What's your [censored] problem with having cake for dinner? You've just crossed a boundary..

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Everything is always about Twillight.

Maybe that's the secret appeal....


Just like...Halo is for men :gasp:
I never made this connection before, but it's so bloody obvious.

Yeah, it sounds and reads like a really horrible fanfiction, though nowhere on the level of My Immortal.

Not really the best comparison. Games are an active medium, you really play the role of the main character and accomplish - in more or less abstract form - what they do. Passive media like films and books really have to try to become this bad. Character-based fiction is usually the best, where every chess piece has its set of possible movements, every character their motivations. Irrational behaviour like in the Twilight books is akin to a six-year old telling his dreams of dinosaurs and then we fly and crashed into Optimus Prime battling Godzilla and then there were cookies raining!
But enough about Twilight, I wrote a term paper about this stuff. I'm still not sure whether the grade was worth the pain.

I absolutely reserve the right to judge my culture and people as such. If I see a shift in our educational focus and standards, I have a right and possibly an obligation to voice that. People are welcomed to get offended, sure. As long as it's civil, then some good can come out of this.

And it looks like this is turning into an intelligent discussion.



Thank you. That's what I was asking.



Try to stop them? All I said was I don't understand the appeal, like you.


It was an example of people enjoying the more superficial things in life. This question is answered with my first post to Leydenne.

I know plenty of people who have heard of, and even read Ulysses - if they invoke it in a conversation, as a hallmark of literary high-brow-ness, I tend to designate them as crashing bores. (And yes, I have read it, as I have a degree in Literature - so useful. ) Personal taste is personal taste - some brilliant people might find the Twilight series perfectly entertaining and relaxing, allowing them a respite from developing a cure for cancer, or working on world peace. (I couldn't finish the first book, as it happens, but that was more because the main female protagonist is written in such a way as to completely irritate me, and I didn't remotely care about her and her twee vampire true love.)



Heh - I enjoy a lot of french language music, but unless I have the lyrics written down to view, other than a few words or phrases I can pick out, I often haven't the remotest clue either.

That's in English. :huh:

EDIT: Oh the judges.

This is very interesting. I was under the impression that people would only sing a song if they actually spoke the language. According to what some of you say, I guess not. I would never attempt that. Case in point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNQLmHKlmiE

Lets not turn this into another Twilight bashing thread. It's a novel/series, not the fate of nations.

And also,http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1102469-does-everyone-speak-english-now/page__view__findpost__p__16125103.. then it would be helpful not to make try and drag the thread back to taking personal offense on behalf of your country. A post or two went away.

Ah, I remembered what I first thought of reading the OP! ^_^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU4w12oDjn8, without understanding and all that junk.

This isn't new or restricted to American stars
Back when Britain had a film and music industry worthy of the name most of the films and music were still awful and James Joyce never wrote a bestseller

Nah, I can sing in Afrikaans and German without knowing any words beyond those in the song.

Pop culture is universal. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with English or America. Every country has its wildly popular homegrown version, the OP just isn't aware of it. People don't always want profound and deep, oftentimes the musical, cinematic or literary equivalent of bubble gum is fine.

I finally watched Avatar last night for the first time. I was fully expecting to hate it due to the many critical reviews that ripped the story as obvious, predictable and shallow. I loved it. It doesn't mean I can't appreciate a more profound, thoughtful Sci-fi like "Moon" or "District 9" though.

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What on earth gave you that idea?

My fave local eatery is a Vietnamese noodle joint. The radio station they play is a rad easy listening station that plays Vietnamese renditions of Celine Dion, NSync, Justin Bieber songs.... Very kitschy.

2 words

Lady GaGa

I've heard she's classically trained, but the music she puts out is crap pure and simple. Every time I hear "ramamama" thing come on I want to gouge out my ear drums, pour gasoline on them and burn them. It is just down right the most horrible song I swear i've ever heard in my life.

As for music preferences i'm mostly into heavy metal/hard rock and there are a couple of non-english language songs I like. Rammstein's Ich Will is one of them and America is a pretty sweet song to listen to as well. Though it's best to remember just because you can sing in descent americaneese it doesn't mean that you should.

Reminds me of the music a Thai friend of mine showed me, the stuff radio stations play all day long. Basically anything from the 70s to 90s, from Bee Gees to Madonna, played http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulintang style. Strangely enough, there were also German schlager pop songs in there.
Said it is because people rarely want to pay the fees to license songs, so they just remake them with local instruments and singers.

Hmm it does annoy me when my own countrymen sing in English with an American accent. Its jarring to me, like someone from California decided to put on a really heavy Scottish accent, its just silly.

What does that have to do with the topic?

Would Lady GaGa somehow have been more appealing to you if she had been born in Scotland?

Yes, most people just sound badly drunk. I could start ranting about obnoxiously bad Irish, that confuses Belfast with all of the Isle, now... But I won't. ^_^

So anyone who likes rap, pop, and twilight (I'm not personally a fan although I listen to rap) is automatically wrong and everything you like is the only right answer? Kind of self-centered if you ask me... just because you don't like the newest and coolest thing (don't get me wrong I dont really either) doesnt mean everyone else should be forced to sit in an opera hall and spend their free time reading hundred year old books that have 900 pages just because its the only thing you agree with.

Tell me about it. Best novel of the 20th century my ass.

Exaggeration. But I guess I could go along with it. So I'll seek to pass legislation "forcing" people to go to Cheboygan and listen to The Barber of Seville.

Few reasons.
1st off, me being 18 years old and in Croatia which is a small country so we don't get anything synchronized all movies, music, games, many books and most board games, or overall, media is in English, so when I was let's say 4 I actually had wider vocabulary in english than in my own native language.

2nd reason is trying to, as you said, get it big. In many countries certain type of music is mostly represented. I'll Take my country for example. I gathered a rock band several times, and we sang songs in croatian. We couldn't get any "fame" around our circles, because most people also listen to english stuff as well as that the rock is not something you can get your fame with here, so if we couldn't get it in our own homeland how the heck are we supposed to get it outside when people don't even understand the lyrics?
As soon as we started to cover songs from bands like Iron Maiden or ACDC people suddenly changed their minds and our gigs were full. That's why.
So once we start working on an album it will certainly be in english with only but a few songs in Croatian, because otherwise we just spent our time recording for nothing.
It's sad, I agree, but it is how it is.

Is this common around the world?

There's plenty of Rammstein and Enya fans here in the USA, if that says anything (great combo, eh? Got them from my WMP). I haven't the slightest clue what they're singing about, but it sounds good.