One thing everyone seems to forget is that the Empire isn't just Cyrodiil. If the Imperials were alone then yes, Morrowind with it's ALMSIVI and whatnot would kick their ass, but the Empire is everyone else too.

So to make it simpler:
1. Altmeri wizards and powerful Bretons would face the Telvanni .. and win so bad I wouldn't be surprised if half of Vvardenfell (the eastern one) would be erased from the maps.
2. The Legions would flood the mainland and easily win, while Vvardenfell would probably be just de-telvanized and left to rot.

There's no way Morrowind could stand agains the might of a unified Empire. Don't forget that Uriel was no fool. Before his kidnapping he was actually quite militaristic about things, and even afterwards he was able to glue things together.

Of course, should the attempt be made during Tharn's reign then we're in a different situation. Or other emperors for that matter (not all of course, others were capable as well).

Thats what I use when I need to find my sources, its alot fast then going in game. Do they have character scripts or whatever? I havn't ever looked.

I'm not sure where I read this, but I read somewhere that Hlaalu, who would benefit from annexation, and Redoran, who would be the ones that had to fight the Legion, supported the armistics. Telvanni didn't care so they said "go ahead"; I wouldn't be surprised if Hlaalu bought their vote.

The Empire had not conquered High Rock or the Aldermeri yet. Well, the Aldmeri Dominion anyway. And you forget, the Altmer are pansies against a good fireball.

Why is everyone talking about the Telvanni? Whilst I think they would be a deadly addition to any military, they simply didn't care then, and don't care now. They should be left out of any equation.

Either way. Morrowind had Almsivi to protect it. Almsivi, Almsivi, Almsivi.

Hlaalu had developed strong trading ties with the empire, while Dres, Redoran and Indoril wanted to go to war. Telvanni, like always, only care about themselfs.

Lord Hyamentar - Exactly, I have no idea either, Telvanni never gave a hoot about what happened to the rest of Morrowind.

Considering that the Reman Empire nearly had Morrowind, I would say that Tiber Septim could probably do it too.

That's of no consequence. Ocato is Altmer, so are many mages in the guild and elsewhere, who seem to be pretty imperialistic about things. Altmer are susceptible to magic but that's the thing in wars. Mages don't go "directly" against each other (my bad in the last post). It's which side can kill more troops with magic kind of thing.

True about Telvanni.

ALMSIVI is irrelevant during the life of Uriel VII.

Why is that? During Uriel VII's reign, there are 4 Gods in Morrowind.

They svcked the heart a loong time ago (sorry, can't source this, am not 100% sure tbh) and are nothing else but mortal remains (Sotha might be already dead or in "don't care, just kill me" state, Alma is raving about losing power and Vivec is just trying to hold the Fence and his own Poop in place making a sweat out of it).

OT:

This is actually quite hilarious..

imagine them in one room. Vivec sitting in the middle in his pose, huffing and puffing and looking silly trying to hold the Fence at a distance, Alma just [censored]ing about it and Sotha going all emo on them.

And then they receive the news about an Imperial invasion... I can just picture Vivec's face going "oh f..."

I LOLed myself..

It is all dependant on when you decide to judge the situation. Five years after the Nerevarine has come? Then yes ALMSIVI is Vehk. 60 years ago? When Uriel ascended to the throne, it may have been a different matter. The Tribunes were still active, despite having not bathed in the Heart's power for an age, they were still powerful.

What about the Blight? Dagoth Ur and his kin? I think we all forget that these are the real teeth-gnashing Empire-haters, without the Tribunal they're set loose, and remember the Sixth House' got hold of some of the biggest weapons since ol' Tiber.

Completely wrong however: Vivec seeing who and what Talos really is, opening negociations and giving him the reins of the thing that doomed a race, which will help transform his soul into a confused muddle of contrary beings and shatter Akatosh twice.

I know why he signed the treaty, but I couldn't help myself when I envisioned that

So Tiber Septim got Morrowind and the stompy robot. Batteries not included.

They had plenty of batteries! That's what Battlemages are for.

But Hjalti just HAD to choose the one attached to his chest by an invisible electrode...

O.K. all you have to do is read the book,On Morrowind it goes into detail on how the Telvanni remaining netural that the House of Redoran and Hlaalu knew without the Telvanni their battle was futile.

That's a rather stilted reading of On Morrowind, I dare say. Yes, Telvanni remained neutral. But the text says nothing about the other houses viewing battle without Telvanni as futile. Redoran's problem was that Indoril and Dres had proposed abandoning a straight fight to engage in guerilla warfare (in the interior), which would have left Redoran defending Morrowind's borders alone. Hlaalu favored accommodation from the beginning, Telvanni or no Telvanni--war would have been bad for trade.

So you are saying if the Telvanni had decided to fight nothing would have changed.The Hllaalu accomotated because the Telvanni were netrual.It also states Morrowind armies were nothing but ragtag militias,so it would appear their only hope were the Telvanni and like I said in the first post I put up.This is what led to the bitterness to the Telvanni.

Vivec capitulated right away not just because of the fact that his people would die trying to thwart the Imperials, but because he probably knew full well just what Tiber Septim was. Being a demigod affords you certain insights into the mythical forces at work... V decided the wisest thing to do was to stay on this mythically important person's good side.

Even with the Telvanni, I doubt that they'd make a difference. Most of their muscle came from foreign mercenaries, and most of Telvanni are spellswords, hedge wizards, and guards. I don't think that even if they all helped, the outcome would have been much different.

I rather doubt that the other great houses were depending on the Telvanni to do anything but remain neutral. If the Telvanni had decided to fight things may have been different... but note that once V'vehk announced the treaty, Telvanni rather quickly decided to back it. Even if Telvanni had decided to fight, it is very likely they would have agreed to do so in guerilla fashion like Indoril and Dres--thus changing nothing for Redoran. Note that also that Hlaalu favored accommodation from the beginning. The whole time. Hlaalu did not make it's decision based on any action or inaction of Telvanni.

Hmpf. ALMSIVI is just as mythic as TIBER/TALOS/YSMIR.

I agree,even if the Telvanni would have fought they were going to lose,and Vivic saw this however what I said in the beginning was without them there was no chance.And this is what led to the whole Telvanni are garbage type thinking in Morrowind.Heck I even stated in my first post the Empire would have sliced through like a hot knife to butter.But espeacially if you take the Telvanni out of the equation.Imperial Battlemages would have found no resistance.

The Daedra seemed to slice through the Battlespire like butter, IIRC.

Well, I still rather doubt that it would an easy victory for the young empire. As others have noted, the original clash between the Reman empire and Morrowind lasted 80 years. A guerilla defense of Morrowind would likely have been pretty effective--and extremely bloody. I think that Tiber Septim would have eventually won, but at great cost. Remember that he had only recently conquered Hammerfell, and it's doubtful he could have pulled too many soldiers out of that province. If a war in Morrowind had bogged down and he did call for soldiers, Hammerfell could have revolted, leaving Talos with war on two fronts. I think that a war in Morrowind would have run a very real risk of tearing Tiber Septim's new empire apart, making his (likely) victory essentially a pyrrhic victory.