Dragon Age: Origins, Awakening & DA2

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:00 am

Im thinking of buying the first one, since i have never played. is it worth buying?


Yes it's worth it and if you can, try to find the Ultimate Edition. It may cost a bit more then the regular copy but it gives you access to the DLC without having to waste extra resources.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:33 am

If you can overlook the filler combat, poor encounter design, and not-so-stellar combat mechanics, the storyline is solid and there are a couple of good choice and consequence moments

Thank you, you reminded me of why I traded it in
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:03 am

Ha, if that's what you think of DA:O I'm guessing you didn't buy DA2. :)

Actually I'd suggest playing nightmare to make the battles a little more dramatic, but I'll agree there is a good amount of filler combat.


I didn't hate DA:O; I'm being generous to it by not complaining about the character making system. I held my tongue because it's in-depth compared to DA2. Still, Dragon Age is one of the reasons I decided to play through the BG trilogy, so it couldn't have been that bad. The problem with that is that now I can see its flaws (same thing happened with Fallout).

DA2 is a whole different thing altogether. And no, I don't intend to play it as any point in the future.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:35 am

Ok, Im sorry but I think you guys are putting way to much emphasis onto the dialogue from DA:O. The dialogue in DA:O was the same in every other Bio Ware game. Up = good, Middle = neutral, down = bad. That is the same thing as in DA2 it just gives you a color coded view now.

Actually, even into my third play through, I was getting some different dialogue options, based on my character doing different things. DAO had character dialogue - a lot of it, the VO script alone must;ve been enormous. DA2, they reduced it, and thus flattened the characters, so that you aren't actually that interested in them. I've had my female hawk bed Fenris - who was an emo jerk, and then Anders... who is annoying as well. And it;s all just a shrug - there's no charm in the dialogue, no depth, very very limited humor. The one character they gave some depth to is Varric - and he has been in my party the entire game. Partly because he's the only character I like (and I like him better than Hawke) and partly because Bianca is badass.

A lot of love, care and detail went into the writing of most of the characters and their stories and their dialogue - even Shale was awesome, with less dialogue than the others . And thought the story was traditional fantasy stuff -as are most fantasy games (including Bethesda games, including BG... :) ) it was still nicely done. DA2... not much love went into the characters. :shrug:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:12 am

Has anyone played the cash grab of Dragon age Legends?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:58 am

So I played DA:O and loved it. Finished at 60 hours. I played the demo for DA2 and enjoyed it but I'm really worried about what I saw as far as the characters are concerned. Also very disheartening that I have to play as Hawke?

So really my question is..should I get this game? I love great stories, legendary loot, epic journies, and 50+ hour playthroughs. Am I going to find any of that in DA2?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:57 am

So I played DA:O and loved it. Finished at 60 hours. I played the demo for DA2 and enjoyed it but I'm really worried about what I saw as far as the characters are concerned. Also very disheartening that I have to play as Hawke?

So really my question is..should I get this game? I love great stories, legendary loot, epic journies, and 50+ hour playthroughs. Am I going to find any of that in DA2?


I'd wait for it to drop in price. I got it at full price and I don't regret it but it's not nearly as interesting as DA:O. Plus the worst thing is they reuse lairs a lot.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:32 pm

So I played DA:O and loved it. Finished at 60 hours. I played the demo for DA2 and enjoyed it but I'm really worried about what I saw as far as the characters are concerned. Also very disheartening that I have to play as Hawke?

So really my question is..should I get this game? I love great stories, legendary loot, epic journies, and 50+ hour playthroughs. Am I going to find any of that in DA2?


If you're a rabid fan, get it. More of a spin off than a true sequel in IMO. I like them both, but don't find DA2 as compelling.

If you're patient and playing other titles, I'd just wait. There's likely gonna be a boatload of DLC and you'll save $ waiting for the "complete" edition.

I guess you could plug my last comment into any newly released game, lol.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:27 pm

If you're a rabid fan, get it. More of a spin off than a true sequel in IMO. I like them both, but don't find DA2 as compelling.

If you're patient and playing other titles, I'd just wait. There's likely gonna be a boatload of DLC and you'll save $ waiting for the "complete" edition.

I guess you could plug my last comment into any newly released game, lol.

I just started Two Worlds 2, so I'll wait for the complete/ultimate edition like you suggested. I kind of just stumbled upon DA:O because I was craving an rpg and I saw it cheap at gamestop. 60 hours later I was glad I stumbled upon it haha! So I've been curious about DA2 but I've seen so much negativity towards it and how BioWare has basically become victim of EA. Sad stuff indeed.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:47 pm

Ha, if that's what you think of DA:O I'm guessing you didn't buy DA2. :)

Actually I'd suggest playing nightmare to make the battles a little more dramatic, but I'll agree there is a good amount of filler combat.

