Dominion Prism Textract (Partial)

Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:15 am

Because what if mortals could easily reach Aetherius? Warlike and greedy, they would cast the gods down and replace them with mantlers.

And the gods aren't? It was always my understanding that the gods are essentially no different from mortals (especially the daedra) in their desires. I'm starting to think the end of the kalpa is exactly what you described, mortals learning to be gods and creating their own world, a reflection of a reflection of a reflection...
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:59 am

It's a set of instructions/guidelines....

:rolleyes:
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:30 am

I don't think this is an in-universe document so much as a translation to moth-talk from the even less comprehensible lawyer-talk. I bet the lawyer version will show up on bethblog.com in a few days. Here's a breakdown:

[(A.) In General.
An Anuielectorate may serve on any other Anuielectorate if Subdivisions within the Prism allow for a Submissions Allowance [Anullowance] into the Dominion within the scope of Article 002851226:
(1) to produce and/or aubric-imprint an ancestral palm-writ for the Submissions Anullowance or its representative to inspect, copy, test, torture, or sample the following items in the responding Anuielectorate's possession, custody, or control:

It's a writing/art contest, yo.

(A.) any draconated Tower Scroll(s) or Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore — including writings, drawings, eyegraphs, charts, inscriptions, echopages, images, and other chronocule or chronocule compilations — stored in any medium from which Memospore can be obtained either directly or, if necessary, after TAL(OS) Biting by the responding Anuielectorate into a reasonably usable form; or
(B.) any draconated tangible Majickas; or
(2) any and all ancestral palm-writ entries onto an echo-safe draconated Mundex Terrene subsample or other permitted varliance possessed or controlled by the responding Anuielectorate, so that the Submissions Anullowance may inspect, measure, survey, eyegraph, test, or ponder the varliance or any draconated object or operation on it.

Send us stories, music, art, sculpture, or whatever crazy [censored] you can come up with, electronically or physically.

(B.) Procedure.
(1) Contents of the Submissions Anullowance.
The Submissions Anullowance:
(A.) must describe to the Dominion with reasonable particularity each item or category of items to be inspected;
(B.) must specify a reasonable time, place, and manner for the inspection and for performing the related acts, especially in regards to the safety of Prismatic Tension; and
(C.) may specify the form or forms in which a Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore is to be produced.

If you want to enter, clearly describe what you are entering, where to find it, and (if applicable) how to use it.

(2) Responses and Objections. [/i]
(A.) Time to Respond. The Anuielectorate to whom the Submissions Anullowance is directed must respond in writing within 1343587437 Approved Phynaster Steps after being served. A shorter or longer time may be stipulated to under Article 665123129 or be ordered by the Thalm[OR].

We'll pick a winner when we damn well feel like it.

(B.) Responding to Each Item. For each item or category, the response must either state that inspection and related activities will be ancestrally chrysalicorded [Upon Palm] under Prismatic Protocol or state an objection to the Submissions Anullowance, including the reasons.
(C.) Objections. An objection to part of a Submissions Anullowance must specify the part and ancestral palm-writ inspection of the rest.

If your entry gets disqualified, we'll tell you why.

(D.) Responding to a Submissions Anullowance for Production of Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore. The response may state an objection to a Submissions Anullowance form for producing Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore. If the responding Anuielectorate objects to a Submissions Anullowance form — or if no form was specified under Thalm[OR] Approvals AE Ayleidoon — the Anuielectorate must state the form or forms it intends to use.

If your entry form is missing information, its your problem to fix it.

(E.) Producing the Tower Scrolls or Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore. Unless otherwise stipulated or ordered by the Thalm[OR], these procedures apply to producing Tower Scrolls or Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore:

There's rules to follow.

(i) An Anuielectorate must produce Tower Scrolls as they are kept in the usual course of conquest (stabilization of aurbicage) or must organize and label them to correspond to the categories in the Submissions Anullowance of the All-Eras Established Dominion;
(ii) If a Submissions Anullowance sent to the Dominion does not specify a form for producing Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore, an Anuielectorate must produce it in a form or forms in which it is aurbicly maintained or in a reasonably usable form or forms [see Article 823589v: draconated TALO[OS] defense]; and
(iii) An Anuielectorate need not produce the same Dreamsleeve-stored Memospore in more than one form.

