Re-done weapons stats : Othor Games

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:11 am

I still don't see how all the SMGs can have the same rate of fire. I will bet money that the Kross fires way faster than the Carb-9, for example.

I agree that the tables arent 100% accurate but at least they give you a basic understanding of the guns, like im sure they wouldnt make all the smgs have the same fire rate that would make them far too similar so i wouldnt read too much into it.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:50 am

*Looks at completed, but now obsolete, data table*

:sadvaultboy:

Aaaawwwwwwwwwwwww Rammite we love your work...

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:22 pm

Does this mean that 3 shots from the Ritchie will take down an unbuffed heavy? :celebration:

Apparently, it seems that the pistols and revolvers will be more of a threat then I first thought.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:01 am

I'm liking how the Belgo machine pistol fires at shot every .064 seconds..............slide and spray with that is going to be fun.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:02 am

Rifles
Rokstedi 54 .256 Semi 15 150 2.2

[censored] YES, IT'S A [censored]ING 3-SHOT-KILL! PERFECT!! OMG OMG OMG OMG SQUEEAAALL :wub:

Anyways, this pretty much confirms that the Rokstedi will be my favorite AR, possibly gun full-stop, in the whole game. It's about as close as I'll ever get to MAG or BC2's M14 EBR.

Semi-auto rifles have always been my thang :disguise:

» Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:36 pm

Where's the accuracy, or am I missing something?

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:59 am

[censored] YES, IT'S A [censored]ING 3-SHOT-KILL! PERFECT!! OMG OMG OMG OMG SQUEEAAALL :wub:

Anyways, this pretty much confirms that the Rokstedi will be my favorite AR, possibly gun full-stop, in the whole game. It's about as close as I'll ever get to MAG or BC2's M14 EBR.

Semi-auto rifles have always been my thang :disguise:

4 shot kill... and the longest TTK of the rifles on a heavy with 180 hp. I'm sure that's unbuffed health too. I'd need to see the guide for myself, but things don't seem right. *Inner min-maxer starts crunching numbers.*

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:05 am

Where's the accuracy, or am I missing something?

I think it would be hard to rate accuracy, no? I mean giving a actual number that would be fairly difficult.
Mind you, guns with large ammo capacities and high rates of fire tend to be inaccurate, low ROF and ammo clips tend to be more accurate. (generally speaking)

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:45 am

Thanks.

Maybe u could add some color,like this?

Name Damage ROF Fire Mode Clip Ammo Reload Speed

or something?

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m574/Jaina_SoIo/Stats.jpg

Full credit to SUK_A_FACE for all of the information, all I did was add some color (I know how hard it is to do this with the forum editor, and I understand why the original poster did not add color.)
Hope this helps. :smile:

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:36 am

4 shot kill... and the longest TTK of the rifles on a heavy with 180 hp. I'm sure that's unbuffed health too. I'd need to see the guide for myself, but things don't seem right. *Inner min-maxer starts crunching numbers.*

My bad. Well, with 54 damage, the Rokstedi it should 3SI (3 shot incapacitate) un-buffed Light & Medium, and 3SI buffed Light & maybe slightly-buffed Medium. 4 shot incapacitation for the rest, still sounds reasonable! That's not counting headshots, too. Tbh it sounds like it'll be a hard-mode weapon, but just as effective as BC2's M14 in the right hands... aka, MINE. :biggrin:

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:50 am

[Name] ---- [Damage] [ROF] [Fire Mode] [Clip] [Ammo] [Reload Speed] [TTK]

Pistols
[Kalt]________30_____.16_____Semi________12_____60_______1.2_________.64
[Tokmak]______24_____.128____Semi________18_____60_______1.6_________.64
[Belgo MP]____18_____.064____Auto________20_____60_______1.6_________.448
[Sea Eagle]___55_____.24_____Semi________10_____60_______1.6_________.48

SMG
[Kross]_______18_____.064____Auto________35_____200______1.75________.448
[Galactic]____17_____.064____Auto________45_____200______2___________.512
[Bulpdaun]____20_____.064____Auto________27_____200______2.23________.448
[Carb-9]______23_____.064____Auto________30_____200______1.89________.384
[Tampa]_______22_____.064____Auto________30_____200______1.2_________.384

Rifles
[Gerund]______30_____.096____Auto________30_____150______1.9_________.384
[Euston]______25_____.064____Auto________28_____150______1.6_________.32
[Rhett]_______32_____.096____Auto________25_____150______2___________.48
[Rokstedi]____54_____.256____Semi________15_____150______2.2_________.512
[FRKN-3K]_____30_____.096______X3________24_____150______2___________.384(?)

