Dragon Age: Origins & Awakening & DA2

Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:29 am

You said they were catering to casual, not hardcoe. And you most definitly made it sound like those kind of changes would just annoy hardcoe players. My point is that that is simply not true. Just because someone likes ME2 more than ME1 or other RPGs, doesnt mean their more causal. In my opinion they simply improved the game.


Dumbing down/watering down is again just your prespective, not a fact. Streamlining does not equal dumbing down.
And DA:O taking some pages out of the book of ME2 is nothing bad. Inventory management is definitly one thing they could improve a lot. The narrative can profit from them having a fixed main character. ME2 definitly offered more cinematic and engaging dialogues.
I love DA:O, one of my favourite RPGs ever, but I definitly think ME2 is overall the better game.

Again you're just saying as if they are only catering to "casuals"(whatever the [censored] that is, because people who play RPGs are rarely casual in my book). Another person can definitly say they are improving the game.
But we won't know one or the other for sure until the game is released anyways :)

Those changes do annoy hardcoe players, look at the DA2 forums, people are pissed, and what I said was my opinion, how you see it has no effect on what I said, I never said I spoke for all core players. Just because you see it that way dosent mean I did. And IMO they made the game more casula by removing rpg elements in favor for more fps or specifically gears of war elements, I expect DA2 combat will become like oblivion/fable and rely little on stats and limit customization, and streamlining isnt dumbing down, removing good content to make a game easier/more accessible is dumbing down.
Yes and in ME2 book inventory was reduced to a few guns... Yay/sarcasm
And while they can do more with a fixed character it limits replay valuse, red ead redemption shows this, a pre set character, very well done, but leaves little room for change.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:28 am

Why are people already discussing dumbing down and making the game total garbage again? The press release is out, and the only thing we know is that we'll have a human main character and that combat and story are supposed to be more "epic".
I'd like to remind you that Origins also was supposed to be like Baldur's Gate, just more epic and action-packed, and everyone was like "Oh, itz gonna be teh Diabloz and MMO thing!" Look how that turned out.
Just let it rest and wait for more facts instead of speculation, okay? Chillax, folks. ^_^
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:43 am

Why are people already discussing dumbing down and making the game total garbage again? The press release is out, and the only thing we know is that we'll have a human main character and that combat and story are supposed to be more "epic".
I'd like to remind you that Origins also was supposed to be like Baldur's Gate, just more epic and action-packed, and everyone was like "Oh, itz gonna be teh Diabloz and MMO thing!" Look how that turned out.
Just let it rest and wait for more facts instead of speculation, okay? Chillax, folks. ^_^

Yep. And also this was basically what I was saying a few posts earlier... which, *ahem*, seemed to have been overlooked. :stare: Don't snipe at each other about the interpretation of a press release.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:36 am

I was right. http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/09/five-facts-about-hawke-in-dragon-age-ii.aspx Minor spoilers for both DAO and DA2 ahoy.

1. Hawke will be a voiced character.
Unlike Dragon Age: Origins, the player's character in Dragon Age II will be fully voiced. This opens the door for a more cinematic approach to dialogue and creates an identity for the character outside of the text you see on-screen. It also eliminates those awkward scenarios where you feel like your character should be reacting, but instead just stares blankly without so much as a grunt.

Siiiigggghhhh. These actors had better be good.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:52 am

I was right. http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/09/five-facts-about-hawke-in-dragon-age-ii.aspx Minor spoilers for both DAO and DA2 ahoy.


Siiiigggghhhh. These actors had better be good.

Well it WAS awkward whenever my character punched someone silently :)

In any regards, perhaps someone can answer me this:
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Has there been any information how Morrigan ties into this sequel so far? I would've expected that the demon-dragon kiddo might play a role. And the artwork did appear to me like an old version of Morrigan. However of course there is one specific ending where your character dies along with the demon's soul(my favourite ending actually), is it possible that ending could end up being retconned?

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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:55 am

Just wanted to post that. I don't doubt BioWare's ability to choose great voice actors, so I can even live without being able to play as an elf if that means badass Shepard-style voices.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:28 am

Siiiigggghhhh. These actors had better be good.

I was never ever disappointed with the actors chosen by Bioware and Bioware's voice direction. I'd not worry about that, at all. ^_^
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If Hawke is really Fereldan, I want Jenny to again be the female counterpart of a Bioware hero. She can do a real nice Queen's English.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:54 am

I was never ever disappointed with the actors chosen by Bioware and Bioware's voice direction. I'd not worry about that, at all. ^_^

I'd love for Jennifer Hale to appear in this, she was fantastic as Bastile (and Samus and fem shep and Ophelia)...

EDIT: ah great minds think alike.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:19 am

I was never ever disappointed with the actors chosen by Bioware and Bioware's voice direction. I'd not worry about that, at all. ^_^

Well I would. I'm not a fan of Mark Meer's Shepard, for instance. And regardless of talent, the delivery of the voicework is going to grossly limit the type of characters I create. :(
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:45 am

Meh, the voice work on Bioware games has been hit or miss for me. Most noticeably ME2s Male Shepard, for me, sounded like it was tailored for the default male character, while the female voice could fit a variety of builds.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:17 am

This will not personally affect me because I always play as a human but I can understand that many other people would like to have the option to play as a different race.


