And that's exactly the dealbreaker for me.

It's easy for those who have never played a game to aggressively attack it in defense of a game they are anticipating. If people should take away anything from this discussion, they should at least see that The Witcher 2 will be a great game, and will definitely be worth checking out. If anyone here is a fan of dark fantasy. A fan of BioWare games, which are choice-driven with a large amount of story. If anyone is just a fan of amazing graphics, seamless loads, large open (not one large world) environments, complex and believable AI, and dynamic combat, you may just enjoy The Witcher 2. Will The Witcher 2 beat Skyrim for best PC RPG? Probably, considering Skyrim will likely get Game of the Year from most places. Overall though, I would not disregard a game solely just because of Skyrim. Two completely different games with very different experiences. Whether Skyrim is better or not, it will easily have an advantage just because of the reputation of BGS and the enormous hype surrounding the game.

Human behavior is greatly shaped by experiences, so you can say human behavior is "coded into our brains". However, there are certain aspects of human behavior which aren't coded into our brains.

The most basic example I can give you, is putting a human being in a situation he/she has never encounter before, and cannot be understood or reasoned based on past experiences. At that point, the human brain comes up with a "concept". If a program encounters a situation on which it has no instructions whatsoever, it'll freeze or spew out a bug and probably crash.

Think about flying. At one point, someone looked up at a bird flying and thought to himself or herself "maybe I can fly". Humans can't fly. There was no experience that could've been coded into anyone's brain that said humans could fly. And probably, based on experience, if that someone saw someone else fall from a decent height, and saw that someone else arms flapping trying to break the fall, the code in the brain would be "humans can't fly". Yet, "something" made that first guy attempt to fly. Then this other guy saw this first guy fail miserably on his/her attempts, maybe even kill him/herself, yet "something" made this other guy think " I can do what he couldn't"... and so forth and so on, until today; now we have planes.

Witcher 2 was designed for PC which has loads of RAM. Expect the console ports to suffer tremendously in one area, because of the lack of RAM.

Some people are dismissing because its not an open world rpg. I am not saying its a bad game or anything, in fact if it were a bit more open worldish I might even consider giving it a chance, but its not. So just like I dismiss FPS, puzzles games,etc I dismiss W2. I want open world games, and even then mostly just open world rpgs I am interested in.

... and, especially, if you have read the books. Then, DEFINITELY, you should play the game.

Less than 6 months between Skyrim and W2. No way Todd and crew can thoroughly play through W2, assess it, brainstorm what aspects of Skyrim could be better developed all on top of finishing whatever they have left to begin with and preparing for a simultaneous worldwide launch, which is no easy feat itself.

Final Fantasy 6!!!!!! I HAD TO SAY IT!

also your name is about FF6 its hard to believe you dismiss a game bacause its not open world....

nothing to do with anything in this thread but your comment here made me think of a funny e-mail i got the other day....who was the first guy that looked at a chicken and thought " i'm gonna eat the next thing that comes out of that thing's butt!" LOL

This is what I want in Tes too, I don't understand why Bethesda can't just give the player more freedom in taking sides :nope: having a completely linear main quest is not quite true to "be whoever you want do whatever you want".

FF6 was open worldish in the 2nd half of the game. Once you get the airship in the world of ruin you can go and do want you want. But that was a long time ago.

@Jim perhaps there Fallout 3 experience will influenced them in SR, it has for many other things. I am hope for example that skills like speechcraft will be dialog options now(and if the mini game is gone it seems likely) and thus gives up more choice. I want freedom in dialog(like Bioware games and W2) and freedom in all the stuff Beth already gives us(everything else).

The Witcher is not a Shooter :facepalm: , look under PC RPG ... seems like you see only what you want to see...
Gamespy PC RPG of the year 2007
Gamespot PC RPG off the year Readers choice
IGN Best PC RPG of the Year...................
PC Gamer PC RPG of the year

PC of course , http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/338/me00010003262hi9.jpg there are many more awards but why would we care is just an average game right? :icecream:

I've still seen nothing to indicate that The Witcher II isn't anything but a Dragon Age style game. Granted, it's got much better tech, though I still think the game looks absolutely horrible anywhere but close up. It probably has to do with that distant "Blur" effect, which is totally stupid to put in a game, since your eye will naturally adjust its level of focus to where you are looking on the screen.

Anyway, Before that comment sparks another call to arms by the entitled PC gamers, I should say, but "Dragon Age-like" I mean in level design and game flow. Dragon Age was not open world, but you were free to bounce back and forth and revisit old areas, which created a much greater focus on the story itself and the immediate happenings of the world. Elder Scrolls games rather focus rather on the world itself, instead of the immediate pressing matters of whatever big evil doodad wants to kill everyone. Even though they may still be RPG's, this creates a distinct feel between the two. I guess if I had to describe them better, Elder Scrolls: World centric and The Witcher (Assuming TWII as well at this point): Narrative Centric.



Notice they all had to Prefix (Double prefix actually) it with PC and RPG though? I think that's what he meant. It didn't actually win a general "Game of the Year' award, I mean, really, how often does one genre really get two or three truly amazing titles in the same year? Genre awards are just publicity showboating.

Then again, Bethesda has yet to reveal details about the main quest, so you never know.

It wasn't overall GotY though. I thought that's what he meant. Witcher was RPG of the year, COD was shooter of the year, but COD was also overall GotY. Big difference between being GotY in one genre and overall GotY.

That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own type of game. I personally do not discriminate based on genres. If there is a quality developer out there that makes a great game for a particular genre, I'll probably try it out. Games like Halo: Combat Evolved, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina's Time, Golden Eye, The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and various others were great games, but they really have nothing in common. They all have their pros and cons, but what generally makes them great are the features they excel at in comparison to other genres.

I'm not telling you in any way to change your opinion and views on other genres. If you want to stick to open-world RPGs (aside from MMOs, there are practically none), more power to you. But there are definitely more than enough quality games that I think are more than worth at least giving a shot.

while the concept is a great idea it's really hard to implement well. for instance, in most of the 'decisions' in witcher (yes, i've played it), you choose a 'side'. that affects the path you take to finish the main quest. however, no matter what path you choose, you always end up in the exact same spot at the end of the game. the only difference is which 'side' you supported along your path. yes, it did give the game some replay value but after a couple of times through, and you saw the exact same ending, just fighting slightly different 'bad guys', it really wasn't worth another play through after that.

Does the witcher have Argonians?
No.
Does Skyrim have Argonians?
Yes.
Win.

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woot! daddy needs new boots! :flamethrower: :hubbahubba:

This is a Skyrim fan forum... expect many fans to be offensive about any other games and defensive about Skyrim :whistling:

I agree DOA is really bad, I always turn it off(even if I have go to the ini to do it like in TW2).

And W2 is not even as free as DA2 in regards to going back and forth like you say, as you can't revisit old places(after chapter change I would assume, unless its really restrictive).

Any game could bomb see Dragon Age? Bomb

He didn't see that overall GotY was COD, not W2. Guess he didn't read my original post.

LOL ok i get it let me do what i had to do long time ago :wavey:

PD: you should get a gaming PC , try some PC games wouldn't hurt anyways have a nice day

@ above : i did read your posts (now i realize it was a mistake) , you always twist them to try to get like you was right , Game of the year is Game of the year and there are categories and this game won RPG of the Year you like it or NOT , bye

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