hmm.. so, it cannot be removed when the game is uninstalled? It did say 2008. How do we know that issue hasn't been resolved?

I'll be honest; this game is no DA:O. However, its enjoyable and I am a fan so far. I gave DA:O an 8.75/10 and I would give this an 8.125/10 so far. I'll give it a fair rating once I've beaten it, but this is my rating so far.

So you admit it's a decline in quality. Maybe for some people, Bioware's games have been declining for years and they've borne it quietly. Then DA2 happened, and they broke. What if some suits at EA sees the bad press DA2 is getting in comparison to DA:O and tells Bio to streamline it even more? How far will you go until you realize that the reviewers are lying to you and Bioware has made a crummy game? Honestly, I can wait until the game industry shifts more and more towards this. Then you'll be the one screaming about how the game svcks and doesn't compare to previous titles. This has happened before. To the people who enjoyed Baldur's Gate and DA:O and then couldn't take DA2. Do you think you're special? You're not.

Ah well, Risen 2 looks promising. Pirate ships!

Was there really a point to this? I never said I was special.

Mass effect 1/2 were great. I loved them both and can't wait to play the third one. Good story and all that. The story in DA2 is alright so far, but not great.

And yeah the reviews are lying. I have never trusted a game review in my life. The gaming industry, as I said before, is a business, people will do anything for a good rating. But the thing is, most people didn't give DA2 a great rating, just a decent one. And thats what it deserves so far from what I've played. I think people bash on BW way too much. They are a business, and they are pretty damn good at marketing their goods. And to me, only a few BioWare games have come up short. I really don't care if you disagree with me, its my opinion.

Actually if you check the reviewers there's about.. a 10% decrease in score roughly. Assuming it's based on a 100% score. Origins averaged 94% or so I believe. Just look at the wiki, it's pretty evident on both the xbox and PC this game just hasn't been received as well as its predecessor.

Yep. Even company reviews such as GI and Gamespot weren't very great.

Not to say its bad, still a AAA title with lots of backing, but just not AS good as its predecessor. I don't care for it because of how inconsistent all of the games, DLC, and the expansion have been. What's the point of even creating an elaborate world like that? If they wanted to go the final fantasy route I would have no problem with that, but they have to make that clear.

I would like a sort of TES route with a BW spin on it, but thats not going to happen with DA or anything else from BW anytime soon. Too linear despite the side quests.

I'm enjoying DA2 so far (only about 5 hours in). I do feel that the RPG aspects have been dumbed down quite a bit, though, and that makes me sad. It worked well for Mass Effect 2, but I really feel that some of the RPG systems, character customization, equipment, and combat have been over-simplified. It's fun, but I'm not enjoying it as much as DA:O so far.

I'm enjoying the game, not as good as the first, but I don't thing it deserves the lashings that many fans are giving it. It may not be a true RPG, but it is still an entertaining game in its own right.

I really question them calling the game Dragon Age 2. It feels much more like a spin off of the original, similar enough to be part of the franchise, yet different enough not to be considered a real sequel.

On a side note: What rogue specialization are people finding to be the most useful?

People arent just ignoring it, thats what bothers me, some guy tried to argue it was my fault the exiled prince dlc exists becuase I didnt buy it new. How would that change anything ?
And others are like "its optional" or "well you didnt pre order your fault". What BS, and BW are imo worse, activision pumps out yearly CoD, but look at BW.

ME2
Removal of companion armour = dlc
Less weapons = dlc
Removal of veichle = dlc
Day one dlc = Zaeed.
Important plot poits that should be covered in game = dlc Arrival (reapers show up) and LoTSB should have been in game.

Then they "streamlined lots of content, making it less of an rpg, but thats not the point of this. They are imo much worse, activision may churn out games, but damn atleast its a full (even if shallow) game. BW just give you some then have the rest as dlc. And they constantly move away and alienate fans, ME2 became more of a shooter, and DA2 became more of an action game, instead of building off the old fanbase/game they change it to try and get the bigger market. Bungie may make fps games lots of people dont like and will claim they milk halo, but damnit you cant deny they are good to their fans.


