DLC Request: The Thalmor

Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:41 pm

i was already thinking about that
but how do you think about a thalmor invasion after the civil war because the stormcloaks worship talos and the empire didn't do their part of the white gold concordat
You first have to kick them out of skyrim and than go to summerset isle and destroy them but once there you discover a bigger plot like a powerful artifact that affected their minds or something

Then you have to go to valenwood, pellantine, anequina... the Aldmeri dominion is 4 entire nations (3 entire races). They're bigger than the Empire (And that's counting Skyrim as an Empire asset). The Thalmor are their government agents.

Think of it like Federal government in the US. They administer the entire republic at top-down level, and they have their own independant branches like the CIA that have a militaristic presence and handle covert operations. But if you were to "defeat the federal government" you're still left with 50 states, and the standing army. All you've done is broken the chain of command, but in a unified republic cutting the head off the government won't cause it to break apart or cease hositilies. If anything the patriotic citizens will be all the more fired up to get even with you and the Aldmeri dominion is a giant of an empire to wake.
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Wayne Cole
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:37 pm

They should allow joining them as a faction.
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Claire Lynham
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:26 pm

I think it should be kind of a continuation of the civil war. You would recieve two letters one advertising to come help out either the nords or the empire and the other to come join the thlamor invasion. It would be cool if they were invading high rock and you were either helping to defend it or take it over,
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:52 am

I hate the elves as it is... And then I have some [censored] Thalmor come up to me and say that elves are superior and they are here to guide the empire... more like oppress the empire...

They forbid the worship of a god simply because he was a human in earthly life... Humans are inferior therefore a human cant be worshiped....

If I could, I would take up the chance to completly wipe out the Thalmor.... I feel that they are a evil faction... Just look at the mages guild main quest....
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:58 am

I think it should be kind of a continuation of the civil war. You would recieve two letters one advertising to come help out either the nords or the empire and the other to come join the thlamor invasion. It would be cool if they were invading high rock and you were either helping to defend it or take it over,

A whole province for a game is a bit too much, although I'd love It.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:09 pm

A whole province for a game is a bit too much, although I'd love It.



High rock is small but it could really be anywhere perhaps a series of islands near skyrims coast and your stopping them from reaching the province
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:28 am

Oh hells no, the Thalmor are one of the best factions in game. If there's a DLC involving them it should be with the option to join them, not kick them out. I'd much rather back the Thalmor instead of the Empire or the Stormcloaks.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:37 am

Nothing to me is more irritating than watching evil/injustice and having no power to stop it. Whether you're a proud Son of Skyrim or a loyal servant of the Empire is irrelevent. The Thalmor are, without a doubt the most hated faction in all of Tamriel and the playerbase as well no doubt.

So why shouldnt we be able to fight them and severely cripple/topple their regime? This can still be set in Skyrim; perhaps the Thalmor leaders are personally tracking down a powerful artifact. There's millions of possibilities, but the simple truth is this; I'm confident that the playerbase will back me up if we have DLC that allows us to stick it to the Dominion.

Whos with me?


If they make it so you're able to join the Thalmor, sure. Endless trolling potential.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:58 pm

Honestly, I think that a Thalmor DLC should only be done if the events lead up to the next game, because I think the next game could totally focus on a war between the Empire and the Thalmor. The Thalmor do need to have an expanded presence and interaction within Skyrim, though; as antagonists, they are awesomely wicked, but very underutilized. Personally, I kill every Thalmor I see. I have no clue how that party at the Embassy is going to turn out... :gun:
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:33 pm

I have no doubt they will do this. Everything seems set up for it. Otherwise it is set up for TES 6 .
I also hope that if they do make this kind of DLC that you can choose side, and that it doesn't matter what side you picked in the civil war. I'm all for a joined Empire but the thalmor needs to die.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:44 am

I don't think you guys are listening to me >.<

The "Thalmor" isn't a small faction you can just walk up to and overthrow. It's not even a provincial thing - it's simply the name for the governing body of the Aldmeri Dominion. if you want to make a DLC about fighitng a war against the Aldmeri dominion in it's entirity you don't "just" need 1 new province, you'd need 4! (Summerset isle, Valenwood, Pelentine, Anequina), the latter two are themselves a can of worms because you need models for all of the different khajiit strains and animations for them (passing off the khajiit with a single model is fine in distant provinces but in their homeland you'll need to back up the lore with some art assets)
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:57 pm

That's just it though, the Thalmor are the only part of the Aldmeri Dominion in Skyrim. Government agents. Driving just THEM out of Skyrim is quite doable. If the Aldmeri Dominion was ready to invade Skyrim, with its army, etc, they would have surely done it. Even though the Empire is panned as caving into the Dominion with the treaty, further info reveals the treaty was beneficial to a stretched-thin Dominion. The Dominion (and the Empire for that matter) are using the treaty to reinforce their positions.