Like the option? I would demand the option. What if I don't want to play some dood named Hawke? I can't call a game that doesn't even let me choose gender an RPG.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:37 am

Well I would. I'm not a fan of Mark Meer's Shepard, for instance. And regardless of talent, the delivery of the voicework is going to grossly limit the type of characters I create. :(

Meh, the voice work on Bioware games has been hit or miss for me. Most noticeably ME2s Male Shepard, for me, sounded like it was tailored for the default male character, while the female voice could fit a variety of builds.

Okay, those are legitimate complaints. Mark Meer tends to slip back to Canadian often and somehow this seems to put him into some stress when he keeps his voice as free of accents as possible. Problem here, the devs will likely not catch those small vibes themselves, for obvious reasons.
And yes, it really is a little hindering. But not impossible to do, aggressive renegade FemShep often seems a completely different person than her paragon identity. If they could get someone capable of doing this for each gender, and hopefully more than three types of basic reactions, it would not be bad at all. Still, we can only sit back and wait now. ^_^
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:29 pm

Like the option? I would demand the option. What if I don't want to play some dood named Hawke? I can't call a game that doesn't even let me choose gender an RPG.


You will be able to choose a gender in DA2.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:39 pm

Like the option? I would demand the option. What if I don't want to play some dood named Hawke? I can't call a game that doesn't even let me choose gender an RPG.

Well you'll be happy to hear then that there will also be a Lady Hawke

*slaps forehead* of course http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089457/... I found the first DA2 easter egg?
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:30 am

Like the option? I would demand the option. What if I don't want to play some dood named Hawke? I can't call a game that doesn't even let me choose gender an RPG.

You can be either a male or female Hawke.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:44 am

Well you'll be happy to hear then that there will also be a Lady Hawke

*slaps forehead* of course http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089457/... I found the first DA2 easter egg?

She shall be Lady Hawke the Slayeress.ERROR. 80S OVERLOAD.

We can even choose character classes, might even get different origins at the beginning of the ten years. The only restriction is that of race. And, as I wrote above, might be very reasonable to develop Ms or Mr Hawke.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:46 am

I was right. http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/09/five-facts-about-hawke-in-dragon-age-ii.aspx Minor spoilers for both DAO and DA2 ahoy.


Siiiigggghhhh. These actors had better be good.

Well, you were right after all. Oh well. They can only use Mark Meer to voice Sir Hawke the Champion and General Errand Boy of Ferelden if he somewhere gets to say the line "He's a big stupid jellyfish!" :rofl: I have to say Meer's voice grew on me as I played through as male shepard, but I totally agree with the criticism that his voice did not suit across different races.

I doubt they would use his voice or Jennifer Hale for the Lady Hawke... I think they are now way too closely identified with Shepard - at least among RPG gaming fans (who would be their target for DA2).

Also... :slap: to the first person who names their male character Ethan Hawke. Or Davis Wolfgang Hawke. Or... oh, whatever. Do what you want. :P
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:19 am

Also... :slap: to the first person who names their male character Ethan Hawke. Or Davis Wolfgang Hawke. Or... oh, whatever. Do what you want. :P


Is Mike Hawk okay?

Leydenne: Acceptable. :P
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:47 am

Is Mike Hawk okay?

Mike Hawk is fine. :P
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:13 am

Is Mike Hawk okay?

Leydenne: Acceptable. :P

:rofl: I hate you. :P
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:41 am

So... apparently
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we will be seeing Flemeth at some point.
Thoughts on the lady with the dragon hand in the concept art?

The combat will remain almost the same on the PC, being changed for the consoles to fit the controller scheme better.
They're implementing the ME conversation wheel, with a little icon in the middle indicating the nature of the reply. There will be NO morality system (like the renegade and paragon paths in ME).
Hawke's adventures happened in the past and are being retold in the present.
We will be seeing events that happened in DA: O from a different perspective (because the game begins during the Blight).
We'll get to see consequences of our actions from Origins during the decade span of DA2, because we will be able to import save files.

http://images.play.com/banners/content/15784432%20Large.jpg

I apologize if this has already been mentioned.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:55 pm

I wonder if Hawke could be Morrigan's son, meaning that he would have dragon blood in effect. (If I understood DA:O correctly, the Old Gods were dragons.)

If so, we're getting into Elder Scrolls/Septim territory. :)
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:00 am

I wonder if Hawke could be Morrigan's son


If the story begins during the Blight, and he was fleeing Lothering before it was destroyed, then this is not possible.
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Post » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:59 pm

If the story begins during the Blight, and he was fleeing Lothering before it was destroyed, then this is not possible.


Fair enough. I think they're missing a bet by not using Morrigan's child, though.
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Post » Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:17 am

Fair enough. I think they're missing a bet by not using Morrigan's child, though.


Just read on BioWare's forums that the devs confirmed he is not her child.
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