Heavy Machineguns
[Maximus]_____30_____.096____Auto________75_____200______4___________.384
[Chinzor]_____24_____.064____Auto_______100_____300______4___________.32
[Minigun]_____24_____.066____Auto_______200_____400______5___________.33

Revolvers
[Ritchie]_____80_____.325____Semi_________6______30______2.15________.325

Long Rifle
[Dragnov]_____80_____.3______Semi_________6______20______3___________.3
[Barnett]____125____2.25___Single_________4______20______4.5________2.25

Grenade Launcher
[Lobster]____110_____N/A___Single_________1______10______2.8________?
[EZ-Nade]_____75_____.48_____Auto_________6______18______5.4________?

Shotguns
[Mossington]__22_____.93_____Semi_________6______36_______.6________?
[Hjammerdeim]_16_____.256______x2_________8______36______2.25_______?

Updated TTKs! Forgot to exempt the first round fired from the equation!

*TTK based on Medium body (140 hp)
*TTK does not take into account accuracy, head shots, or leg shots, which would severely throw off the median TTK. Assumed all rounds hit the chest area.

(?)FRKN-3K: can't tell what the actual refire rate is between 3 rounds (or the time it takes to fire those 3 rounds.) Assume the FRKN-3K and the Rokstedi are very accurate (and whatever the multiplier for headshots, the Rokstedi will hit HARD)

Shotguns: without knowing the number of pellets, I can't really make an accurate guess on the potential maximum damage per shot. Grenade launchers I just won't even bother.

NOTE: Used Lucida Console font to keep things very orderly. Set up in notepad to see typed out in Lucida Console. This being a forum, you can only place one space before the forum ignores extras.

Just looking at the weapons, it seems SMG's and Rifles are fairly balanced as far as TTK, only rifles are probably overall more accurate than SMG's, and I imagine with slower firing rates, easier on ammo conservation. Likewise, SMG's come with more spare ammunition to compensate. Handguns seem to make for capable, if inferior weaponry compared to SMG's and rifles, but they DO come with a knife, making them good 1-2-punch weapons in close quarters.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:42 am

[censored] YES, IT'S A [censored]ING 3-SHOT-KILL! PERFECT!! OMG OMG OMG OMG SQUEEAAALL :wub:

Anyways, this pretty much confirms that the Rokstedi will be my favorite AR, possibly gun full-stop, in the whole game. It's about as close as I'll ever get to MAG or BC2's M14 EBR.

Semi-auto rifles have always been my thang :disguise:

You and me both. I know I'll be using the Rokstedi as my marksmen rifle over the light rifles now

.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:44 am

You and me both. I know I'll be using the Rokstedi as my marksmen rifle over the light rifles now

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I too was very excited to see a single shot rifle you can also add a rate of fire increase at least thats what the guide says but who knows it has many flaws lol. But it will bring me back to the CoD 4 days of the g3 back when i still considered call of duty a game.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:11 am

I too was very excited to see a single shot rifle you can also add a rate of fire increase at least thats what the guide says but who knows it has many flaws lol. But it will bring me back to the CoD 4 days of the g3 back when i still considered call of duty a game.

I'll probably still use it, but the mag size and ammo size is too small for my taste. The Rokstedi at least has a lot more ammo.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:35 am

If you have the guide can you also list out all the abilities?!

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:52 am

So the Chinzor fires faster than the Gottlung? That's a bit silly. And I imagine it dashes my hopes for the chinzor being a precise weapon.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:56 am

Anyone else thinnk that the FRKN-3K looks EPIC?

» Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:38 pm

Woo, Dragnov's insane. I was told the fire rate on that thing was a second, but .3 seconds? That's 240 damage in a little less than a second, and enough to incap everything that isn't Superman.

Totally using that with a Red Dot Sight.

@EASy88: Um, what's TTK?

» Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:34 pm

TTK = Time to kill

Basically, if you shoot as fast as possible, and all your shots land, thats how long it takes to make a medium player drop

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:37 pm

TTK = Time to kill

Basically, if you shoot as fast as possible, and all your shots land, thats how long it takes to make a medium player drop

Thank ye, and now that Dragnov's REALLY looking good. Shame on all the people saying it was useless. Shame.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:02 am

Thank ye, and now that Dragnov's REALLY looking good. Shame on all the people saying it was useless. Shame.

What we never got was number for stability. It might be capable of firing once every .3 seconds, but the kick back may completely throw off your aim :confused: Only time will tell though.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:21 am

What we never got was number for stability. It might be capable of firing once every .3 seconds, but the kick back may completely throw off your aim :confused: Only time will tell though.

So it might take longer at range, but double tapping a medium in the chest at close range seems like a useful skill to master, since "no-scoping" is actually possible to use reliably.

I put the term in quotes because you don't even have to put a scope on the gun if you don't want to.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:28 am

The ritchie does as much as the Drognav. Awesome.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:16 am

The ritchie does as much as the Drognav. Awesome.

Yeah, I just noticed that too, makes me think that the revolvers wont actually be as accurate as people are expecting, or maybe just take a long while to recover from each shot.

» Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:22 am

What we never got was number for stability. It might be capable of firing once every .3 seconds, but the kick back may completely throw off your aim :confused: Only time will tell though.

It's a play off a dragonov...the kick will be very light