I am kinda looking past the anders thing, since I found out the flemmith reason

And that proves that the events of DAO were under a year...

... Ok, reasons are...


This is my issue, I like an action rpg, and I liked origins. But mixing the 2 ruins both. In the demo I found it played too fast, and the fact the AI was just idiotic made it worse, I would do something then move to another character then have to manage a different one becuase they had gotton themselves in trouble, because of the speed, I quickly notice my rogue is taking on an ogre, I control them, then the ogre goes for bethany, it was basically me babysitting them, and avelines taunt did NOTHING to get the damn things attention. The game cant be action, it needs tactics, its harder to be tactical becuase of bad AI and its too fast. And when I wasnt using her aveline stood still not even attacking, this game needs to be patched, and they need to really rethink the next DA game.


They missed a few things out when adressing the public, like how the console version has no auto attack.

Also the game is bad because it took the ME2 approach to the ending,

Oh man this is GREAT. After I post about whats wrong with BW I see this

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.269881-Bioware-blocks-user-from-playing-his-store-bought-copy-of-DA2-for-bad-mouthing-EA

Still think activision is worse ?

Now I regret ever purchasing the game off eBay, with all the bashing *plays Daft Punk to drown out sorrows*

The combat really is quite cartoony. I took some screenshots of the over-the-top rogue leap that they do every time they engage an enemy that is more than a few feet away. Made me realize how ridiculous it is. BUT IT'S SO FUN TO WATCH.
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/7851/dragonage22011031018222.png
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-11-dragon-age-3-there-are-always-ideas

From an IGN interview:




source: http://music.ign.com/articles/115/1154594p1.html

Sp its mainly EA's fault for such an incomplete release. Figures.

They did that a little in DA:O. If you're doing the Sacred Ashes quest and watch your map in the caves, the dragonlings appear behind and in front of your party from thin air. But it was never multiple waves of enemies.

I loved Jade Empire. I still play it. I can't see why they took the animations from JE and thought it would be great to reuse them in Dragon Age, though. Different worlds; from first game to the second, its too much of a change/contrast, for me.

So content from mass effect 1/2, origins and jade empire all rolled nto one rushed game.
If I was BW I would tell EA to back off, otherwise games wont make a profit at all.
Activision bought bungie but it was for 5 years, is BW permanently EA ? Or is there a timed contract so we can hopefully see them make good games again ?

EA actually makes me like M$, M$ were with BW when ME1 was made, M$ jsut supplied cash and didnt seem to rush, EA fail.

I cant edit my post, so Bioware defends DA2
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-10-biowares-mike-laidlaw-a-defence-of-dragon-age-ii-interview

The interveiwer should ask about rushing. ANd then he sys references that make sense, flemmeth didnt, Anders didnt, fail.

And believe me, I wasn't thrilled about it in DA:O, either. I was fine with it for certain enemies: Darkspawn were established by lore for appearing out of nowhere, deepstalkers appeared out of the ground and spiders came down from the ceiling. However, it's overused in DA2 to the point of making battles repetitive and tedious. And Bioware doesn't even attempt to hide the blatant popping-in.

Personal opinion. Every bit as valid as the opinions of people who don't like the game and think DA:O is better.

Once again i do not see what is so very wrong in a game. Different, still fun to play and has story which has quite a bit of potential. I'm currently suferring form restartitis; i haven't seen it further than the Deep Roads, so my opinion may change yet.

My only problems with DA2:

Auto-Attack left out accidentally for consoles.

Save Importer is broken until patched.

Lore change and end story changes from DA:O as pointed out by Talaran earlier.

Yes, those are unfortunate events that could've been avoided altogether. I missed them because i play on PC, have no saves to import and have Awakening, but have never played it trough. I postponed in hopes they'd patch it up some, but i don't think that ever happened? Might as well play it one of these days with the Orlesian warden and a bug-avoidal guide.

When the first lackluster screenshots, info and March release date were revealed, the writing was pretty much on the wall about DA2 being rushed out. March is conveniently just before the end of the fiscal year in April.

Those NWN1-quality NPCs people spotted are especially cringeworthy. "Visually super hot" indeed.