Does the DOVAHKIIN have to be human?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:14 pm

There is evidence to suggest that Mankar Camoran was a dragonborn. He could wear the Amulet of Kings after all.


I am going to have to agree with you on this one.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:16 am

This wouldn't be called TES if we didn't have a choice! Of course we can choose what ever we want! :D
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

Or because Mankar was in a realm of his own creation, the rules didn't apply.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:33 pm

Or because Mankar was in a realm of his own creation, the rules didn't apply.

Except you are forgetting that he was wearing the amulet at the mythic dawn base. Which, was not in his realm at all. :)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:40 pm

Except you are forgetting that he was wearing the amulet at the mythic dawn base. Which, was not in his realm at all.


Really? I don't think I ever got close enough to him during that part to see it. D'oh.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:08 am

Really? I don't think I ever got close enough to him during that part to see it. D'oh.

Yep, here is a screenshot of him at the Dagon Shrine http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:OB-npc-Mankar_Camoran.jpg :D
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:58 pm

:confused: Rly? Is this a serious question? If it is, it has been answered. If it isn't a serious question: ofcourse we cannot play as any other race than Nords. And we cannot be females either, because the trailer saus theat there is only one they fear, he is dovakiin dragonborn.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:19 am

Just a point about the Nerevarine, doesn't the Dragon-Born bit in the prophecy refer to the imperials not necessarily the he was a Dragonborn.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:30 pm

No...why would they suddenly force you to play a Nord?
Just a point about the Nerevarine, doesn't the Dragon-Born bit in the prophecy refer to the imperials not necessarily the he was a Dragonborn.

I believe it does, yes.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:55 am

Just a point about the Nerevarine, doesn't the Dragon-Born bit in the prophecy refer to the imperials not necessarily the he was a Dragonborn.

You're absolutely correct. I just looked up the book it's in, and in the in-game book it says:
Lines 1-3: 'Of ancient family, but not of the four great Ashlander clans. Born under foreign stars and the sign of the Dragon -- the Imperial sign.'


So no, the Nerevarine wasn't dragonborn, just born in the Empire.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:02 pm

Why are so many people worried that Betheda will all of a sudden make Skyrim a completely different game from all the other Elder Scroll games? I've seen so many questions about if we will be able to choose what we do, what race we play, whether or or not the game will be open ended.

It's like some people think Skyrim will turn out to be a linear FPS set on the moon or something.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:21 pm

Just a point about the Nerevarine, doesn't the Dragon-Born bit in the prophecy refer to the imperials not necessarily the he was a Dragonborn.

It's arguable. Though the term Dragonborn seems to have many different meanings.
Royal blood- Dragonborn
Born under the mark of the dragon- dragonborn
Group of people who can fight dragons- dragonborn

It's definently arguable, but I choose to believe Dragonborn means you are a child of Prophcy.

Mankar - Open the Oblivion gates (dragonborn)
Martin - destroyed the amulet (dragonborn)
Nerevarine - destroyed the heart (possible dragonborn)

Stands to reason(or speculation) all the acts leading to the events in Skyrim have been carried out by Dragonborns.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:13 pm

It was already confirmed that all 10 races are available and all them can be the possible DragonBorn
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:13 am

I hate to point out this as an argument for the Nerevarine not being a Dragonborn, but it is written in the Prophecy as Dragon-Born not Dragonborn, just a point.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:48 am

You're absolutely correct. I just looked up the book it's in, and in the in-game book it says:


So no, the Nerevarine wasn't dragonborn, just born in the Empire.

Ah, but that's written from the in-character point of view of the priests, and thus is fallible.

