Started a new game of FO3 with a new computer. Expected to have large fights in the wasteland with Increased, Increased Spawns. Instead I get game crashes in almost every instance when I go to Raider strongholds.

My new computer specs: Intel core i5, Nvidia GTX580, with 8gb of memory. OS Windows 7 Premium 64 bit. Running around the wastelands my fps 60-95. Inside 60-105 depending on actor count.

With a full mod list, I could not approach Springdale School, or Super Duper Mart without crashing. In fact at the school I never could get withing 100 feet of the building without crashing. At the mart I was 1/4
mile away up the hill, when some raiders started shooting at something in the parking lot, a car exploded, and my game crashed. Upon reload I got to the mart, but inside the game crashed constantly when raiders got close to my character and we were constantly firing weapons.

Same thing happened at Wheaton Armory. On approach, game crashed. Then on reload, I got to start the fight, then crash. At Talon Company HQ by Grayditch I enter the room, crash.

Just North of Agetha's house, I come over the rocks, the raiders throw grenades, we shoot each other, crash. Out on the plains North of Grisly Diner is a mob of raiders put there by Regulators mod. Twenty + raiders run at me, we shoot at each other, crash.

I'm a pretty stupid guy, but even I start to see a pattern here. There is no lagging, my frame rate stays well above 50 even in very crowded conditions. My game turns off with no warning, like a switch has been turned.

I had done some adjustments to the game. I made it large address aware, I put the lines in the ini file for mult core cpu's. I did some tweaking from TweakGuide.com of the ine file. After I had problems, I readjusted some settings back to vanilla but no improvement was made.

To finish off the above, I went to Rivet City for supplies. As I was coming out, the game crashed. And again, and again. Could not get out of RC. Went to an old save when I was in Megaton; tried leaving and again the game crashed. I now could not exit a town. WTF?

Since I was having so much trouble, I decided to start a new game, using just Increased Spawns. Which I did. Was going along fine until I entered a raider base west of Oasis in a Sacom array building. The fight started well, I cleaned out the first building with no problem. But when I went to the second array, the game crashes in seconds. And continued to crash.

I did a test. I deactivated all my mods but MMM, FWE, WMK, which are the base mods I refuse to not play with. I started a new game, set the spawn count to Increased, Increased, went into God mode, and went to Wheaton Armory. I cleared the base with no problem. Then I went to Springdale School. I cleared the outside raiders fine, but when I went into the basemant, the game started crashing again.


My impression is the game can't handle so many actors in one location. When the bullets fly, the game overloads and stops. The thing is, I have never heard Increased, Increased Spawns of having that problem. If someone has a weak computer, it lags. I am hoping one of you smart people may have heard of this problem and have a solution.

My load order follows. The complete list are all the mods I initially started playing with. I used BOSS to order them. The mods that are checked off now is the stripped list I used in my test. Thank you for reading my rather long tale of woe.


[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[ ] 20th Century Weapons.esm
[ ] Big Town Overhaul.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
[ ] lessbouncygrenades.esp
[ ] FireLightFix.esp
[ ] TinCanCRAFTing.esp
[ ] DelayAnchorage.esp
[ ] DelayThePitt.esp
[ ] DelaySteel.esp
[ ] delaypl.esp
[ ] delayzeta.esp
[ ] Delay ThePitt + Anchorage.esp
[ ] GeneratorSound.esp
[ ] UPP - Pack 1.esp
[ ] upp - pack 2.esp
[ ] UPP - Experience Perks.esp
[ ] UPP - Quest Perks.esp
[ ] Karma Perks.esp
[ ] Combat Style Perks.esp
[ ] Perks_Collector_1_3.esp.esp
[ ] perksforcapsv2BrokenSteel.esp
[ ] regeneration_perk.esp
[ ] NotSoFast.esp
[ ] Regulators.esp
[ ] Lawbringer Boutnies Ver1.1.esp
[ ] A Trail of Crumbs.esp
[ ] SniperZooming.esp
[ ] solarchargerzeta.esp
[ ] Echo_BatteryCharger.esp
[ ] BA_InventorySorterGOTY.esp
[ ] AmmoSorter - Start.esp
[X] Sack of Holding.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[ ] Treasure Maps_Underground.esp
[ ] Treasure Maps_Secrets of the Wasteland.esp
[ ] Treasure Maps_A Fist Full of Caps.esp
[ ] Scavenger World - Updated.esp
[ ] Big Town Overhaul [GangStore].esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
[ ] KaBOOM.esp
[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] weaponmodkits - brokensteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[ ] Defender .600.esp
[ ] CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp
[ ] LessPathethicRegulator.esp
[ ] Responsive Kill Reactions.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp
[ ] Useful Wasteland Clipboards.esp
[ ] I'll Touch What I Want.esp
[ ] dd - enhanced blood main.esp
[ ] 20thCWItemPlacement2.esp
[ ] WSG Improved.esp
[ ] Karma-less Petty Crime.esp
[ ] Better_Brahmin_Loot.esp
[ ] LED pipboy light extended.esp
[ ] BA_WRM.esp
[ ] MerchantsUnlimitedCaps.esp
[ ] DN_RecyclingMachine.esp
[ ] Moira 100 Repair.esp
[ ] ChinesePistols32.esp
[ ] DogmeatEssentialToken.esp
[ ] Higher Vehicle Health.esp
[ ] SaveHotKey.esp
[ ] Fellout-Full.esp
[ ] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp
[ ] Fellout-Anchorage.esp
[ ] Fellout-PointLookout.esp
[ ] Fellout-Zeta.esp
[ ] Point Lookout - Items in Wasteland.esp
[ ] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
[ ] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
[ ] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
[ ] Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[ ] Error Fixes V1.5 - Higher FPS.esp
[ ] Error Fixes V1.5 - Mothership Zeta Crew.esp
[ ] Error Fixes V1.5 - Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esp
[ ] Error Fixes V1.5 - Fallout3 Wanderers Edition.esp
[ ] Error Fixes V1.5 - Fellout.esp
[X] patch.esp

Yes. Turn off increased/increased increased spawns for a non-crashing game.

I would also recommend removing plugins that you aren't using - they may cause problems too.