You have to give us something we can examine, not just tell us you made something cool but we can't look at it. You don't have to send multiple copies.

(AND) Nonparties.
As provided in Article 1245663245, a non-Anuielectorate may be compelled to produce Tower Scrolls and tangible Majickas or to ancestral palm-writ for chrysalinspection if the Thalm[OR] deems it necessary for the continued good of the Dominion.

Employees of Bethesda studios have to make cool stuff for us regardless, so aren't eligible for the contest.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:49 am

And the gods aren't? It was always my understanding that the gods are essentially no different from mortals (especially the daedra) in their desires. I'm starting to think the end of the kalpa is exactly what you described, mortals learning to be gods and creating their own world, a reflection of a reflection of a reflection...

I have the reverse, the kalpa not ending makes mortals gods, restarting it brings it back to zero where it can go again. Like a big crunch in a world made out of solid myth.

It's a set of instructions/guidelines....

:rolleyes:

Yes it it. A set of instructions on how to kill the bloody gods!
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:45 am

I don't think this is an in-universe document so much as a translation to moth-talk from the even less comprehensible lawyer-talk. I bet the lawyer version will show up on bethblog.com in a few days. Here's a breakdown:


It's a writing/art contest, yo.

(snip)

Employees of Bethesda studios have to make cool stuff for us regardless, so aren't eligible for the contest.



That explains it all!
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:14 pm

Ok, first things first, what is an Anuielectorate? Obviously an Anuiel Electorate, a [group purportedly] being represented by Anuiel and, by extension, Auri-El. That gives us next to nothing. They get to decide what things they encode and keep in the dreamsleeve/Dragon to survive to the next kalpa. My gut reaction is that those are the dragons, but then what are they doing being subservient to a physical or metaphysical Thalmor?

Once we answer who they are, what they're doing should become obvious.
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:50 pm

tes lore has officially gone completely weird
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:27 pm

tes lore has officially gone completely weird


Indeed.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:59 am

tes lore has officially gone completely weird

It has been weird since Morrowind.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:18 am

The lore from morrowind is a walk in the park in comparison to this.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:20 am

I like Rhoark's explication much better than my own, which is that Nirn had just got ISO 9001 accreditation.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:39 pm

Damn Jggy and his ISO standards... his order makes us lazy... to lazy to think right now...
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Post » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:46 pm

It has been weird since Morrowind.


You mean it's been weird since Redguard, but, yeah, an easy oversight.

And a S'rathra call back, just cuz: "Weird is relative."
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:36 am

Gah, how could I forget Redguard!? It's the only game with TES's biggest BA eva.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:25 pm

BA?

So.. why is this textract partial. Are we to wait for more of this? Or maybe after it has actually been decrypted?
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:24 am

BA = bad ass
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:56 pm

BA?

So.. why is this textract partial. Are we to wait for more of this? Or maybe after it has actually been decrypted?

Maybe it's partial because, being a set of rules/instructions for something, the full document would fully explain all the weird nouns.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:14 am

Partial, because we create the context.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:49 am

Partial, because we create the context.


Well put. Party down.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:39 am

One thing I find interesting is the way the Thalmor seem to be heavily governed by all kinds of rules and articles. This seems to me to suggest they are either implicitly or explicitly opposed to free will, or aimless behavior. It also suggests a high degree of perfectionism, where actions must be taken in a highly specific and procedural manner.

Question for the lore dukes though; Why do they want to fight Talos? Or was Talos simply chosen for the Tal(OS) use?
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:28 am

They wanna fight Talos because, according to MK,


To kill Man is to reach Heaven, from where we came before the Doom Drum's iniquity. When we accomplish this, we can escape the mockery and long shame of the Material Prison.

To achieve this goal, we must:

1) Erase the Upstart Talos from the mythic. His presence fortifies the Wheel of the Convention, and binds our souls to this plane.

2) Remove Man not just from the world, but from the Pattern of Possibility, so that the very idea of them can be forgotten and thereby never again repeated.

