Discuss the Dragon Age Series here.

I agree. Dragon Age 2 in my eyes has completely destroyed Bioware's credibility. They always had the reputation in the past as the great RPG makers, now they've created the reputation of a money-hungry pawn of EA with no concern for the consumer. Launch Day DLC, rushed games, "press a button and something awesome happens"; this is what Bioware had become now, a company focused solely on profit thanks to EA. I understand full why Brent Knowles left.

I'm truly worried about what Mass Effect 3 will be like. I definetly wont be preordering it, and I wont be getting excited by Dragon Age 3, which if recent events are anything to judge by, will be released in January 2012 and contain a single room that you wander around in the wholoe game.

I like this game more and more, still doesn't compare to DAO but the quest and companions are interesting.

122 hours and still going strong. Money well spent from my POV. Though i doubt i'll get the 517 hours i got from Origins :hehe: Nor the over 1000 hours i've gotten from Oblivion :blush:

People, when you think the thread is going close to the "close" point, would you please use the report button? I'll close the other thread, but it isn't at the limit yet.

Well said, this is exactly what I am thinking.

It's sad to see such a great company succumb to greed and trade in what made them great in the first place for a full wallet.

Yep, I'm done with BioWare after ME3, if that even sounds good enough to get. I find DA2 extremely borring, and I don't feel like finishing act 3. If they want to follow that same direction, then I won't support them.

Well they are a business so of course they want to make money. Of course, i saw DA2 as a way to capitalize on origins success much like black ops is to mw2. It svcks but oh well. buy used and buy cheap .

I agree totally, I'm getting ME 3 regardless because I want to see how Shepard's story ends but I'm definitely am going to wait for reviews from other gamers and gaming sites before I get another Bioware game.

This is kinda funny

http://vividgamer.com/2011/03/14/bioware-employee-caught-reviewing-dragon-age-ii/

I heard about that I guess Bioware is really desperate for those high ratings.

Wow. Just wow! How far will Bioware sink. I think I'll fire up BG2 and reminisce about the good ole days when Bioware was you know...good.

Ladies and Gentlemen, http://vividgamer.com/2011/03/25/highlighting-feature-in-human-revolution-could-be-optional/ is how an intelligent development studio deals with player feedback and criticism, by listening to them, not shoving your fingers in your ears and banning everyone.

Applause to Eidos. Bioware should take a page from their book. To bad as long as EA has it's claws dug into Bioware I assume they'll be putting out quite a few substandard games.

Ha! I love it! "Im done with BW!" "They no longer make good games!" "Oh but Ill still buy ME3" ha!. Give it a couple years and you guys will be clamoring for DA3. Hell, they got the same backlash when ME2 came out and look at everyone now. Flash some pretty graphics and the promise of "your choices in the last game matter in this one we promise" and people will soak it up.

It's the same everytime a sequel is released, nothing special about this "outrage". On that note, my condolences in advance to the moderators having to deal with the Skyrim post-release [censored]storm.

I said I wouldn't buy Dragon Age 2, and I didn't. Hell, I haven't even played it when I had the chance. So while rare, there are some stick to their guns kind of guys out there who mean it when they say they won't buy it. Though I'm only an individual.

Buy the full version when they bundle all that dlc into one, then wait for it to go cheep and used, BW dont get any money for the cashgrab, you get the full game.


I said I wont get DA2 I havent got it, and as for ME3, not getting that either, unless they show they have changed it so its an rpg (not getting into it) again, even then I could just wait and get it pre owned months after release if I reallly wanted to see how it turned out. It would be cheeper too and, it wont be hard to ignore spoilers, my interests will be on skyrim, not ME3.


Anyway question about uninstalling dlc, if I uninstall wardens kep would it still carry over (story wise) or would every trace of it be gone in my awakenings character ?

Is there any way to get Morrigan into your tent playing a female ?

Not without mods.

OK thanks time to search for that mod then.

Cant find one on Nexus

Depends on the person.

From NWN on, a Bioware pc game was an automatic order for me. I wasn't happy when EA bought them out, and wasn't terribly surprised when one of the first announcements was "ME is no longer 360 exclusive, its coming to pc." I pre-ordered it, since it was made before EA got involved. Then the announcement about the "EA phone home every 5 to 10 days or your legally purchased game shuts down" drm, and I canceled my pre-order. I didn't buy the game until much, much later, it was on holiday sale on steam, without the drm. I did pre-order DA:O, due to the fact that the game was made for pc and, for all intents and purposes, finished long before EA got involved. Not too much they could do to screw it up, and due to the backlash they got from the "EA phone home" drm, that was changed. Of course, it was held back for 6 months while they finished the console versions, but they couldn't mess up the game. I didn't pre-order Awakening, and wasn't terribly happy with it. They had started mucking around with the dialogue, and had a much smaller word budget, which led to the random item conversation triggers and not talking to your party in "camp". After the information they released about what they changed in DA2, I decided to not buy the game. I played it; my brother bought it. He lost interest in it and is very unlikely to buy DA3 [he doesn't play pc games, or many games at all, actually, so he didn't get Origins]. If they continue what they've done with DA2 into 3, I won't be getting it. About the only reason I will consider ME3 is to finish Shepard's story; but even that is iffy considering the changes between part1 and 2.

I don't recall a backlash like this; outrage from people who bought a 360 to play ME when it was a 360 exclusive after the "coming to pc announcement", people upset with the "let's wear spandex or straps in a hostile environment" can't change your companion's armor, the retcon to attempt to explain why there is an "ammo" type function now that was really sloppily done, and the mining game, but nothing like this.

People were pissed when Bioware released ME2 for PS3 though, that was mainly becuase they had all the free content, aswell as the ability to quickly make a new save, didnt like a chocie in ME1 I would have to replay it all.
And I dont care what people say aboutthe next thing but ME3 will never have deep concequences, purely becuase they want it as astandalone game, yet again catering to those who didnt play it, and punishing the fans who support them.

IMO its funny becuase ME to ME2 was a greater change than DA to DA2, but most people are pissed becuase this was a throwback to older rpgs, then BW went and changed it.

I think BW will [censored] up a few years down the line, lots of people will buy ME3 just to finish sheps story, they want a tps they will buy one that does it better (gears), so after ME3 they already loose fans, I expect their money sink mmo to fail against WoW like many others, and then your left with ME spinnofs and dragon aga, which is a franchise already divided, and Biowares actions on the forums and attitude towards the fans is justmaking more people leave. And they are still under EA, which means it will only get worse.

Brent Knowles had the right idea to get of the sinking ship.
On the brightside if BW went under I think they could reassemble some of the devs ad make a new EA free company, maybe then games will be good, but BW is dying imo, and wont last much longer before EA kills it.

That pretty much is my only reason for getting ME3 is to finish Sheps story and I don't see Bioware spinning off unless Ray and Greg Relinquish their positions in EA. Even then I don't see Bioware surviving unless they goes back to square one and make an RPG that the fans want and not something that will get you a profit in the short term but will screw you over long term.

I can't say I speak for everyone, but I enjoyed ME2 because it was actually fun to play. DAO was fun in a different way. When I started hearing about DA2, I realized that they were getting rid of the parts of DAO that I enjoyed, and replacing them with nothing to fix the awful encounter design or combat system.

It's not that ME to ME2 is a bigger change, so people complaining about DAO to DA2 change a hypocrites, but that ME2 was fun, and DA2 isn't. The "cut out useless crap" approach worked for ME, but it didn't work for DA, where my primary enjoyment of the game came from the relatively complex mechanics.