Watch it.

Funny... It is rare that you show up in one of the many interesting and serious threads about lore which pop up daily/every second day/weekly (it depends on your standards) but when a person makes a slightly not very political correct post in a thread (which isnt really about the Elder Scrolls Lore but actually about the Dragon Age Lore, therefore making it fit more in the Dragon Age forums?) you immediately (perhaps not immediately but still) jumps forward to give a warning to that person...

Oh snap, burn?

Nope nevermind.

*cough* pokemon........

Stop equivocating. I know it isn't as precise, but if you try and cover all of your bases by creating exceptions to your arguments before you finish making your argument, you are sabotaging the point you're trying to make. I know that sometimes I can be guilty of this as well, but I try not to.

Anyways, I didn't really see the original connection between Alessia and Lincoln Christ of Arc, primarily because Alessia was a rebellious figure who was also a slave and then (tacitly) proceeded to wipe out her enslavers entirely. Whereas Andraste was more of an outsider who came to overthrow the Tevinter and freed the slaves to gather allies. In other words, Andraste was clearly more pragmatic and I feel she would've stopped short of Genocide while Alessia didn't.

Superficially, I can see where the OP is coming from. But then again, superficially Chrono Trigger looks like Back to the Future, especially the first Chapter.

One thing that Oblivion does that reminds me of another series is the bandits "Fall on my sword while you still can" and BG series Minsc: " fall on my sword evil, I won't be so gentle".

Merchants I have the lowest prices in all of cyrodiil, BG merchants: I have the lowest prices...

True they are not 100% the same, but just goes to show that with a little knowledge you can find all manner of similarities.

I think you're giving the originality of some Elder Scrolls lore waaaay too much credit. Sure, Tamriel breaks many classic tropes and turns them on their heads but the influence of earlier fantasy fiction is extremely obvious, especially in earlier games. It's impossible for the fantasy genre not to be influenced by anything. Fantasy is contrived. Your challenge as a fantasy writer isn't to tell a new story. It's to repackage an old one in an interesting way that tricks people into thinking it's something new.

Good game. I enjoy them.

Coming-of-age stories are my favorite. I'm still a kid at heart.

Let's not disrespect MK, though; he is one of the few developers to post on the Elder Scrolls forums. If he doesn't post more often, maybe it's because many of the most knowledgeable of the loremasters (Solin, Allerleirauh, and others) moved on from the forums years ago. The Lore forum isn't what it once was.

I don't think MK's feelings were hurt...

Bethesda should sue lol. I could tell from the second I saw that first post that TES was ripped off.

I could care less about the knuckleheaded thread topic. But dissing Jesus isn't cool.

That is true. Diss the christians or [insertreligionhere] who are intolerant, crazy, stupid, narroweyed and fanatic. But Jesus was a good guy who was trying to teach people good stuff. Nothing wrong with him.

Right first in DAO it was Elves then one day Men appeared, no one ruled anyone, but then elves isolated themselves because when in close proximity to men, they lost thier immortality. Men didnt like this, and then worshiped the old gods, who gave them blood magic, the tivinter imperium (first empire iirc) these guys then enslave the elves, then Andraste who was a barbarian was noticed by the Maker, so she started up the chant, then she led a rebelion with the elves and was betrayed by her husband, then died, she didnt become one/divine she just went to thier version of heaven/paradise and was a martyr. Similar yes, rip off no. Basically I could say TES ripped of Tolkien just leave out the differences.


Sorry but I see nothing catholic influenced in TloTR or the hobbit.


You really should play more dragon age then, its not ripping off and if you want to do what the OP did, then TLoTR should sue bethesda, because everything is the same if dumbed down enough.


Ghandi. I agree with him.

http://www.americanidea.org/handouts/06240110.htm

And it's impossible to escape the influence, since he was a passionate and contemplative Catholic.

1) Christmas gets a namecheck in The Hobbit.

2) Gollum's fall into the pit with the Ring during his dance, with our heroes able to do nothing is decidedly Christian. Note that I am speaking of the cinematic version where a struggle was seemingly required. Tolkien's meaning here is clear: mortals are unable to defeat the devices of the Devil without the Grace of God.

That's enough RL religion here.

I enjoyed Dragon Age (two play throughs, if that counts) for what it was. Its thefts were many, but I see none of it from Elder Scrolls. If anything, they owe the Tolkien Estate money.

The Chantry was an interesting concept; the inability to actually pronounce "magi" maddening. And the overwrought armor is just one more dumb sign of overwrought armor as being something the man-kids need.

Oh, and "The Taint"? Really? Every time I heard it said solemnly I laughed like a juvenile.

I'm looking for The Taint, have you seen it?

Amen to that.

Regarding the topic, I don't really see it. I mean, of course there is similarity and it is noticeable, but there are way more similarities between Dragon Age and NWN 2, though they are from the same developers.

On the other hand Oblivion and Morrowind are from the same developers, yet it seems like Oblivion was made by Rockstars and Morrowind was made by a team who knows their [censored]. their RPG [censored], that is.

Try reading the Simarilion. The cosmology of Tolkien's books are basically an attempt to marry Christian theology with the old polytheistic religions: a single omnipotent creator, his first creations that play the dual roles of being both the higher choirs of angels and a pantheon of gods of finite power (one of which, of course, rebels and becomes the big bad of the setting), a lesser order of angelic spirit beings (which include Gandalf), and then regular mortals.

The history of Middle Earth is basically the war against the rebel fallen angel and his demonic minions.

Hahaha The Taint. Not sure if that went over the devs heads or if they were trying to be funny.

I don't see why the slang term has to have more power than the legitimate term, though. What else could the developers have called it?

The Tainted? Nah. Its not so bad. Just the first few times you hear it.

I don't get it. Please explain.

You'll have to check the Internet. It's an anatomical reference.
(Not being snarky here.)

ok. Yeah, I did some research.