I am greatly disappointed to see this is the route Obsidian decided to take regarding DLC. I'm not entirely sure it was all Obsidian's decision, but this is wrong. I had to wait several months to get the DLC for Fallout 3 on the PS3 and I will be even more angered if I have to again for Fallout New Vegas. It might only be the first DLC now, but that could very well change.

Although the game isn't even out yet this is still pretty sad for PS3 users like myself. Fo3 last time was pretty poorly ported and supported but hopefully the same won't be the case for Fo:NV, although i did thoroughly enjoy Fo3 i think everyone can agree with the issues we had, so aslong as this is not the case this time i can wait for my DLC... even though it svcks.

The main thing i'm interested in about the DLC, like many others i think, is getting a little clarity on the statements we've had thus far.

"All we announced is that the first DLC will be exclusive to Xbox LIVE." - Exclusive to what end? Timed exclusive so PS3 / PC users will get this dlc at a later date? Or solely for Xbox?

I think the main concern here is if, cross-platform, we will all be able to get the same content. Also what time gap are we talking if it's just a timed exclusive?
I think alot of people here, including myself, wouldn't really give much of a damn if we got the DLC say a week or two after the xbox, just no clarity = confusion ..and why people get frustrated.

- Mivz

Dramatic!
Just a friendly reminder to maybe just chill out a bit, wait for more news. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1121813-here-we-go-again/page__view__findpost__p__16502479

gamefly baby, and Its not a loss at all for me I just saved $195 because I had 2 CE and the guide paid off so I wont pick up my second copy tomorrow or my guide and the one I have here will not get opened. This was a simple choice for me, I dont own a 360 due to 6 of them failing on me in 14 months and now my favorite Dev has failed on me as well. I overlooked the FO3 DLC issue because I knew we would get it all eventually and I didnt mind waiting but between this being stated as a 360 exclusive with following DLC to be on all 3 platforms and the terrible time of announcement Im furious. Like I said it was a simple choice, I just hope Bethesda doesnt pull some crap like this with Brink and Hunted because if they do Im 100% done supporting them by buying their games new or buying their DLC

Support you? They released it on the PS3, didn't they? So you wait for DLC. Thats Sonys fault, not Bethesda.

You're exactly right! I (and plenty of others) have been stressing its most likely a timed DLC but no....da hole whorldsz and internetz haz fallen apartz wez gotsta canceeel da preorderz.

Come on guys...you guys get plenty of exclusive DLC. Mass Effect 2, Mafia II, and plenty of others.

Like, for instance...

Placing the blame on a busines for refusing to pay protection money to keep their business from being harassed and burned to the ground, saying that they should have paid just like that other store around the corner, rather than placing the blame on the mobsters themselves.

There's no way you'll be able to get Fallout New Vegas anywhere near launch day on gamefly.

Just a heads up.

I'm pretty sure the original FO3 DLC was described as "Microsoft Live exclusive" as well. We'll probably eventually get the DLC on non-live platforms, but this is still a slap in the face to everyone who doesn't play on the xbox.

Any claims that only the first DLC are exclusive and that subsequent ones aren't sound like wishful thinking to me. Sure that's what you can read into Gstaff's post, but Gstaff is Beth's on-forum PR guy, so it's kind of his job to soften the blow as much as possible.



It's not Obsidian's decision at all. Publishing was entirely at the direction of Bethesda, as far as I'm aware. Obsidian just makes the game. Bethesda are the ones who make the decisions on how and where to sell it.

Many people who don't care about the issue seem to enjoy feeling superior in this thread though.

I see the mods reposting this a lot, but I wonder why. Am I missing something in his wording there that actually doesn't reinforce the very complaints being made?

"All we announced is that the first DLC will be exclusive to Xbox LIVE"
'the first DLC will be exclusive to Xbox LIVE"
"first DLC exclusive to Xbox "

Is that supposed to make any non Xbox user feel better about the announcement? /boggle

Better to just buy it then you have it and don't have to worry about finding a copy to rent or not finding a copy on gamefly because they're sold out

I don't trust PR.

Sorry.

trust me its not an issue, Ill have it in my house before the UK launch.

Are you really making this comparison? Really?? Give me a break.

Not only is your logic flawed, it's also absurdly patronizing. Good job.

Wow. Thats a lot. Sony has the money though. I know they do. I think Sony is more worried about other games than this one. Other games that are released for PS3 only. They don't wanna shell out that money for one DLC only.

Again I think this is all a Huge mis-understanding. I think this has Everything to do with the pre-order bonus packs and Nothing to do with the large, full DLC's we are expecting later on. Why do I say this?

Because Pete Hines and Jason Bergan was on the AVault podcast last week, and one of the reviewers was hammering Pete about the fact that if you don't pre-order, you loose-out on the pre-order bonus packs. Pete lamented that it was something they are trying to work out, wether they released them all as a DLC or something else - check out the last edition of the A-Vault Podcast for specific quotes and details.

I think this DLC is Nothing More than the combination of pre-order packs put into one kit that will come out as an exclusive for 360 / PC players and Nothing More than that. This isn't about PS3 users being robbed or real content! I think the message has simply been lost, and it may be beneficial to Bethesda at this point to announce what that exclusive kit is (if I'm right), as it will alleviate alot of these tensions outright.

Funny thing is the pre-order packs are really not significant (in game terms), and are only useful at Very low levels. Most of us wont be using anything from the pre-order kits after level 10 anyway - so this could be just a huge communication snafu and all Bethesda was trying to do was to get the pre-order content more universally available. I could be wrong, but I'm also not going to loose any sleep over it.

12 hours, 42 minutes to Vegas Time!

its not sony's fault. microsoft and bethesda had this relationship before the ps3 was even out. microsoft just likes throw money at companies to get timed dlc. screw bethesda for selling out again... i will for one and apparently i'm not the only one who is not going to buy this game. well i'm not going to get it new, i'm buying used "that? way the developer doesn't see a [censored] dime!"(quotation from Mega64).

did you even read GStaff's post ?

Really? Me being patronizing but you have been bad mouthing Xbox since this started.

Would it be better for the entire game to be an exclusive? Exclusives are nothing new. And I am happy they at least try to release the game on all three platforms.

Well that's a theory.

And that's about it.

Not just non-XBox users, but XBox users who own multiple platforms but who pre-ordered for PS3/PC as a preferred platform, and who might have made a different choice had the announcement come earlier, around when there was a rush to order Collector's Editions, and to get those pre-orders in months ago. :shrug:

Well that in itself isnt the thing, the thing Microsoft is paying for is rights to sole or timed exclusivity. They hope to convert more users to their systems, thus increasing thier revenue. And ehhh, Sony might have that kind of cash, but Between the two, Microsoft could probably piss money like the hoover dam does water.

@Summer- I agree, it is awesome we at least get the core game. But I think the fury here is that only one of three platforms will get any DLC soon/at all.