Has anyone else here played Dragon Age, I think it completely copies the story of Alessia, tell me what you think.

" Eons ago, there were a group of Elven Magi/Order (Ayleid) that controlled everything and used perverted magic and made slaves of men. They used these slaves for entrainment/ perverse things. Until a slave woman named Andraste (Alessia) led a slave revolt with the aid of the Maker (Akatosh) and became divine/ one with the Maker in her death. She basically sets up the first human empire and religion and starts the worship of the Maker (Aedra/Akatosh).

The only divergence seems to be that she was killed in the process of bringing down the Magi Order, and did not survive to live as Empress.

Uhhhhmmm....

I didn't know Jesus led a military campaign, or was a slave, or BECAME divine. That dude was the lamest messiah in history.

:facepalm:

Moses.

Although he technically wasn't a slave, but whatever. Led all the slaves to freedom.

He kinda was/is divine... lol. but anyways, ontopic:

I haven't played Dragon Age yet, but all my friends say it's good, so I'm hoping to get it for Christmas, and if not I'll rent it. But from what you've said, it does sound a lot alike Alessia's tale. But it's probably coincidence, not like bioware was playing Oblivion, read that book, and thought "Dude... I'm going to make this into a game!" which is why their now working for Bethesda on Fallout New Vegas, it was a deal so Beth wouldn't sue them for copyright infrigment! I mispelled something... I know it...

^ That's a joke btw, but however, it is a sound conspiracy theory... I seem to have a talent

Dragon Age's Dwarves are also called "Dweomer"...

Simpsons did it.

South Park reference?

Yep

Dweomer is an Old English word meaning "witchcraft", and it is derived from the Old Norse term, "dvergmál", which refers to the dwarves (dvergr) secret knowledge of magic.

It's a pretty generic term.

Did this backstory first appear in Dragon Age Origins? Just curious.

You could say ideas are rehased alot in rpg's, take rats for one, Azura / mystara seem like twins in game content to me. Dwarves, high elves, dark elves, wood elves, orcs.
"Magic resistence", the dae in daemonic / daedra, hell I lived near to a place called thirsk which was full of of drunk northen men.
So you you will find many "coincedences" in lore and games, just as you will find in movies, tv, and books. due to the fact that people have tended to have said everything allready.

I'd challenge you to find any high fantasy setting that is completely original.

The campaign structure itself in Dragon Age shared a lot of direct similarities with Neverwinter Nights 2.

And Kotor. They seem really fond of making you go to the four corners, complete the objectives, and then the endgame. They're also really fond of the "should be more experienced guy who doesn't do the leading and let's you run the show."

The following plot points can sum up both NWN2 and DA:

You start out the game by having to leave your home village, pretty standard for any RPG.

Then you head into a swamp, and then into some ruins to fetch an ancient item.

At the same time, a strange woman is stalking you, she later reveals herself and joins your party

At one point in the game(s) you will be falsely accused of a crime, culminating in a big courtroom scene where allies will vouch for your innocence, depending on wether you helped them through quests.

Oh yeah... and early on in both games you will be stopped by highwaymen on your way to a town, demanding that you pay the toll. You can fight them or scare them off.

A less interesting version happens on Manaan, twice, in Kotor. And Allistair is a childish Carth Onasi.

No one pays attention to TES lore, anyway.

Leaving home is the standard beginning for most stories. Or at least learning the universe isn't innocent, and your life before leaving was childhood.

False accusations remind me of Jesus, and Jesus reminds me of messiah, so it may be messianic to be falsely accused and endure the establishment's wrath.

I've played Dragon Age:Origins, and (as someone else once pointed out, to give the credit where it belongs) Andraste is also similar to Joan of Arc, including her death at the stake.

I like how DA is grittier than the standard fantasy tropes; elves are second-class citizens who live in walled medieval ghettos ("alienages") or who are nomadic; dwarves have a rigorous class-system and don't talk in Scots accents (even "The Witcher" did this with its English version of the game, though I don't know what the dwarven accent was in the original Polish version).

I could never figure out that part, until I realized that my lawyer was incompetent, like all Selkath. I hate the Selkath.

Anyways, I think that it is just a coincidence. Fantasy tends to repeat itself, just like science fiction.

ha, scots-polish? The Witcher's going mainstream. It's lost a sum of my interest.


No, it's not coincidence. These are common stories, written by similar people.

Obsidian is making Fallout: New Vegas.

I wasn't the first one to notice this, but Greg Keyes' series "The Kingdoms of Thorn and Bone" starts off with the mage-queen Virginia Dare freeing humanity from slavery at the hands of a demonic race, in a role very similar to Alessia. I don't see this as ripping off Bethesda somehow; I wonder if this was how Keyes first got noticed by Bethesda, though, and chosen to write the novelization "The Infernal City".

Small correction, in Dragon Age it's a group of human magi that used perverted magic and made slaves of elves.

Oh yeah, and Andraste wasn't a slave, but a barbarian queen.

Carry on.

There's also a few Warcraft similarities. Orzimmar/Orgrimmar, for example.

Not to mention Loghain's elven guerilla army, the Night Elves.

But who cares. It's a fun game, and besides, every fantasy setting borrows something from other settings. If you have elves, dwarves and orcs, it's pretty much impossible to not be inspired by Tolkien, in some small way.

And Tolkien was heavily inspired by early Anglo-Saxon literature and Norse Sagas, as well as Catholic theology.