I prefer expansions.

Full expansion at least the size and content of Shivering Isles.

Didn't they say they were never going to do an expansion again and then they released SI?

What was up with that? did they give in due to popular demand? was it just a one-time thing, a final tribute of sorts to expansions that they would never pursue again?

Or is this all just one big misconception I have formulated from a random collection of seemingly disparate memories?

I spent more time in the Shivering Isles than all the Fallout 3 DLC combined. And yet I get the feeling that together the DLCs were more expensive than the Shivering Isles at least on the Xbox. So I prefer expansions.
and Xycolian I believe they stopped making expansions because the time neccesary to develope one wasn't worth the money they got from it. They probably realised this in the process of making SI.

I know they already decided how they do their business and don't care of my opinion, but still... BIG FAT EXPANSION or no buy :down:

I don't understand why they prefer the tiny-almost-worthless dlc instead of consistent expansions. I associate these small crumbs of games with the greedy call-of-duty-esque dragon-age-2-esque market trend and it doesn't really fit Bethesda, a game producer that makes huge persistent games once in 5 years, not every year like others :shrug:

Shivering Isles was a test. So was... horse armor hihi

Bethesda likes DLCs more because they take far less time, and they still give big financial benefits, over a huge expansion, which takes much more time, and isn't as financially beneficial as many DLCs are.
Something similar to Fallout 3 DLCs.

So it seems Bethesda don't care as much of what we gamers actually prefer (expansion over DLCs), but more of what gives them most money in the shortest amount of time (DLCs over expansion)

Nicely said but this politics may be an indicator that the Shivering Isle didn't sell that well.

Nah, I don't buy that. It's how hlvr said, they want faster money with less effort.

Expansions.

DLC-sized content will be made by modders. Plenty of it. And it is way, way harder for unpaid groups of modders to create something large, expansion-sized. Of course, there is Tamriel Rebuilt, and... that's probably about it.

Expansions, the obvious choice. Too bad it's not that obvious to them. The Fallout 3 dlcs were [censored], sorry. From Oblivion I only enjoyed Mehrunes razor and to some extent Knights. The rest were rip off.

The DLC model is just so horrible. First there's the issue of many separate DLC "chapters" not having a red line and being one consistent experience. And then there's, more importantly, the pricing issue. Since DLC was standardized the amount of content you get for your money compared to traditional expansions has just plummeted. Shivering Isles seems to be the last proper expansion pack from Bethesda, and probably the rest of the industry aside from CD Projekt and Blizzard.

Those of us who are familiar with paying a modest amount for expansions since the 90's can easily see how much we are being ripped off by this. But the console market does not have the same legacy of post-launch support, and the consumers happily buy into it. Truly, ignorance is bliss.

Yea, I also enjoyed the expansions for GTA IV, The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony. They are pretty solid.

Remember the days when you bought a game everything was on the disc, and no one had to worry about downloading the rest? Good times.

We could boycott DLCs to make a point
But that wouldn't be nice to Bethesda, then again, it's not nice of them to just spam us with DLCs and not give the audience what they actually prefer.

Still, I want DLCs. I just... well, prefer expansions literally 100 times more.

That'd be awesome. Or Ebony.
Personally I'm hoping they make a expansion..I prefer one big expansion compared to small DLC "add-ons".

My opinion may not be that popular around here, but I’m nostalgic of the times when Fallout was not their franchise. They’d have much more time for solid expansions and the next Tes if they didn’t have to focus on Fallout for half of the production cycle.

DLC's free us wither2 and big expansions with a reasonable price.

as for those asking where Todd said the prefer DLC's over expansion packs (literally, with PR reassurance to boot making it sound like a good thing) is in the OXM podcast #4, listen away.

True that, but what's done is done and TES is their flagship series no matter what, I assume they could split their teams to make both Fallout 4 and a big classic expansion for Skyrim at once.

Expansions...

I will never buy either one by themselves. To me that's just a total waste of money. I will buy the GotY Deluxe edition of the game that includes all of the DLC's and Expansions. I am patient, I can wait for it.

Expansions. I've never bought a single DLC. I even waited until Oblivion's dlc was available on a disk before I got them.

Same here. The only reason I'd buy additional content is to play a new story in a new land at the same level of quality as the original game. Small pieces of DLC can't satisfy that need. Shivering Isles was good.

Since PC Gamer started reviewing DLC campaigns, pretty much all of them have been given rather mediocre ratings. The few expansions that have come out were typically rated marginally higher. The small scope Bethesda and BioWare use for their extra content simply doesn't give the player a very satisfactory experience, and it's certainly not what we want from big RPGs.