs to be retired as a character.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:17 pm

If Bethy kills off the following people with the destruction of morrowind then im going to be sooooooo pissed off ; Diyath Fyr, Yagrum Bagarn, Baladas Demnevanni(assuming that the Nerevarine didnt kill him as part of the Morag Tong quest), Crassius Curio, Therena(again discluding Morag Tong Grandmaster writs)


I have the feeling that all of the above bought the farm, either from the initial impact of the moon or when Red Mountain cooked off. We'll probably never know, unless TES V includes NPC pvssyr referring to the survivors of the fall. I wonder if the dead include Master Aryon, King Helseth, and his mother Barenziah. I hope that some or most of the NPCs survive, but I'm kind of pessimistic about it.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:44 am

I have the feeling that all of the above bought the farm, either from the initial impact of the moon or when Red Mountain cooked off. We'll probably never know, unless TES V includes NPC pvssyr referring to the survivors of the fall. I wonder if the dead include Master Aryon, King Helseth, and his mother Barenziah. I hope that some or most of the NPCs survive, but I'm kind of pessimistic about it.


Master Aryon is the only one I care about, he was the youngest of the Telvanni Masters, the most pragmatic, and the only one to care about things going on outside of Telvanni territory. Combine that with his not insignificant powers and you have the best recipe for survival.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:11 am

Master Aryon is the only one I care about, he was the youngest of the Telvanni Masters, the most pragmatic, and the only one to care about things going on outside of Telvanni territory. Combine that with his not insignificant powers and you have the best recipe for survival.

Well, he was outside the immediate areas of destruction, in terms of violent actions, but I'd say the Tel Vos area was hit by the immediate ash and gas from Red Mountain exploding.
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Post » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:11 pm

Well, he was outside the immediate areas of destruction, in terms of violent actions, but I'd say the Tel Vos area was hit by the immediate ash and gas from Red Mountain exploding.


True, but I doubt he was there.
He was a forward thinking Telvanni, so I am sure that he not only knew about the impending fall of the MoT, but also suspected that the impact combined with the volitility of Red Mountain could lead to a disaster.
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