[Anthony Rand]

Hello all, I apologize in advance if I shouldn't be the one making this thread, not sure what the protocol is on that. But the forum guidelines says to keep OOC chat in RP threads to a minimum and I didn't want to make a purely OOC post just after my IC one.

Anyway, in response to antlive's post in the RP, there is definitely some confusion going on as to the setting here. My interpretation was that, since Denver was not very close to an explosion, the damage was inconsistent, so some buildings stayed up and some did not. I don't want to speculate too much though, I'd like to wait for either smiley or tickchtock to be on so they can clear this up. I think having a map is a good idea, to get an idea of where everyone's action is occurring.

Also I noticed some people have been posting as if the bombs dropped just now and others as if they dropped hours or days ago. Another thing I'd like to get cleared up

[Lou]

Great thinking Caveat, I noticed that the situation could quickly spiral with the OOC.

More so on topic.

I was under the impression that the Bombs had just dropped, maybe a hour a later. In that relative time zone, that's why all these people are in shock.

As for the city itself, I thought that the small homes had suffered destruction but a lot of buildings remained standing (like the market) and other ones with a semi-good infrastructure.

@Rabbit- I'm just doing something data collecting. I always tried to make my villains appear nice, but every time, everybody elses characters see right through them, so I want to know what gave it away that I was a "bad guy", so to speak. Just curious so I can improve my RPing.

[Cassie Boyle]

I thought it was the plague that killed off the majority of people in Denver?

And I also was under the impression that the bombs had dropped the day prior, but that was just an assumption and probably incorrect.

[Danii Brown]

I think that yeah, the population is lower than usual. I mean they had years of food shortages and martial law, then a plague... many would have died or left town. And then when the national guard left a whole bunch of normal people tried to leave too. But I still think that there are a lot of people left in the city, so it certainly isn't a deserted ruin like the typical fallout setting. That was what I think I remember one of the GMs saying anyway, in a pm or in the sign up thread or something.

Yttrium I also was posting under the impression that the bombs just dropped, I was just noting that not everyone did. Again, I'm sure we'll get all those things sorted out. logistical difficulties aside, it's nice to see the variety of reactions everyone's writing up so far.

[мistrєss]

Yes, while it might not have been specifically stated, I'm relatively confident that Smiley and I both intended for it to be almost immediately after the bombs-roughly, at the very least. To those make it days later, you'll have to correct that notion, and possibly those posts. ;] Sorry for not making it more clear.

As for Denver, it should be somewhat like what it would actually be in the Fallout world if Van Buren had made it-where the skyscraqers remain standing, and at least seem safer than the ground area. The city wasn't directly hit(if it was directly hit at all, it was only slightly), building structures vary, and some parts would have been closer to other blasts. So based on that alone, there might be parts of the city that seem(overall) surprisingly well, and parts that are far more mixed, and then parts of near absolute destruction.

I don't have Smiley's definite agreement on this, but I'm pretty sure that's the situation. ;]

[Ebou Suso]

Well, based off of the actual RP topic stuff, he said, and I of course shall quote:

The bombs have just dropped but have thankfully missed Denver. The National Guard has been gone for 2 days now. Common homes are largely destroyed, though the skyscraqers remain standing.

So, based off of that, it has ben at least two days since the bombs dropped. I added two more days: one because its always good to start off on a fresh day and not mid-day so that you can have a full 24 hours to execute things, and the second for no real reason. Also, based off of the first one or two posts, the way people were RPing it didn't seem like they were very shocked. Smiley made it seem as if the world blew up days ago, and when Coveat Rp'ed that first bomb, I thought that was just one of the stragglers.

If in fact, that bomb was the bomb that started D-day (or F-day), then it would have been much more than just one nuke. It would have been a steady earthquake for about a good 5-7 hours, and sirens would be blaring, wayyy more than one mushroom could would be seen, and people couldn't navigate at all outside due to the debris and dust.

Also, it would take at least a week (actually probably more depending on what the nearest direct impact was) in reality before anyone could leave their houses without dying of radiation and the such, but I figured for the RP's sake, that wasn't too deep to bring up.

That's my take on everything.

[Nick Tyler]

Also, it would take at least a week (actually probably more depending on what the nearest direct impact was) in reality before anyone could leave their houses without dying of radiation and the such, but I figured for the RP's sake, that wasn't too deep to bring up.

Reality and Fallout never really like walking hand in hand so there's no point of bringing it up. I don't want t-cell leukemia anyway.

At any rate, the quote might have just been a mishap, and I think most people are RPing in the immediate aftermath of the bombs which is what I think we should go with.

[glot]

Well, based off of the actual RP topic stuff, he said, and I of course shall quote:



So, based off of that, it has ben at least two days since the bombs dropped. I added two more days: one because its always good to start off on a fresh day and not mid-day so that you can have a full 24 hours to execute things, and the second for no real reason. Also, based off of the first one or two posts, the way people were RPing it didn't seem like they were very shocked. Smiley made it seem as if the world blew up days ago, and when Coveat Rp'ed that first bomb, I thought that was just one of the stragglers.

If in fact, that bomb was the bomb that started D-day (or F-day), then it would have been much more than just one nuke. It would have been a steady earthquake for about a good 5-7 hours, and sirens would be blaring, wayyy more than one mushroom could would be seen, and people couldn't navigate at all outside due to the debris and dust.

Also, it would take at least a week (actually probably more depending on what the nearest direct impact was) in reality before anyone could leave their houses without dying of radiation and the such, but I figured for the RP's sake, that wasn't too deep to bring up.

That's my take on everything.

Yes, but that's just the National Guard's absence, not the nuclear bombs arrival. ;] They pull out two days before they hit, being aware of how soon it could be and cowardly leaving. I remember Smiley saying something about how, therefore, the..Styx River, I think it was? Hard to remember, but it was basically implying they were going to Hell for it-which is why I'm certain about them leaving prior to the bombs.