Flemmeth on casul kicked my as inn 30 seconds once, mainly becuase I spawn then get hit b a fireball, then breathed fire. Knocking out Wynne m healer, leliana my archer, alister died seconds later leaving my rogue (DW) to fight alone, went well till I got picked up and chewed and died... Need more constituation, allthough I love my high dex makes me hard to hit, its at 55 now.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:54 pm

Is Awakening worth it? Ive heard great and horrible review for it, what Im wondering is it worth $50 for DA:O all-inclusive pack? How much of the game transfers over to DA2?

Yes Awakening is worth it. $50 dollars for Origins and Awakening is a steal. I paid $60 for Origns and $30 for Awakening, so $50 for both is a great deal. The horrible reviews for it compare it to the main game which is a silly thing to do since this is a expansion and is ment to extend the story which it does pretty well. The main thing with it seems to be the lack of interesting party members from Origins. The world from Origins is imported to DA2, the choices you make show up in the game. For example if you
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make Alistar king he will be king in this game
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:33 am

So I played DA:O and loved it. Finished at 60 hours. I played the demo for DA2 and enjoyed it but I'm really worried about what I saw as far as the characters are concerned. Also very disheartening that I have to play as Hawke?

So really my question is..should I get this game? I love great stories, legendary loot, epic journies, and 50+ hour playthroughs. Am I going to find any of that in DA2?


Wait for a patch to come out and the price of the game to come down. It's not a bad game but Bioware did rush it, It pales in comparasion to what Origins was, and there's a bunch of bugs in the game. Some aren't that bad but others can be a problem like the one with Isabella that lowers your attack speed. Also the console doesn't have auto attack yet so if you like mashing the A button it's not bad but it gets old after a while. I finished DA2 in 36 hours and I did pretty much everything. I could've probably added 2 to 3 hours in Act 3 but I wanted to finish the story.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:07 am

Just finished a playthrough of DA2, im quite dissapointed with it, It has its perks in parts, but it felt like a chore, lacks the feel and scale of the first game.
It reminds me of one of those films, where you will wait it out just hopeing that it will get better.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:39 am

it felt like a chore

I think that's the best description of the game I've heard so far :thumbsup:
Especially those pointless sidequests that you turn in to random anonymous NPC's you've never seen before...
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:15 am

That's how i would describe Origins nowadays :hehe: I did play it for over 500 hours though :blush:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:57 am

I think that's the best description of the game I've heard so far :thumbsup:


Funny, I would have said the exact same thing about Origins. :thumbsup:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:50 am

So I just beat it early this morning. I am, intrigued. Very foreshadowing.

Also:

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Keep talking to Sandal. At one point he says something like "When he rises from the ground the magic will come back and everything will be ok." Heavily paraphrased of course. I think Bioware pulled an Eno Romari here.

Also, at the end, leliana closes that book the seeker had been looking in. The cover of the book has the Chantrys' seal on it. In the pages of the book when the Seeker is interrogating Varric you see that weird symbol in it that you see everywhere in Kirkwall and you see the portraits of your party members. I think it is a book of prophecy.

Leliana: Where is the champion?

Seeker: Gone. Disappeared, just like the Warden.

Leliana: So it wasn't just coincidence.

I think something BIG is about to happen.

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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:16 pm

ME3 could have CoD elements becuase they are interested in the audience, also they were looking for MP devs, + ME2 being made into a tps, allows for gears style MP, and its the end, after the reapers what will youi do ?
Also its EA now, they added MP to deadspace, which seemed even less likely than ME2.


I dont mind people swearing in certain games, but for me it could take away from the atmosphere in games if they are set in medieval fantasy worlds.

Combat I dont like, becuase its spamming A until powers recharge, not exactly fun.

Is it really? On PC you just click or hit Tab to choose who to attack then Hawke handles the rest for you, with youa ctivating abilities when you need to. Still, I hear many are saying that the combat is more engaging on console, you need to get involved in it rather than sit back and watch it all happen, i can see where both sides are coming from but I'm going to have to side with the former.

On an entirely different note, I'm getting a bit tired of seeing "EA is responsible for everything I don't like". It's simply not true, BioWare knows what they are doing, or rather what they want to do, they are responsible for these decisions wether you like it or not, demonizing EA to make BioWare seem like the innocent underdog serves no purpose beyond lying to yourself.

It's exactly like the Activision vs. Blizzard issue, there is no Activision vs. Blizzard, they are the same company. You can't separate them and blame AV for all the bad decisions and praise Blizzard for all the good ones, they are one and the same.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:40 am

Is it really? On PC you just click or hit Tab to choose who to attack then Hawke handles the rest for you, with youa ctivating abilities when you need to. Still, I hear many are saying that the combat is more engaging on console, you need to get involved in it rather than sit back and watch it all happen, i can see where both sides are coming from but I'm going to have to side with the former.



Bioware accidentally left out auto-attack on the console versions. There was a miscommunication: The devs said the files were there when they weren't. They didn't discovered this after production of the discs had already started.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:46 am

Just finished a playthrough of DA2, im quite dissapointed with it, It has its perks in parts, but it felt like a chore, lacks the feel and scale of the first game.
It reminds me of one of those films, where you will wait it out just hopeing that it will get better.


