I understant that the Imperial race are like the real Roman civilization (from Earth). And the Imperial have an empire that includes various provinces of Tamriel (like Morrowind). Does the empire will fall like the real Roman Empire? And, will be with an equal end? Remember that Western Roman Empire ended when the barbarians invaded the empire. In Lore, the barbarians can be the Nords. The roman can be the Imperial. If the end of Cyrodilic empire be equal to end of Western Roman Empire, means that the Nords (or/and Bretons or/and other races) will invad and end with Cyrodilic empire.

What do you think?

A common rule is that you shouldn't base real life situations with Elder Scrolls lore. Sure, Bethesda has used many ideas of real world cultures, etc., but that doesn't mean it's going to happen in the Elder Scrolls universe.

There are many groups within each province that the Imperials have no power over, and many of them are powerful enough to resort to force of arms (the empire seems unable to defeat the Khajiiti insurgents in Cyrodiil; a rebellion in another province would ruin it).

But that doesn't mean that they'll invade. Most of them only care about their independence, not the fact that the Imperials have theirs.



Historically, the barbarians were just as civilised and organised as the Romans (at least, most of those that the Romans couldn't conquer had many 'Roman' inventions). In TES, the Nords are not as civilised as the Imperials, Altmer, and Dunmer (although they're not that far off).

The comparison doesn't work, although it looks like it should.

Well, for the fall of Rome, we'll need lead pipes and some climate change. The downfall of Rome was not instant, and there were many, many factors the contributed to its waning influence and collapse.

I, for one, would be interested in seeing the Empire in Cyrdodiil divide back into Nibenay and Colovia, instead of a single unified province.

Maybe thats what we are seeing? Between the Rumors in Morrowind (I don't recall them exactly.) And the Events in Oblivion, resulting in the loss of the Imperial Family, we might see, in the next game, The beginnings of Tamriel returning to Independant reigons, and self rule, rather than membership in an empire. Possibly even as far as City-states. (For instance, I'm sure the Imperial city could certainly fend for itself. . .how reliant is it on other cities, and does it have the political or martial force to maintain outlying towns in order to feed itself?)

It'd be interesting, but I can also see a cultural resurgence in Elven dominance, followed by an (at least) attempted Elven take-over.

The upcoming novels hint that the Empire is able to recover from the crisis and appoint a new Emperor.

I think this would be the perfect time for the formation of a Republic... each Province would send representatives to the (newly renamed) Republican City who would be the lower house (the upper house being the Elder Council). The combined houses would legislate as well as elect the primary leadership position (Prime Minister) and appoint military commanders.

Did Rome ever fall in the first place? I've been there. If it did fall, it didn't hit the ground too hard. Just saying...

The sitting Emperor will continue traipsing about Cyrodiil as the High Priest of Akatosh, arbiters of the "traditional laws", and as liable figure heads under the august, most benificent and serene Elder Council; the only and proper claimant to Tamriel.

Since the Empire lacks an Emperor, and they had been -- even with an Emperor -- fighting many groups of rebels, I think that they don't have the leadership to combat the various uprisings. The Kajiit were apparently successful, and the only reason the empire even still considers them a province is because the Mane likes Imperial rule as it expands his power. The Nords are...well...the Nords, and they are in a massive battle with all of the great houses besides for Telvanni Hlaalu. The Argonians were never actually conquered, they just agreed to pay some taxes to end the war. They could re-make Argonia at any time. Orsinarium will be at pissed off because without an empire to tell them that they are a provence, and they will probably attack High Rock. Valenwood was already under seige from Summerset Isle, and Summerset was in open rebellion against the Empire. They were boycotting goods etc. The Ra'Gada (Redguards) are fierce warriors -- they even sunk the main island of their continent through blade swipes -- and they would attempt to seize power. The entirety of Tamriel is at war, but we all know who the real winners will be --



THE SLOAD!?!?!?!?!?!?

And yes, Rome did fall. It was cut off from trade by a Barbarian who was trained by the Romans in Military Tactics. Eventually Romans opened the gates, hoping that the Barbarians would be nice in return. Something like 5% survived the ordeal.

Edit: Grammar

See, I never really felt that "Elves want to kill humans" vibe from the mer in any of the games. I understand that was a more common attitude in the past, but are the majority of mer still so hateful that they'd eagerly physically attack the races of man (genocide)? I can understand the desire of political dominance - that's more universal, every races' political factions would scramble to come out on top, regardless of race...

5% of the roman population survived?source?(I just want to see lol). and apparently it's now being described more as a transformation than a fall since the emperor was just removed, but the people moving in still maintained Roman culture.

Imperials aren't Romans.

but Romans are imperials.

Everyone has it rough some times.

Watch as the Nine Divines faction becomes the supreme political entity in Cyrodiil.

I hope it will fall seeing as they are cruel to Khajitts and downright assimilative

I can't find my old history textbook, but i remember that is said that only a bit more than 5% of the city of rome survived.

It wasn't often that cities were completely destroyed. They weren't usually sacked on orders from a general; they were sacked because the general couldn't be bothered to control his soldiers.

Most countries that the Mongols invaded had half their population killed, from China to Poland; eight million people left Ireland in the 1500s-1800s, more than double the country's population; a third of the population of Germany was killed in the Thirty Year's War. They are some of the richest countries in the world.



There's no record of that in Imperial culture; the Nords seem to have considered something similar to it. The result was a civil war and the destruction of their empire when one of the nobles wasn't happy with their decision.



This also applies to Morrowind, and possibly Hammerfell.

oh I thought you mean 5% of the population in the western half survived lol

Rome was sacked by the Visigoths who were being pushed into Greece and Italy by migrating Huns. They lost their European provinces to migrating Vandals and Alans. It was then sacked a second time by the Vandals on their way to Spain.
In the Elder Scrolls universe people have said that the book suggests that the Empire has survived which seems highly unlikely considering the lack of an Emperor the devastation as a result of the Oblivion crisis and opposition to Imperial rule that existed before that.

EDIT: it is possible that half of the Empire will collapse much like the Roman Empire did (the Eastern Roman Empire survived to become the Byzantine Empire)
Also setting TESV during the fall of the Empire would be excellent.