That, or my memory is really, really terrible.

I can't say I completely disagree that it's not totally realistic, particularly with those who don't really seem effected or aware of it, but it doesn't change the fact that, from what I can recall, it was pretty much immediately after the bombs that this RP was to start out.

When I finally have the chance to start RPing myself, I'll do my best to be a bit more accurate about it. ;] Not as much as I would need to to be realistic, of course, but Fallout is 50's sci-fi anyhow.

EDIT: And to answer your question about Denver, the central area dominated by industry/skyscraqers is the main part that didn't get hit, I would say. There's probably parts at some spot(s) or other that's not demolished and such, but otherwise most of Denver should be pretty much destroyed. Not gone, but destroyed.

And yes, everyone should meet up sooner than later-the whole point of an RP(or a major point) is to interact. ;]

[Nick Pryce]

Well, now that both sides have thoroughly and rationally argued their sides, I'd like to make a closing statement before I concede it to the other GM.

Realism no longer needs to be argued. If you want stone cold facts as to what would actually happen, look up Hiroshima and nuclear bombs to see how powerfully and ridiculously dangerous they are. Then you could probably show me how wrong I am :biggrin: I do agree that Fallout reality isn't like ours (thankfully), and only even made that objection because that was how we treated the bombing in New Phoenix (venix's RP).

I do remember something about the River Styx, which leads me to believe you may in fact be right, but I opt that we at least give the bombs a day and not be RPing on the day the bombs dropped, because that would take some real editing on all our parts, because F-Day was way bigger than just one mushroom cloud looming in the distance...

Well I'm done here. Either way, so far its been nice RPing with you guys. I really am enjoying each character's take on life in their current situation. To answer Reidster in-thread OOC, we will meet each other organically. So that's to say it will or will not happen, based on if each player capitalizes on his/her opportunity when they are given -- for instance like when I asked who wants to be my character's next client.

[Bones47]

I had it in my mind that the bombs had just dropped and that only some of the city was destroyed because of the riots. But to answer Yttrium, my character was able to label you as the bad guy just based on his street smarts and years of learning who to trust and who his enemies were, thats just one of my characters skills are, nothing wrong with your RPing

[Jodie Bardgett]

I had it in my mind that the bombs had just dropped and that only some of the city was destroyed because of the riots. But to answer Yttrium, my character was able to label you as the bad guy just based on his street smarts and years of learning who to trust and who his enemies were, thats just one of my characters skills are, nothing wrong with your RPing

Aha, that's good....Wait, that's bad I'll have to keep my eye out for you then.... :ninja:

[Luis Longoria]

I think everybody should meet up at the market than get the most part of the story going

[Bethany Watkin]

Well I'm still doing my client, and after I'll head to the market area to buy dinner. We're still using dollars in case people didn't know that.

[Far'ed K.G.h.m]

It was indeed meant to be about a day after bombs dropped....but we can fix that by just having another post or two from everyone and then advance the timeline to sunrise on the third day

[Imy Davies]

My apologies for not making that more clear. The River Styx stuff was intended to condemn those National Guardsmen for running for their lives without warning others of the impending nuclear holocaust. The fact that they probably would all have lived if not.for.that cowardice is some happy coincidence

[Donald Richards]

Well, after all the confusion I think we're somehwhere near the part where we're supposed to be: figuring out what tot do after the bombs fell.

[Lynette Wilson]

It was indeed meant to be about a day after bombs dropped....but we can fix that by just having another post or two from everyone and then advance the timeline to sunrise on the third day

Oof, my bad. :facepalm: I would indeed appreciate the chance to make a couple posts to wrap before we do a jump forward in time, since my character is currently meeting Xivilai's and also is about to go home and see what happened there, and it'd be odd if a time jump forced that to happen "off-screen" so to speak. So I think that's a nice idea. Then we can get this moving along properly.

Oh and I thought I said this already, but I'm always open to suggestions about the RP, either to improve my own writing or if you have an idea for character interaction or something, just post here or pm me or something.

[Rachel Tyson]

Well as I have said twice, my character is essentially a therapist, so anyone who can tell a rock from a toothpaste cap is likely a little jarred by the holocaust. My chair is open to new customers. It is on the new side of town and it does cost money so bear that in mind. I just need anyone who wants to take that place to tell me now, so that I can RP it that way, otherwise I'll post and simply create a client, meaning you all missed the stop essentially. And then of course we all were planning on meeting up at the market in approx. one hour as well.

Plus, I have an interesting idea for what happens with those rioters...

[louise hamilton]

Wanted to point out to Dynamite and Reidster -- strangers don't give other strangers first AND last names. Just keep that in mind for in the future.

[Len swann]

Well i believe that when a nuclear holocaust just happened and the half of the world is wiped and your trying to survive it's probably okay.

[Anthony Santillan]

I mean, yeah of course that and all but at the same time, what with the riots, the plague, and the National Guard pulling out, people would be very, very apprehensive. I'm just saying that for inn future reference for say if you were to meet another character, or me. Some of the RP'ers your with may be able to exploit you just by giving you your last name.

I'm only trying to help, and if you don't want me to, just say the word.

[Abi Emily]

No i know what you mean and i'll take your advice, but my guys a druggie so he just kinda says whatever ya know

[Adriana Lenzo]

I see what you mean by your advice Ant1iv3. Sometimes in Rp's I think about what I would do in certain situations, and with the situation at hand I would not be afraid to mention my last name. Your advice is always appreciated.

[Claire Vaux]

Thanks, it means a lot, really. :blush:

[Syaza Ramali]

BTW We need more people posting, just what i think.