Do you kill Almalexia, or can she be killed as she is a God? Would it be plausible for her to just disappear and reappear as time and space mean nothing to her? Or is she completely and totally gone? Where'd she go?

She's dead. Her godhood depended on her connection to the Heart of Lorkhan, wich the Neravarine destroyed. Without the Heart of Lorkhan, Almalexia is mortal and quite succeptible to death-by-flamesword.

Yes. She is dead as a doornail. You kill her at the end of Tribunal, leaving Vivec as the only Tribunal God left.

What if the heart wasn't destroyed yet, I know it's game mechanics, but if the heart was still there would she still be killed by flame sword?

Unless you kill it too, for its soul, or just for bloody massacre

The ability to finish Tribunal before beating the MQ is idiocy of the highest order and should be ignored.

The Tribunal could be killed when they were gods, but they would come back. If you killed Vivec and then destroyed the Heart, you simply removed his divinity before he "respawned" resulting in the same outcome.

I wonder then, what happens to her body?
Does it end up rotting with Sotha Sil, or is she found and given a fit, Tribunal burial?

But Hellmouth, Vivec's death isn't canon. It's just one of those stupid things the player can do. Almalexia's death is needed to finish Tribunal, so her death is canon. Vivec is still alive because he doesn't need to die for the story to progress. Sotha Sil does. Almalexia does.

For the record, you don't need to finish the Morrowind main quest to kill Almalexia, but there's no doubt that that's the way things went in canon. Otherwise, Almalexia wouldn't have died and she wouldn't have called you Nerevarine.

tl;dr: she's dead and that's final.

For the record, I doubt she would be given a funeral. She may have been a Tribunal God, but she was a traitor. She killed Sotha Sil. I doubt that the people would forgive her. I don't forgive her at all.

It's going to rot. The only person at this point who knows where it is, AND how to get there is the Nerevarine. Sotha Sil's clockwork city's location is a really well kept secret, with only very few ways to get in, namely the ring the Nerevarine took from Ayam after he killed her.

EDIT: Durza, if you talk to everyone at the end of Tribunal, the only people who won't hate you for telling them Ayem was a traitor and you killed her is going to be Helseth and Barenziah. So, if someone were to find her body, she would be given a burial. But that's not going to happen, since no one knows where the clockwork city is, let alone how to get in. Also, I only put Vivec on there just for the heck of it, not being serious.

The fact that Helseth respects that Almalexia deserved to die is enough evidence for me. He's the King, and he'd no doubt have the final say in burying her. The fact that the City is totally isolated puts a complete "no chance" on that idea.

Another thing: 1), It's "Ayem". 2), "Ayem", "Set", and "Vehk" are just the Daedric runes for "A", "S", and "V". They're only their initials, so I say we should stop using them in place of their names. Just because the Sermons did it doesn't mean we should always use shorthand.

Vivec was rumored to be taken by the daedra wasn't he? Seems to me like the devs way of getting him out of the way, leaving the player to decide whether he has disappeared, or has been killed by the nerevarine.

I'd figure the Temple would have the final say.


It's called laziness. Almalexia is too long of a name for me to truely care to write. Plus she's dead. and I know the daedric lettering and stuff, I'm just too lazy to type out Almalexia. And stop making fun of my attempts to somewhat remember her special name, she's dead and I didn't really like her in the first place.

Neither do I, but really, I wasn't making fun of your attempt, I'm just a spelling Nazi. (Also, I've never noticed the first "l" in "Almalexia" until now, so, uh, thanks?)

I cheated. Looked for her name, and copy pasted

I suggest that henceforth we call her Barmy Almy. All in favor?

The question whether she'll be burried or rot is a bad question: she is already burried, and will rot in her tomb. Sotha Sil's sanctum is deep underground and sealed from the outside by a cave-in. (That's why you only visit a small part of Sotha Sil's city, and have to get there by teleportation.)

It's "Seht" :frog:

yeah, almalexia is toast. Even Vivec says so when you talk to him, and he'd certainly know if one of the Tribunal croaked. They (all three of the Tribunal) probably have some sort of bond or something. Vehk was able to communicate telepathically to Almy, at least in the 2920 series, if I recall correctly...

And yet he rode a horse.

Morrowind's version of a horse perhaps... a Nix Horse http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7770/nixmount3.jpg

Anyhow, Almalexia did die, but if the Temple had been able to get to her body, they would certain treat her with respect, and bury or burn it, depending on which they preferred. Directly after the events, most Dunmer still believed in the Tribunal and the Temple, and even after, they would likely still be respected as powerful ancestors. Most likely however, they cannot get to Almalexia or Sotha Sil, and this probably helps keep things ambiguous for a while as to what happened to them. I doubt anyone ever gets to them.

