Does anyone else have to do this to there system..... : V

» Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:15 am

I recently really updated my system:

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OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home PremiumVersion 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601OS Manufacturer Microsoft CorporationSystem Name JERRY-PCSystem Manufacturer GatewaySystem Model FX6860System Type x64-based PCProcessor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. P01-B2, 8/9/2011SMBIOS Version 2.6Windows Directory C:\WindowsSystem Directory C:\Windows\system32Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2Locale United StatesHardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7601.17514"User Name Jerry-PC\JerryTime Zone Eastern Standard TimeInstalled Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GBTotal Physical Memory 16.0 GBAvailable Physical Memory 13.5 GBTotal Virtual Memory 32.0 GBAvailable Virtual Memory 29.1 GBPage File Space 16.0 GBPage File C:\pagefile.sysI have a 3 gb video card

Active Mod Files:

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00  Skyrim.esm01  Update.esm02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.9]03  Dawnguard.esm04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.9]05  HearthFires.esm06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.9]07  Dragonborn.esm08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.9]09  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm0A  AP Skyrim.esm0B  Inn Girls Resources.esm0C  daymoyl.esm0D  Night Eye Overhaul.esm0E  Adjusted Carriage Prices.esp0F  TakeNotes.esp10  FloraRespawnFix.esp11  lanterns.esp12  NoPsychicLockKnowledge.esp13  Hair Physics Project.esp14  More Usefull Soul Siphon25.esp15  DeadlyAimRanks.esp++  sandboxcylinderheight.esp16  AHZmoreHUD.esp  [Version 2.1.3]17  SimpleTaxes.esp18  Better Favor Jobs.esp19  Better Favor Jobs - Dawnguard.esp1A  Better Favor Jobs - Dragonborn.esp1B  Bounty Gold.esp  [Version 1.0]1C  Immersive detection of NPC.esp1D  Kevin's Deadly Poisons - TRAPS.esp1E  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp1F  DragonShoutsRebalanced.esp20  CrimeDecay.esp21  LootandDegradation.esp22  BlackHorseCourier.esp23  AnonymousPeople.esp++  lockpickweight.esp24  No Empty Tag on Containers.esp++  Ish's Weighted Gold.esp25  TheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.esp26  DualFlurryRanks.esp27  EnchantedArsenal.esp  [Version 2.23]28  ElementalFuryFixNerfed.esp29  SkyUI.esp2A  TradeBarter.esp2B  Dual Sheath Redux.esp2C  Extended UI.esp  [Version 1.2.0b]2D  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]2E  Helmless_Warrior.esp2F  KDC - kevinsterable - Deadly Stronger Poisons.esp++  Merchants and Citizens Have No Lockpicks.esp  [Version 1.1]30  PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp31  LeftHandRings.esp  [Version 1.6]32  WM_WidgetMod.esp33  CoT-WeatherPatch.esp34  CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp35  Order My Items.esp36  PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp37  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp38  RealisticRoomRental.esp39  AOS.esp  [Version 2.2DGDB]3A  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-hardcoe.esp3B  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp3C  SOT_FollowMe.esp3D  Tamriel Reloaded Flora.esp3E  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2a]3F  Civil War Aftermath.esp40  RealShelter.esp41  RSPatch.esp42  CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp43  AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp44  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp45  Alternate Visuals for Spell Effects.esp46  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp47  AOS2_GDO Patch.esp  [Version 2.1]48  ThematicLoot.esp49  Thieves Guild Overhaul.esp4A  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp4B  Sovngarde & Skuldafn Overhaul.esp4C  Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp4D  filled_pots.esp4E  JaxonzUtilities.esp4F  More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp  [Version 5.2]50  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp51  ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp52  ShezriesOldHroldan.esp53  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2a]54  I5K Treasure Hunt.esp55  ICHEEWarmInteriorBlueEmittance.esp56  Freedom of Speech -- Dawnguard.esp57  ArcheryDummyXP.esp58  HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp59  DF127MerchantsofSkyrim.esp5A  shezrieshfkitchen.esp5B  shezrieshfkitchenhel.esp5C  shezrieswinstadhearthfirekitchen.esp5D  Dr_Bandolier.esp5E  TheChoiceIsYours.esp  [Version 1.4]5F  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 2.0.3]60  ArcheryDummyXP - Unofficial DLC Addon.esp61  HearthFireHomesNoReset.esp62  BR_HoodCirclets.esp63  DA_Skyship.esp64  DeadlyDragons.esp65  No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp66  ArcaneCleanser.esp67  Chesko_Frostfall.esp68  RealShelterFF.esp69  Immersive Wenches.esp6A  daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp6B  Hunterborn.esp6C  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.8]++  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp6D  Immersive Wenches RRR-patch.esp6E  Shadowmarks.esp  [Version 1.0]6F  iNeed.esp70  iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp71  Gildergreen Regrown.esp  [Version 1.2.6]72  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp73  DrunkenDragon.esp74  High Level Enemies - SIC.esp  [Version 1.6a]75  Guards Attack Hostiles.esp76  VariedCouriers.esp77  vAutosaveManager.esp78  VioLens.esp  [Version 1.21]79  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 2.0.3]7A  Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp7B  Night Eye Overhaul.esp7C  Open Cities Skyrim.esp  [Version 1.1.1]7D  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.5.5]7E  ASLAL - City Guard Extension Example.esp7F  da_alternate_start_extension.esp80  Open Cities Skyrim - Legendary Patch.esp81  OCS + Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]82  OCS - Merchants Of Skyrim Patch.esp83  Salmon Shack - LAL.esp84  OCS - Thieves Guild Overhaul Patch.esp85  Bashed Patch, 0.esp86  WintermystPatcher.esp87  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