I'm 82 hrs in on my first playthrough (in Act 2 on Nightmare) and I'm still very much enjoying it, but one gripe I have is that I think the smaller fetch quests were executed poorly.

What happens is you find some random object in a treasure chest and suddenly a quest "Dwarven Tapestry" is automatically added to your journal "Hmm, this tapestry seems like something a dwarf would like, etc."

You collect a bunch of these as you go about completing various side quests and when you visit Lowtown for example, one of the numerous quest markers ends up being some dwarf looking for a tapestry, and by the time you find the guy, you don't even remember the original object.

So when you click on some random NPC, you receive some silver and the guy says "Thank you, I thought this was lost forever!" That's only time you read about these quests, retroactively to find out what the heck he paid you for.

Would it have been that much more difficult for the dev team to at least have you find the dwarf first in the city and have him tell you to look out for his lost tapestry, etc.? It would feel like a real fetch quest.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:36 am

I'm 82 hrs in on my first playthrough (in Act 2 on Nightmare) and I'm still very much enjoying it, but one gripe I have is that I think the smaller fetch quests were executed poorly.

What happens is you find some random object in a treasure chest and suddenly a quest "Dwarven Tapestry" is automatically added to your journal "Hmm, this tapestry seems like something a dwarf would like, etc."

You collect a bunch of these as you go about completing various side quests and when you visit Lowtown for example, one of the numerous quest markers ends up being some dwarf looking for a tapestry, and by the time you find the guy, you don't even remember the original object.

So when you click on some random NPC, you receive some silver and the guy says "Thank you, I thought this was lost forever!" That's only time you read about these quests, retroactively to find out what the heck he paid you for.

Would it have been that much more difficult for the dev team to at least have you find the dwarf first in the city and have him tell you to look out for his lost tapestry, etc.? It would feel like a real fetch quest.

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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:56 pm

Okay, so I got DA2 and it came with the Black Emporium dlc, but I have no idea how to install it? A little help here, please?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:09 pm

If you have Steam, you have to copy the CD key for the bonus item (click on copy to clipboard on the CD key dialogue box that starts when the game launches),

then go to social.bioware.com and log in,

click on Profile -> redeem Promo Code

once you enter it you should be on a screen with a bunch of items, if not, go to Your Registered Game Content,

Scroll down to Black Emporium -> More Info - PC (if you are on PC) and that will be the link to download and install the Black Emporium

Then in game there will be a location on the Kirkwall map called " The Black Emporium"
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:58 am

So I just beat it early this morning. I am, intrigued. Very foreshadowing.

Also:

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Keep talking to Sandal. At one point he says something like "When he rises from the ground the magic will come back and everything will be ok." Heavily paraphrased of course. I think Bioware pulled an Eno Romari here.

Also, at the end, leliana closes that book the seeker had been looking in. The cover of the book has the Chantrys' seal on it. In the pages of the book when the Seeker is interrogating Varric you see that weird symbol in it that you see everywhere in Kirkwall and you see the portraits of your party members. I think it is a book of prophecy.

Leliana: Where is the champion?

Seeker: Gone. Disappeared, just like the Warden.

Leliana: So it wasn't just coincidence.

I think something BIG is about to happen.


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Morrigan is in the book too, also I assume its shale (golem with birds). He is the old god, who is a boy, but bring magic back... Hmm a new Tivinter style era ? Or maybe bringing back the maker. But the second thing would mean old gods/potential arch demons = maker... Hmm interesting


Is it really? On PC you just click or hit Tab to choose who to attack then Hawke handles the rest for you, with youa ctivating abilities when you need to. Still, I hear many are saying that the combat is more engaging on console, you need to get involved in it rather than sit back and watch it all happen, i can see where both sides are coming from but I'm going to have to side with the former.

On an entirely different note, I'm getting a bit tired of seeing "EA is responsible for everything I don't like". It's simply not true, BioWare knows what they are doing, or rather what they want to do, they are responsible for these decisions wether you like it or not, demonizing EA to make BioWare seem like the innocent underdog serves no purpose beyond lying to yourself.

It's exactly like the Activision vs. Blizzard issue, there is no Activision vs. Blizzard, they are the same company. You can't separate them and blame AV for all the bad decisions and praise Blizzard for all the good ones, they are one and the same.

Console has no auto attack.

I have no issue with the EA blame, EA is bad, BW made good games, then EA took over, now bad. " and 2 together and EA is the problem.

BW isnt immune, they made terrible choices, nodoubt but EA makes things worse by rushing to get money.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:07 pm

Thanks, I got as far as using my promo code, but didn't get sent to the download prompt. Got it now. I really wish they would make it simpler, like Bethesda does.

So, I'm noticing that, on top of being as boring as the last time, combat is pretty unbalanced. I get destroyed in fights using sword&board that I easily clear with a two-hander. Or maybe I'm just doing it wrong. Any tips for a shield user?
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