My guess is Bethesda just assumed players would finish the Morrowind main quest before doing Tribunal, and it was probably just an oversight that you could do it before then, in any case, it certainly makes most sense if you wait until after finishing the Morrowind main quest to do it. In fact, it probably makes most sense if you didn't even install it until after finishing the main quest, or at least until after attaining a certain level of progress in the original game, due to the Dark Brotherhood attacks not much reason to send assassins after some prisoner who just got off the boat.

In any case, I think it's safe to say Almalexia is dead, but even after people learn about that, I'd imagine that the Temple would still revere her and the rest of the Tribunal as saints, just as they do for Nerevar and Veloth.



That's probably the case, my guess is that it's a similar thing with the rumors that the Nerevarine went to Akavir, they wanted to take him out of the picture somehow, but leave room for players to decide for themselves what really happened.

You contradict yourself paws. First you say you cannot kill Almalexia before destroying the heart, then you say you can kill Vivec before destroying the heart? I'm not sure what you're getting at there.

By the time Almalexia died (and she DID die, as surely as any mortal can die.) the Temple was already in the process of being restructured into seeing the Tribunal as Saints, not Gods. This attempt had obviously not made it as far as Mournhold yet, as everyone still referred to her as a living Goddess, but within a few short months or at most a year or two this effort will have been widespread by the Bouyant Armigers and Temple Hierarchy.

She's still beloved by the people of Morrowind, and I doubt they will EVER see her as a traiter. Vivec's propaganda machine is too strong for this. He undoubtedly spun an alternate tale of Sotha Sil's and Almalexia's disappearance/demise to his Head Priests. He probably said they also stepped out of the world of the living to look on from the heavens forever. (Which isn't really a lie and would be typical of the type of word play Vivec is known for.)

Nobody would ever find the bodies anyway. Sotha Sil's city probably doesn't exist in any actual physical space on Nirn that can be reached by most mortals.

I believe that all three figures will continue to be regarded as Saints of the Good Daedra for years to come. With the growing influence of the Church of Cyrodill in Morrowind, they may eventually be used as Saints of the Nine as well, in some effort to blend cultures. I say this because of ways real life priests prozeltyze to foreign people who may not identify with the religion they're trying to sell. One example is a Missionary in Africa used an allegory of Jesus being the shepherd of cattle instead of sheep because they didn't have sheep in that particular country. In much the same way the Imperials may attempt to say in years to come that the good Tribunal did their part to fight evil until Akatosh arrived and they were no longer needed.

it makes sense that you can kill vivec and almalexia while the heart is still alive. they haven't bonded with the heart in ages, remember their divinity was like a battery, they had to refresh it every so often to stay gods. their powers were mostly spent by the time the nerevarine arrives, they haven't bonded with it as the ash vampires stole the relics and guard the chambers now. vivec resides in his temple powering the ghostfence with what power he has left, and almalexia is driven to madness as she becomes mortal again.

They're still gods, nonetheless, until the Nerevarine breaks the enchantments on the Heart.

Weakened gods, yes, but still gods. I doubt the powers they have ever fully go away. They probably keep the bare minimum power to "respawn" even if they only tap into the Heart once. Vivec seems quite confident he still possesses this ability when talking to the Nerevarine, telling him that if his body dies he can simply choose to be born again. He doesn't speak about it as if it's a power he once had and lost, but as a power he still has.

I cannot see the Imperials making the Tribunal part of their saints. The Cult is as much their to provide a place of worship for the colonists as it is to convert the natives, so they would likely have a hard time selling this change to their own. As for the Dunmer ancestor worship already has a head start on the Imperial Religion, not only because it was how they use to worship before the Tribunal, but also because the Tribunal essentially just built on top of this, they were still worshiping ancestors in the Tribunal Temple. I highly doubt that Dunmer who have been worshiping their ancestors for ages will simply stop and pick up the religion of the foreigners that having been occupying them. Sure, some will, especially with less fear of being labeled heretics and prosecuted by the Temple Ordinators, but I think almost all will simply revert to the old ways, which is really just doing what they always have done, but instead of worshiping the Tribunal as gods they would be seen as greater ancestors like the Daedra. Because of this the Cult really doesn't stand a chance at converting them, and so I doubt they will risk alienating their own. They will simply keep it as is, and eventually hope to over come the native worship because there might be a lack of organization to it now.

vivec was bluffing, it's his nature. he's not going to admit his weakness to the nerevarine, one that is destined to kill him. he is known as deceptive.

when the heart is freed, vivec and almalexia still retain what's left of their power, unlike dagoth ur who is instantly crippled and dies. this suggests that the enchantments work more like a battery rather than permanent ascension, eventually that battery will run out completely without recharging, though maybe over the course of decades or centuries. afterall all the tribunal secluded themselves to conserve what power they had left.