I adjusted my options as follows:

*Resolution: 1366x768

*Anttialiasing-off

*Anisotropic Filtering-off

*Texture quality-High

*Radial Blur Quality-Medium

*Shadow Detail-Low

*Decal Quanity-Medium

*FXAA-Off

*Water-

*Land,Trees, & Objects-on

*View Distance all set to High Settings

Im using all the essential mods:

Enboost

Memory patch installed by the SKSE

The built in option recommedator said to run at ultra settings but i was really unhappy with the performance hit in certain areas.

I really thought with my upgrades id be getting 60fps on a constant basis but i was getting like 40-60fps in certain areas....with these settings im now getting pretty much 58-60 fps.

At these settings the game to me still looks good but i was wondering if there is something i overlooked that someone else might see.

» Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:14 pm

In answer to the topic title - Yes, on my core 2 duo laptop

On your machine, I think you are looking at the wrong things to reduce.

The game needs at least a little Anisotropic filtering, for effects like Eye Adaptation, even on my machine I have it set at 2x, on yours I would probably set it at 4x ( and even then thats being too conservative )

Antialiasing has always been a bad performance hitter, but FXAA is very optimised. So having AA off, but having FXAA on I would recommend

I have FXAA on my laptop

So far my recommendations have gone in the opposite direction to what you want, so what to cut down on ..

A question - What was the game like on this new machine .. Before you started adding mods ?

An educated guess but I reckon it would have been superb.

Also when the game launcher set your settings to the generic Ultra, did you then change that by clicking the High button, or did you leave it at Ultra and just went into advanced settings to tweak everything ?

The reason I ask this is because those General Buttons ( Low Medium High Ultra ) set more settings than are available for the user to tweak in the launcher, there are settings like memory budgets affected by those buttons aswell ( which should not be a problem on your awesome machine anyway ), so if coming down from the automated recommendation, I would click the High button first, and then go into tweaking the advanced options ( and having clicked the High option on your machine .. Really you should not have much to change in the Advanced options )

One other thing to look out for - Is this an Optimus setup machine ?

Where the machine decides on a per app basis whether or not to use your dedicated graphics card, versus its integrated graphics chip on the motherboard ( which are generally crap compaired to the dedicated graphics cards ) ?

If it is you may need to look into getting the game to use the dedicated card ..

In NVidia cards its easy, you just use the NVidia Display settings :

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2615/~/how-do-i-customize-optimus-profiles-and-settings%3F

If you have some other manufacturers graphics card - Someone else needs to advise, I dont know how its done on those.

Optimus is usually used on newish Laptops though to help battery life - I am guessing your machine is not a laptop, so this last paragraph is probably not even applicable.

My laptop ( Core 2 Duo @ 2.2ghz with 3gb System RAM, Geforce 8600M GS with 512mb VRAM ) manages to average between 35-40 fps

Its fluid enough for good fights in game, and there is no annoying stuttering throughout the game.

Active Mod Files:

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00 Skyrim.esm

01 Update.esm

02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]

03 Dawnguard.esm

04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]

05 HearthFires.esm

06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]

07 Dragonborn.esm

08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]

09 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

0A Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 1.1.2]

0B VanillaReducedTextures.esp

0C AOS.esp [Version 2.2DGDB]

0D Combat Evolved.esp

0E Animal Tweaks.esp

0F Backup Movement Speed Reduction.esp

10 RelightingSkyrim-NoScripts.esp

11 RelightingSkyrim_DLCs.esp

12 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp

13 RealisticWaterTwo.esp

14 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp [Version 2.1]

15 Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 2.0.1]

16 ColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp

17 ColorfulLightsNoShadows - Merged DLCs.esp

18 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

19 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.3]

1A Point The Way.esp [Version 1.0.4]

1B Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

1C sandboxcylinderheight.esp

1D The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.8]

1E When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.3]

1F Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Colorful lights no shadows helps my laptop averages indoors, shadows on my machine are very detrimental to performance. But you should not need such a mod on your machine, and I would say you are probably being too conservative with your shadow settings aswell.

Your load order - The Bashed patch is necessary especially for Levelled lists, but it is a long way from solving all load order problems on such a long list of mods - What I am getting at is there will be a huge amount of detail in the records of some of you mods being stomped on by later loading mods, no matter how well you do your load order. So are all of those mods not only necessary for your setup .. But also actually managing to end up in game ?

Are they all doing everything they are supposed to ?, or are you just hoping for the best and actually could cut down on a lot of mods ?

When we get a Wrye Bash which can import / merge all the records from this game and all the patchers have been developed for skyrim specifically, then Load orders as big as yours will be viable.