3) With Talos and the Sons of Talos removed, the Dragon will become ours to unbind. The world of mortals will be over. The Dragon will uncoil his hold on the stagnancy of linear time and move as Free Serpent again, moving through the Aether without measure or burden, spilling time along the innumerable roads we once travelled. And with that we will regain the mantle of the imperishable spirit.

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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:14 pm

One thing I find interesting is the way the Thalmor seem to be heavily governed by all kinds of rules and articles. This seems to me to suggest they are either implicitly or explicitly opposed to free will, or aimless behavior. It also suggests a high degree of perfectionism, where actions must be taken in a highly specific and procedural manner.
Nothing we didn't already know, the Altmer are highly regimented and have a very structured society, striving for perfectionism. They kill defective babies after all.

Question for the lore dukes though; Why do they want to fight Talos? Or was Talos simply chosen for the Tal(OS) use?
What a question. Well, let's keep it to the stuff done in the second-era. First, he's a mortal ascended to divinity, a feat that they strive for, but representing a diametrically opposed viewpoint. Second, he's the divine manifestation of Tiber Septim, the only human who conquered them and their superiority complexes. Third, he's a stand-in for Lorkhan, their hated devil-child. And fourth, and probably most importantly, he used Numidium to subjugate them. That mythic event has indelibly affected everything that they do now, from way back in the dawn era to all the way to the end of time. When they talk about subverting the Tal[OS], my money's on them working around that.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:01 am

The Scarcity of Elven Writings

Much of the blame for this can be laid on the Alessian Order, which was tireless in ferreting out and destroying Elven writings during its long dominance. Today, we are left with the beautiful heresies of the Anuad, surviving only by virtue of their popularity and proliferation, and perhaps a dozen more works of lesser reknown. This, though, does not explain fully the scarcity of Elven letters. We might turn to Dylxexes, an early human scholar, for another answer. After studying the financial records of the Direnni Hegemony, a High Elven merchant family that exploited the human kingdoms of its day, he had this to say: "These [records] may help to explain why so much of Aldmeri literature is forbidden, scorned, or untranslated, for I have seen [their] like before. The Direnni were either exceedingly paranoid or their system of economy so inextricably linked with dangerous theosophist numeral-symbolism that much of what is recorded here requires... sorcerous precautions on the part of the reader. [Hidden magic] is everywhere incorporated in their writings... signs and preternatural runes and [correspondences]... in expenditure columns, even, or margins [that] can be fatal to the uninitiated. Crucial pages were covered with the spittle of the previous translator, who had babbled idiotically over the text for days before catching fire."
Now I understand.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:42 pm

What. My mind might be overloading from too much lore too fast, but this gives me the impression that somehow the Thalmor will be the indirect "antagonists", to use such language, of TESV. What am I smoking?

TES lore is really like a drug. The feeling you get when you realize a new bit of lore is truly psychedelic. This is only tangentially related to this topic, but it's not worth making a new thread for... It seems that if Akatosh is the God of Time, Lorkhan is the God of Space? Am I justified in this impression? If so, it gives a whole new fascinating facet to the interplay between them.
(If not, I can hardly be blamed for not understanding this stuff. :blush: )

To clarify on my previous impression...
3) With Talos and the Sons of Talos removed, the Dragon will become ours to unbind. The world of mortals will be over. The Dragon will uncoil his hold on the stagnancy of linear time and move as Free Serpent again, moving through the Aether without measure or burden, spilling time along the innumerable roads we once travelled. And with that we will regain the mantle of the imperishable spirit.

If I'm reading this correctly, it means that they want to get rid of Lorkhan and his influence upon the world (as represented by Talos and men in general)? By having Alduin eat the world (The Dragon uncoiling his hold), they'll return it to a Dawn Era state, freeing them of mortality and structured existence? Or do I misunderstand how kalpa-eating works? (I haven't looked into that subject much until now.)

Also, if you don't mind the questions, what's meant by the Wheel "turning"? I've never heard it referred to as being in motion before, that I recall.
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Post » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:25 am

MK said Alduin will literally eat the world.
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