Like, RL, when two opposing countries make a treaty, and the enemy sets up a governmental structure similar to what the Altmeri have in Skyrim (not a government, more like government reps). If those folks are brutally kicked out of the country (slaughtered), yes, there will be citizens calling for an invasion, but there will also be opposition to the same. Remember, even in Skyrim, it takes money and manpower to make war. The Altmeri Dominion is far more concerned with the Imperial armies elsewhere in the Empire. Their hold on Skyrim is tenuous, and any resumption of hostilities between the Empire and the Dominion would leave the Thalmor in Skyrim high and dry. There's simply not enough of them to effect any kind of reasonable resistance (not to mention that they are spread out, often less than a half-dozen per city). The Dominion would have no chance at all to recall/protect their people.

Even if hostilities did not resume elsewhere, the Dominion could ill-afford to invade Skyrim if the Thalmor were cast out. They would be too busy guarding against the much larger Imperial forces elsewhere (listen to Gen Tullius' carping about reinforcements and you'll get my drift). It is quite reasonable that kicking the Thalmor out of Skyrim would NOT cause the war to resume if the Dominion thought their position was not ideal for attacking the Empire.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:31 pm

Even if hostilities did not resume elsewhere, the Dominion could ill-afford to invade Skyrim if the Thalmor were cast out. They would be too busy guarding against the much larger Imperial forces elsewhere (listen to Gen Tullius' carping about reinforcements and you'll get my drift). It is quite reasonable that kicking the Thalmor out of Skyrim would NOT cause the war to resume if the Dominion thought their position was not ideal for attacking the Empire.


Of course. Though I'm not sure what kicking the Thalmor out of Skyrim alone would achieve ;p

People don't like them and want and excuse to beat on them, but it's mostly just intelligence gathering operations the Thalmor has there. It's not going to change the balance of power (Even less so if the player sided with the Stormcloaks). Imagine if they kicked the US agents out of Iran right now... what'd come of it? - Not much xD. There's no actual conflict. There's a keen intrest in what's going on inside the country, but cutting off the supply of intel isn't going to destabilise a country or swing the global power balance
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:53 am

why can't we play as the thalmor?
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Gill Mackin
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:11 am

why can't we play as the thalmor?

I dunno. I was kinda dissapointed when I realised the Thalmor acted the same way to me as they did anyone else and the story only let me fight against them, even though the Khajiit are one of the Dominion (Thalmor) races
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:30 am

Just wanted to add to my little argument: if the Stormcloaks win the civil war, there is NOTHING keeping them from killing the Thalmor. THEY have NO treaty with the elves (and likely never would). Ulfric as a puppet of the Thalmor? Even if that were true (he was under some kind of spell), once the war was won, every other Stormcloak would kill elves. If Ulfric didn't join that party, he wouldn't last long as king.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:55 am

As long as it has a complex story and good items,characters and etc.
Not just clearing forts and stomping each last one of them.

Going to Summerset Isles to see the homeland of the Altmer would be good.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:39 am

This seems like the most likely scenario for an expansion; the plot of the game makes this a major source of conflict that is unresolved, and will inevitably lead to war.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:13 pm

Just wanted to add to my little argument: if the Stormcloaks win the civil war, there is NOTHING keeping them from killing the Thalmor. THEY have NO treaty with the elves (and likely never would). Ulfric as a puppet of the Thalmor? Even if that were true (he was under some kind of spell), once the war was won, every other Stormcloak would kill elves. If Ulfric didn't join that party, he wouldn't last long as king.

The Stormcloaks would be crushed by the Aldmeri Dominion. As for destroying the Thalmor, I doubt DLC, I'm guessing TES VI.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:59 pm

I am not with you, no. Now a DLC where we could join the Thalmor and stick it to the barbaric men and their pitiful Empire is another story. Long Live the Aldmeri Dominion! The age of Man is over, this is the age of Mer!


All hail the Dominion! Kill the men!
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