It's far from a certainty that the Nerevarine is dragonborn, but it is possible. And it does kinda make sense; Moon-and-Star, like the Amulet of Kings, is supposed to be one of those artifacts that only the Chosen One can wear, so there is a bit of a parallel there.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:04 pm

Well, am I the only one that thinks it would be stupid to be a high elf dragonborn? :D

I mean, the chief of the Nordic pantheon is Lorkhan - the protector of men.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:42 am

It's arguable. Though the term Dragonborn seems to have many different meanings.
Royal blood- Dragonborn
Born under the mark of the dragon- dragonborn
Group of people who can fight dragons- dragonborn

It's definently arguable, but I choose to believe Dragonborn means you are a child of Prophcy.

Mankar - Open the Oblivion gates (dragonborn)
Martin - destroyed the amulet (dragonborn)
Nerevarine - destroyed the heart (possible dragonborn)

Stands to reason(or speculation) all the acts leading to the events in Skyrim have been carried out by Dragonborns.


As said explicitly in the Game Informer article on Dragon Shouts:
The dragonborn are a unique group of mortals, gifted by the gods with the same power as the dragons.


Which really just makes it more ambiguous. :shrug:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:58 pm

No. It's confirmed that we will be able to choose from all the previous 10 races.

Also, there is no reason why only a human could be a Dragonborn. In fact there is some evidence that the Nerevarine was Dragonborn if I recall correctly. Even if I'm remembering that wrong it is just like the past games in the sense of anyone can be the main hero. Any race, any gender.

well i was a nord back in morrowind and i was neravine as well... sooooooo.... :hubbahubba: just kidding obvious we can be an argonian <_<
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:17 am

well i was a nord back in morrowind and i was neravine as well... sooooooo.... :hubbahubba: just kidding obvious we can be an argonian <_<

yeah, my point with that was any race could be the Nerevarine and he/she was a dragonborn :P
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:36 am

what a stupid thing to ask...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:07 pm

Ah, but that's written from the in-character point of view of the priests, and thus is fallible.

It's far from a certainty that the Nerevarine is dragonborn, but it is possible. And it does kinda make sense; Moon-and-Star, like the Amulet of Kings, is supposed to be one of those artifacts that only the Chosen One can wear, so there is a bit of a parallel there.


Which really just makes it more ambiguous. :shrug:


This has always been why I am so fond of TES lore. It's so ambiguous.

Though we can all agree the Dragonborn does not have to be of the Nede lineage.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:28 pm

Not only can the Dovahkiin be any of the ten races, and male or female, but he or she will both make sense in lore and be able to be taken seriously, if what we've seen of Skyrim's character art so far is any indication.

That's twenty options, before even considering appearance, preferred skills and perks, wargear, etc.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:11 am

Not only can the Dovahkiin be any of the ten races, and male or female, but he or she will both make sense in lore and be able to be taken seriously, if what we've seen of Skyrim's character art so far is any indication.

That's twenty options, before even considering appearance, preferred skills and perks, wargear, etc.


a cat or a lizard running around casting spells and swinging swords.....hell, simply talking CANNOT be taken seriously under any circumstances. unless of course you routinely watch qubo, disney or nickelodeon. :laugh:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:22 pm

Dragonborn + khajit + beastiality -> Lionborn FTW
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:40 pm

First let me thank the people who answered simply by saying its confirmed that you can play all 10 races. As for the rest of you fools perhaps you should consider that not everyone wants to learn every aspect of the lore of every game they play. I played Morrowing and Oblivion and love TES so far, however, I dont care about the lore and never played the main quest of TES3 and only played it once in TES4. I enjoy doing side quests and faction quests and searching for powerful artifacts and unusual creatures.

So considering that all I knew was the word "dragon born" then i thought it meant one of two things, A) You were born Dovahkiin, and that is a special bloodline of human or B ) You were born with the destiny to be Dovahkiin. Now I know its more like B, though many of you arent clear.

While I'm at it, does anyone think maybe you'll be able to ride a dragon. I know flying mount its very WoW but the dragons point of view in the gameplay trailer made me thing First person dragon mount view. Of course I mean as a high level yell-thing
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